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The Missing Link: Lost & Found (Official Discussion)
May 13, 2015
6:21 pm
The Notorious, L.T.B.
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AP world history my nigga

History international caused me to ace my AP world history AP exam. They used to actually show informative shows on the history channels. All I remember is that the Moors (Muslims) occupied (at least part) of Spain from 711 til 1492.

Yep, spanish as a language is still heavily infused with arabic influence as a result

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May 13, 2015
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JiffyLong said
I’m not liking my history class right now, because we have to do amendments, and I can’t remember that fuckin’ shit. 

But, we do get to choose a topic from the 70’s to present day to present. The teacher said if it’s a band, they have to not be performing anymore. I chose Esham. 

Do they mean someone relevant to the 70s [ie, Led Zeppelin] or just born in the 70s?

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May 13, 2015
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JiffyLong said
I’m not liking my history class right now, because we have to do amendments, and I can’t remember that fuckin’ shit. 

But, we do get to choose a topic from the 70’s to present day to present. The teacher said if it’s a band, they have to not be performing anymore. I chose Esham. 

Do they mean someone relevant to the 70s [ie, Led Zeppelin] or just born in the 70s?

It’s anything from the 70’s to present day. I told her, she looked him up, and said it was alright. 

 

Edit: Last time, it was 1800’s to 60’s, I did The Elephant Man. 

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May 13, 2015
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JiffyLong said

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JiffyLong said
I’m not liking my history class right now, because we have to do amendments, and I can’t remember that fuckin’ shit. 

But, we do get to choose a topic from the 70’s to present day to present. The teacher said if it’s a band, they have to not be performing anymore. I chose Esham. 

Do they mean someone relevant to the 70s [ie, Led Zeppelin] or just born in the 70s?

It’s anything from the 70’s to present day. I told her, she looked him up, and said it was alright. 

 

Edit: Last time, it was 1800’s to 60’s, I did The Elephant Man. 

Are you doing a powerpoint?  You should have the cover for KKKill the Fetus on the title slide.  lol

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May 13, 2015
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Yeah, the Keynote app on the iPads, my cover is a picture of a banner style picture of Boomin’ (I did think about the Kkkill the Fetus though lol). 

But, now, I can’t go to school for three days. I have to go to the alternative school (an old freshman school they use for career tech shit, and the alt school). A sub saw me smoking an e cig vape pen or whatever the fuck with some other dudes, so I got fuckin’ suspended. 

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JiffyLong said
Yeah, the Keynote app on the iPads, my cover is a picture of a banner style picture of Boomin’ (I did think about the Kkkill the Fetus though lol). 

But, now, I can’t go to school for three days. I have to go to the alternative school (an old freshman school they use for career tech shit, and the alt school). A sub saw me smoking an e cig vape pen or whatever the fuck with some other dudes, so I got fuckin’ suspended. 

That’s pretty lame.  Last quarter I had a power point class and I was tempted to do a presentation on Mayhem from Norway.  I’m sure some of you can guess where I’m going with that.  

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May 13, 2015
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jerks flyin swastikas and, to an ever so slightly lesser extant, rebel flags, know damn well that people dont like it, and thats exactly why the fuck theyre doin it.  the end. 

Actually, the rebel flag came way before your average idiot cried like a bitch when they saw one. Perhaps they enjoy waving it a little more knowing it pisses off pussies but they’d be waving it regardless of you or anyone else who disagrees with it. 

Also, the confederate flag doesn’t symbolize slavery at all. Not even a little.. smh

How can so many people be so sure and be so wrong? 

The 13 stars on the flag represent the 13 original colonies of the US. They were self governing until the north decided to fuck with them. That was the cause of the war, no whether they get to keep their slaves or not. By the fucking way, the north had slaves as well and so did the Union army generals.

I know it sounds harsh but modern perception of that war suggests that blacks were part of the main focus. They weren’t! In fact, Lincoln wanted to ship their asses back to Africa originally. Take mercy, yes. Be their neighbors? Hell no. Truth is the war was about control and money. The slaves were definitely low on the list of priorities.

May 13, 2015
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Cheshyr said
Not quite.

Answer to first part: Yes. Yes they do. Sucks it worked out that way but yes.

Answer to second part: Improper appeal. The confederate and Nazi flags were used by ACTUAL groups that ACTUALLY committed historical atrocities and ACTUALLY used those flags as the hallmarks of the ideals that motivated them. The two flags were ACTUALLY intended to remind people of those ideals.

The kind of associations that get levied against Juggalos and the Hatchman are not actually based on anything nearly so representative of FACTS surrounding the opinions about them as are the other two. The Hatchetman is the symbol of a band that gets maligned like it’s a fad. Hardly the same thing. One was used to create fear and the other has fear projected upon it.

 

I KNOW!

How about we get flag defenders all a pair of magic glasses so they can read the super secret writing that gets printed into the fibers of every confederate/rebel flag with a special ink that ONLY minorities can see, so they’ll finally be able to read the race coded message on every flag that sez: “I Hate N***rs!” (fill in your own favorite minority)?!

People hate on the Hatchetman because they don’t know any better; and people hate on the confederate flag because they do.

Not true, at all. The Manji was created as something completely different. The Manji came first and represented peace and eternity. People just decide to focus on the negative with out learning where the symbol comes from. Just like with juggalos. There are juggalos that do gang activity claiming that juggalos are a gang. A lot of them are stupid meth heads. Trust me, I know this, I’ve seen tons of juggalos act just how people stereotype them. Way more than you let on. This forum is one of the rare places where majority of the juggalos are intelligent sober (almost) folk that tend to not claim to bang juggalo. I have literally heard multiple people claim that they ‘bang juggalo’. So there is a basis, much bigger than you are probably willing to acknowledge, for the stereotypes and ideals society staples to the hatchet man. Thing is, people take it all at face value and prefer not to actually look deeper and learn stuff. Thus the Manji, a still very widely used symbol in various different religions will be mistaken as a Swaztika (despite the differences I already pointed out) and juggalos will always be known as degenerate meth heads. It’s exactly the same.

 

Now, the confederate flag is pro slavery, no matter what bullshit gets spat out to defend it, it represented slavery.

May 13, 2015
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The emancipation proclamation was ‘t even about black rights, it was an entirely unsuccessful attempt at hurting the confederate economy. And if there’s anything the post civil-war years proved it’s definitely that 600,000 white men didn’t die so that black people could be their equals. The facts remain unchanged; however, that if the union hadn’t won slavery would probably still be around in some form. I also don’t agree with the “poor south dindoo nuffin til them mean ol yankees fucked everything up” rhetoric either. The south were openly defying the federal government just cus they could, shit congressmen were beating the fuck out of each other during sessions lol…and whether you like to acknowledge it or not the political climate of the north was rapidly pushing for abolishion and the slave dependant south was flipping shit over that. That’s what drove the hostilities leading up to the war. I’ve also never met a rebel flag waving hick that wasn’t obscenly racist and damn proud of it either.

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May 13, 2015
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The Notorious, L.T.B. said
 The facts remain unchanged; however, that if the union hadn’t won slavery would probably still be around in some form. 

It is in the form of non violent felons in for profit prisons.  Now its not the same as snatching people out of their homes per say…but lets just say if you drop drugs in the ghettos and then build office furniture with the resulting mandatory minimum sentences you give teens you catch that you gave the drugs to in the first place…Then its totally cool right? 

Don’t mind me ill be over here in the corner with my tin foil hat and my ferrets…

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May 14, 2015
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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 14, 2015
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Dope

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The Notorious, L.T.B. said
The emancipation proclamation was ‘t even about black rights, it was an entirely unsuccessful attempt at hurting the confederate economy. And if there’s anything the post civil-war years proved it’s definitely that 600,000 white men didn’t die so that black people could be their equals. The facts remain unchanged; however, that if the union hadn’t won slavery would probably still be around in some form. I also don’t agree with the “poor south dindoo nuffin til them mean ol yankees fucked everything up” rhetoric either. The south were openly defying the federal government just cus they could, shit congressmen were beating the fuck out of each other during sessions lol…and whether you like to acknowledge it or not the political climate of the north was rapidly pushing for abolishion and the slave dependant south was flipping shit over that. That’s what drove the hostilities leading up to the war. I’ve also never met a rebel flag waving hick that wasn’t obscenly racist and damn proud of it either.

Thank you. To deny the wickedness behind the symbolism is to be a robot. There is hate at the roots.

May 15, 2015
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…and the “Explosions” video is decent but there’s enough there to comment on for a while.

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May 15, 2015
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@cheshyr that video was amazing!! why did i have to sit though a year of U.S. history when i could have just watched that?

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Cheshyr said

 

 

…and the “Explosions” video is decent but there’s enough there to comment on for a while.

Michael moore is a fat piece of shit and that video gave me an aneurysm 

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May 15, 2015
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think the south park guys did that.  or one of em, anyway.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 15, 2015
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The Notorious, L.T.B. said
The emancipation proclamation was ‘t even about black rights, it was an entirely unsuccessful attempt at hurting the confederate economy. And if there’s anything the post civil-war years proved it’s definitely that 600,000 white men didn’t die so that black people could be their equals. The facts remain unchanged; however, that if the union hadn’t won slavery would probably still be around in some form. I also don’t agree with the “poor south dindoo nuffin til them mean ol yankees fucked everything up” rhetoric either. The south were openly defying the federal government just cus they could, shit congressmen were beating the fuck out of each other during sessions lol…and whether you like to acknowledge it or not the political climate of the north was rapidly pushing for abolishion and the slave dependant south was flipping shit over that. That’s what drove the hostilities leading up to the war. I’ve also never met a rebel flag waving hick that wasn’t obscenly racist and damn proud of it either.

It’s almost as if history isn’t as cut and dry as people think and there were complicated reasons behind everything! Also, I’m re there are tons of people that say “I’ve never met a Juggalo who isn’t a restarted druggie and damn proud of it. There was a Juggalo on the greyhound who had a picture on his Facebook with a rebel flag with a hatchetman in the middle.

There are a lot of countries that emancipated slavery without a civil war.

Honestly I don’t really think SLAVERY in and of itself was as damaging as the RACISM behind the slavery. If it had been more of a “we were more powerful than you so we are forcing you to work for us” there wouldn’t have been AS MUCH dehumanizations as there was with the racist ideas that certain humans are lesser than others, which was a justification.

Black people had it worse during Jim Crow than during slavery.

May 15, 2015
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First, Michael Moore isn’t even IN that video.

Second, he had nothing to do with the creation of that cartoon; only including it in his documentary.

Thirdly, there’s nothing in the toon that isn’t factual.

Lastly, you want some historical perspective? Here: 1925

http://www.google.com/search?h…..13.0.msedr…0…1c.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.13.1983.2.MT8fwvanjCE

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Pigg said  
Black people had it worse during Jim Crow than during slavery.    

please tell me you dont really believe that.   

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

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