So Buddhists have to live with the fact that their Manji is now a sign of bigotry and hatred because that’s the way people see it.

Just like Juggalos have to live with the fact that the Hatchet Man is a sign of mental retardation and gang affiliation because that’s the way people see it.

Makes sense to me.

yall still bitching about a flag? im from tha south and I don’t give a shit. if it pisses you off, look the other way. or do what ICP does: fight hate with hate. that usually works.

@cheshyr , some of the replies here are my argument as well. It’s not just the south that has a history of slavery. It’s all of America yet some people tend to pretend that isn’t the case. More to your point though, if the rebel flag, today, was viewed as what it really is/was; a symbol of a young countries complications, bigotry, rebellion, state rights, anti-industrialism, the right to protest your government,  etc. etc. (the list really does go on and on) maybe you’d have to actually think about the subject of American history instead of treating it like its “cut and dry” because it’s really, really not. It’s a complicated, bloody, dirty, history wherein both sides were kind of in the wrong, both sides were kind of in the right, both sides had valid points and both sides used their valid points as an excuse to go too far. Like I told you before, I highly recommend doing a little reading up on the subject. It’s rather fascinating once you stop pretending its an us vs them situation. No, I’m not being esoteric, you’re just being ignorant. I say that while acknowledging the difference between ignorant and stupid btw. It sounded harsh so I feel I need to clarify. You’re painting a picture of a supreme villain that no evidence agrees with except your feel bads.  

I’m not going to give a defense of your second wave “flag defenders” shit because you’ve already used “flag defenders” once and made snooty comments, I replied to you about it, giving my reasons why you were wrong (at least in my case), you ignored that and did the same damned thing over again so you keep fighting that strawman to “prove” your point. I’ll ignore it and address you specifically. 

You’re absolutely right that that flag represents bigotry right NOW but I would add to some. Your view doesn’t equal everyone’s view. You know that right? Just because that’s how you see it doesn’t mean that’s how everyone see’s it. Same with me. I don’t see it as purely a symbol of slavery and hate, some people do. And you have every right to disagree with me and I the same and blah, blah, blah, we’re both equals and such things. We’re on the same page there so no reason to cover that BUT that doesn’t mean I can’t throw my two cents out there to try and change your mind. Even if everyone agrees that the rebel flag represents pure hate, I would still argue it. Not that that isn’t what people think but that they shouldn’t think it. Which is what I’m doing and will continue to do every time the rebel flag comes up as the epitome of evil.  

I know I’m arguing in defense of the asswipes. It’s not that I really want to, I’m sure someone can do it much better than me because I honestly don’t give a shit, it’s just another flag to me. The part I do give a shit about is when that thing (insert whatever it is because I end up in similar discussions a lot) is being wrongfully represented. I completely get that the rebel flag isn’t a thing that most people like and I completely get why that is but I think that the arguments against it tend to become so simplified and the flag itself gets so bastardized that you end up removing any actual discussion that there is to be had there. When you boil it down to “us vs them”, the only argument you have to make is “them”. Never been a fan of that, no matter who it’s done to. 

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forgot to respond to your point. Sorry n shit. 

the point is, the vast majority of jerkoffs under the rebel flag are, in fact, jerkoffs.  fuck them and their justifications.

Agree completely with the underlined.

Completely disagree with the bold. It doesn’t matter who you are, a good argument is a good argument. Just because they’re assholes doesn’t mean they don’t have good points sometimes. Unless I misunderstand your point. 

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Yeah, in regards to Pigg mentioning the Redskins… I’d rather be called a “redskin” than a fucking Indian.  Fuck Columbus.  

 I always feel like a dick correcting people on the “indian” thing but man, how fucking terrible is that name? 

“he’s nothing but an old dead fuck with a compass. Ran up on a beach and threw everybody off then he claimed discovery and now we all applaud” They summed it up beautifully. 

And the crazier thing still is if it hadn’t been hin, it would have been somebody. And if the colombian exchange hadn’t gone down the world as we know it wouldn’t exist.

I’m not liking my history class right now, because we have to do amendments, and I can’t remember that fuckin’ shit. 

But, we do get to choose a topic from the 70’s to present day to present. The teacher said if it’s a band, they have to not be performing anymore. I chose Esham.