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The Missing Link: Lost & Found (Official Discussion)
February 16, 2015
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I’m so excited for this card! I really hope that they make some kind of preorder bundle because this will be my first time pre ordering an album. Fuck why cant it be April already?

Oh also, who peeped the Juggalo Show last Thursday? J said this is a serious non comedic type album. I really cant wait.

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February 16, 2015
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Only pre order is a 3D cover of the album

February 16, 2015
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Wonder if they are dropping a video before the release date. Seeing as its a jokers card they might throw a few surprises our way. Maybe thats what the 3:24 reference is.

February 16, 2015
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It’s the time that Violent J required Monoxide to make him a post lunch, pre dinner PB&J sandwich.

 

Now that Mono doesn’t have to do that there is beef. Beef being put on the sandwich when Otis makes it because he doesn’t understand that J wanted PEANUT BUTTER AND FUCKING JELLY.

 

It’s all Twiztid’s fault, in Joe’s eyes.

February 16, 2015
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No, Twiztid loves juggalos. Violent J only aloud them to come if Monoxide makes his famous 3:24 PB&J for him. Ever tried an Otis sandwich? They suck. Well, they don’t suck, but he never gets it right. Peanut Butter and Jelly requires no beef between the bread. J always tells him that he is the silver metal, and will never live up to Twiztid.

 

There you have it, a perfect explanation. It’s a sandwich deal, J gets to keep his sandwich and Twiztid stays on good terms with the juggalos. There might even be a hand drawn diagram on how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for Otis somewhere in there.

 

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Also, check out this concert footage if Twiztid playing with ICP blow up dolls Eminem style that definitely is not photoshopped.

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Apparently, they are going with “The Marvelous Missing Link” instead of just The Missing Link. that’s what it says anyways on the hatchetgear pre order

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February 16, 2015
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Then I just realized. 3:24

 

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I just pre-ordered mine!

It’s gotta be done! With both Twiztid and ICP having brand new releases out before The Gathering, you GOTTA have time to know that shit beforehand so the theme of this year’s event makes sense.

I may not be thrilled with the (Lost) cover picture but I wanna get that shit way ahead of time so that I know what’s up when they finally hit the stage. Not like they won’t do some old favorites but you KNOW they’re gonna be playing that new shit (both groups).

An’ hey, with them doing a Juggalo Auction, the first ninja to bring the hologram CD up for bids may get their money back cuz it’ll be hot in the years to come!

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Speculation time:

It is my belief that juggalos have an open enough mind, giving them vision to see the occult. That which is hidden in plain sight. To see depth in simplicity. Find meaning in obscurity.

THE (MARVELOUS) MISSING LINK

First off, let’s break down each word of the card. (Excluding the)

Marvelous

adjective

Causing great wonder; extraordinary.

Extremely good or pleasing; splendid.

Ex:      “marvelous technological toys”

“You have done a marvelous job”

SYNONYMS: amazing, astounding, astonishing, awesome, breathtaking, sensational, remarkable, spectacular, stupendous, staggering, stunning, excellent, splendid, wonderful, magnificent, superb, glorious, sublime, lovely, delightful, too good to be true

  • From this definition the ‘Missing Link’ is to be regarded as something of great wonder, but something that will be positive in the end.

Missing

adjective

(Of a thing) not able to be found because it is not in its expected place.

Not present or included when expected or supposed to be.

(Of a person) absent from a place, especially home, and of unknown whereabouts.

Ex:      “A quantity of cash has gone missing”

“Passion was an element that had been missing from her life for too long”

SYNONYMS:

Lost, mislaid, misplaced, absent, gone (astray), gone AWOL, unaccounted for, absent, not present, lacking, wanting

  • Missing, implies that this wonderful/positive ‘Link’ is currently not within your life, or where it should be in the world

Link

Noun (as a person, place, thing)

A relationship between two things or situations, especially where one thing affects the other.

A social or professional connection between people or organizations.

Something that enables communication between people.

A ring or loop in a chain.

Ex:      “investigating a link between pollution and forest decline”

“The links between transport and the environment”

“He retained strong links with the media”

“Sign language interpreters represent a vital link between the deaf and hearing communities”

“A chain of steel links”

“The evidence linking him with the murder”

SYNONYMS:

Connection, relationship, association, linkage, tie-up, bond, tie, attachment, connection, relationship, association, affiliation

Verb (As an action)

Make, form, or suggest a connection with or between. Associate, connect, relate, join, bracket. A means of contact, travel, or transport between two points or places.

  • Link, in this regard, could mean that this wonderful/positive connection, relationship, or understanding, is currently not within your life, or where it should be in the world.

Holistically “MISSING LINK”

noun

A thing that is needed in order to complete a series, provide continuity, or gain complete knowledge. ßThis joker card series has been, unclear right? Well MAYBE… this is that link?

A hypothetical fossil form intermediate between two living forms, especially between humans and apes. ßMIRACLES!! Jk, this could be interpreted as, the missing link may show humankind what’s missing to bring us to our next evolutionary state. I mean that in a societal, ideological, philosophical, kind of way. Not like biology.

——-

Now that that bullshit is out of the way (By bullshit I mean common knowledge) let’s dive into what this card could be about. The only other piece of information besides the imagery, release date, and Violent J’s summary, is the quote given to us on Hallowicked’s unveiling. “What goes around, comes around”.

Proverb

What goes around comes around

  1. The status eventually returns to its original value after completing some sort of cycle.

For the ICP, this means that the magick (the influence) of their subculture/status/’religion’/philosophy — AKA The Dark Carnival – will be returning to its original value. Perhaps it is this ‘magick’ everyone claims to feel is MISSING, or lost. Also note the proverb implies a cycle of some sort. Like the Original six, the third joker’s card is when the ‘Dark Carnival’ began to form its ideologies and gain a more public audience. Whether or not juggalos are aware, ICP has been making more noise than ever, maybe not financially, maybe not “musically, maybe not even with a following, but their awareness relating to the world’s mind is far beyond what it was, considering technology today, and how many years they have been at it.

  1. A person’s actions, whether good or bad, will often have consequences for that person.

For Juggalos, it may mean that wherever you are in your life, whether you are ‘lost’ now, or ‘found’ now. One might expect this to change. The cycle continues. This doesn’t imply if you’re doing well good things are coming, nor does it imply if you’re doing bad, bad things are coming, as well as vice versa. A Joker’s card is a self-reflection of a sort. Much like tarot, art/symbols reveal aspects of the subconscious mind, and potentially the unconscious collective. Where is your karma bringing you in this cycle of renewal? What will be lost, what will be found? Natural concept of Life/Death. Energy.

Other notes:

  • In ‘hippie’/Occult philosophy “What goes around, comes around”, is an idea that implies that there is balance in all action. This is similar to the concept of Karma.
  • If one loses something, one will find something to take its place.
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@cryptic_the_clown 

So VERY much: TL;DR

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February 20, 2015
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ICP is cool. New Joker Card is gonna be neat. MCL!

February 20, 2015
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cRyPtiC_tHe_CLoWn said
(That long thesis on the meaning of the next joker card.)

Those are some of good thought out ideas. cheers_gif

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February 20, 2015
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cRyPtiC_tHe_CLoWn said
Speculation time:

It is my belief that juggalos have an open enough mind, giving them vision to see the occult. That which is hidden in plain sight. To see depth in simplicity. Find meaning in obscurity.

THE (MARVELOUS) MISSING LINK

First off, let’s break down each word of the card. (Excluding the)

Marvelous

adjective

Causing great wonder; extraordinary.

Extremely good or pleasing; splendid.

Ex:      “marvelous technological toys”

“You have done a marvelous job”

SYNONYMS: amazing, astounding, astonishing, awesome, breathtaking, sensational, remarkable, spectacular, stupendous, staggering, stunning, excellent, splendid, wonderful, magnificent, superb, glorious, sublime, lovely, delightful, too good to be true

    • From this definition the ‘Missing Link’ is to be regarded as something of great wonder, but something that will be positive in the end.

    Missing

    adjective

    (Of a thing) not able to be found because it is not in its expected place.

    Not present or included when expected or supposed to be.

    (Of a person) absent from a place, especially home, and of unknown whereabouts.

    Ex:      “A quantity of cash has gone missing”

    “Passion was an element that had been missing from her life for too long”

    SYNONYMS:

    Lost, mislaid, misplaced, absent, gone (astray), gone AWOL, unaccounted for, absent, not present, lacking, wanting

      • Missing, implies that this wonderful/positive ‘Link’ is currently not within your life, or where it should be in the world

      Link

      Noun (as a person, place, thing)

      A relationship between two things or situations, especially where one thing affects the other.

      A social or professional connection between people or organizations.

      Something that enables communication between people.

      A ring or loop in a chain.

      Ex:      “investigating a link between pollution and forest decline”

      “The links between transport and the environment”

      “He retained strong links with the media”

      “Sign language interpreters represent a vital link between the deaf and hearing communities”

      “A chain of steel links”

      “The evidence linking him with the murder”

      SYNONYMS:

      Connection, relationship, association, linkage, tie-up, bond, tie, attachment, connection, relationship, association, affiliation

      Verb (As an action)

      Make, form, or suggest a connection with or between. Associate, connect, relate, join, bracket. A means of contact, travel, or transport between two points or places.

        • Link, in this regard, could mean that this wonderful/positive connection, relationship, or understanding, is currently not within your life, or where it should be in the world.

        Holistically “MISSING LINK”

        noun

        A thing that is needed in order to complete a series, provide continuity, or gain complete knowledge. ßThis joker card series has been, unclear right? Well MAYBE… this is that link?

        A hypothetical fossil form intermediate between two living forms, especially between humans and apes. ßMIRACLES!! Jk, this could be interpreted as, the missing link may show humankind what’s missing to bring us to our next evolutionary state. I mean that in a societal, ideological, philosophical, kind of way. Not like biology.

        ——-

        Now that that bullshit is out of the way (By bullshit I mean common knowledge) let’s dive into what this card could be about. The only other piece of information besides the imagery, release date, and Violent J’s summary, is the quote given to us on Hallowicked’s unveiling. “What goes around, comes around”.

        Proverb

        What goes around comes around

          1. The status eventually returns to its original value after completing some sort of cycle.

          For the ICP, this means that the magick (the influence) of their subculture/status/’religion’/philosophy — AKA The Dark Carnival – will be returning to its original value. Perhaps it is this ‘magick’ everyone claims to feel is MISSING, or lost. Also note the proverb implies a cycle of some sort. Like the Original six, the third joker’s card is when the ‘Dark Carnival’ began to form its ideologies and gain a more public audience. Whether or not juggalos are aware, ICP has been making more noise than ever, maybe not financially, maybe not “musically, maybe not even with a following, but their awareness relating to the world’s mind is far beyond what it was, considering technology today, and how many years they have been at it.

            1. A person’s actions, whether good or bad, will often have consequences for that person.

            For Juggalos, it may mean that wherever you are in your life, whether you are ‘lost’ now, or ‘found’ now. One might expect this to change. The cycle continues. This doesn’t imply if you’re doing well good things are coming, nor does it imply if you’re doing bad, bad things are coming, as well as vice versa. A Joker’s card is a self-reflection of a sort. Much like tarot, art/symbols reveal aspects of the subconscious mind, and potentially the unconscious collective. Where is your karma bringing you in this cycle of renewal? What will be lost, what will be found? Natural concept of Life/Death. Energy.

            Other notes:

              • In ‘hippie’/Occult philosophy “What goes around, comes around”, is an idea that implies that there is balance in all action. This is similar to the concept of Karma.
                • If one loses something, one will find something to take its place.

                J has already said that the concept is going to be that the link is that thing that makes you happy or whole as a person. It’s sort of like self actualization. So, the first album is a person who is missing their link. They’ve got a disruption in their psyche. In the second album, it’ll be “found”. 

                This is going to be a lot like the Shangri La and hells pit albums, I think. It’s clear heaven and hell on those albums is here on earth and in life. we make our own heaven or hell. They say that the music will be a lot darker on the LOST, with a faster, more erratic sound. It’s going to be really interesting, I think. They’ve been more clean and crisp lately so it’ll be nice to watch them unload a bit. Then the found will be the flipside. What’s it like to be a juggalo who has found their link? what is life like when you’ve got your mental health in check, etc. Trying to help the family (and themselves) grow a bit and see the good things in life.

                 

                February 20, 2015
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                Whutuptho said
                Wonder if they are dropping a video before the release date. Seeing as its a jokers card they might throw a few surprises our way. Maybe thats what the 3:24 reference is.

                I haven’t been keeping up with the forums and such lately so maybe I’m in the dark but what 3:24 reference are we talking about?

                February 20, 2015
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                song on house of wax.  

                  

                  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

                February 21, 2015
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                Am I the only who absolutely hates that they started calling it “the marvelous” missing link? the fuck?! I cant stand that. The missing link worked just fine.

                February 21, 2015
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                So violent J explains what the meaning of the missing link on the Juggalo show.

                February 21, 2015
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                YakkAttack said
                Am I the only who absolutely hates that they started calling it “the marvelous” missing link? the fuck?! I cant stand that. The missing link worked just fine.

                Yes you are, and you should probably kill yourself for not having a true connection with the rest of humanity.

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                Lucem (Just An Asshole) Ferre said

                YakkAttack said
                Am I the only who absolutely hates that they started calling it “the marvelous” missing link? the fuck?! I cant stand that. The missing link worked just fine.

                Yes you are, and you should probably kill yourself for not having a true connection with the rest of humanity.

                what are you… scruffys little brother or something? lol

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