6:19 am
March 8, 2014
Whoooooooooooa there, nelly.
Krunk, Pigg, I think you guys are entirely misunderstanding me. Either that or I forgot a vital sentence or some shit.
Summarized, my point was basically that a woman who dresses “slutty” is more likely to attract the type of guy who won’t take no for an answer. In no way do I absolve the guy of blame, nor do I shift any blame to the woman – all I was saying is that, in some cases, the woman could have prevented it by not putting herself in that position in the first place. If a fan gets trampled to death at a concert, it’s not their fault, but they could have prevented it by not putting themself in that position. Same argument can be made for countless other examples.
As to my point about the animal brain taking over, yadda yadda, I think I allowed myself to go a bit off-tangent in that sentence. I maintain there’s some truth to it, but in no way do I intend to excuse the act of rape, for any reason, nor did I mean to invoke the “boys will be boys” defense. My apologies if I offended either of you, or anybody else.
All I was trying to get at was… Be responsible for your appearance, whether you’re a dude or a chick. Like it or not, how your portray yourself and how others perceive you will affect you – it’s your choices that determine whether it’s in a negative or positive manner. It’s not fair, but that’s society for you.
6:40 am
March 20, 2013
CellE2057 said
Novocaine, The Elusive said
Fuck an atheist.
I don’t feel like going through all the pages …..
So basically, its all been covered. Still, fuck an atheist, fuck a theist, fuck a buddhist and fuck your mother too
i think that nearly everyone here is taking shit completely out of context. we are not condoning. we are pointing out that is a woman dresses like a whore, some people are gonig to treat her like one. is it her fault? not quite, but niether is she entirely blameless. don’t turn it back and say we are siding with a rapist because we give you reality.
Same with the fat guy theory, most people will go oh he is fat, must be lazy and unhealthy. its just not true, but people are geared to think that way.
Pigg said
King Lucem Ferre said
What if the woman starts rubbing her vagina against my penis? Like, she tells me no but still rubs her bare vagina against my raging erection, is she asking for it then?How often does this happen to you?
youd be suprised how often this happened during my teenage years hahaha, oh my poor raging erection. MY answer, yes she is asking for it. but that is still no cause to rape her. but if someone did, no sympathy.
All i’m saying is if you dress like a thug, don’t be surprised when a STRANGER starts to profile you as one. because these people dont know you, and in this day and age its better not to take the risk of possibly be shanked by a shady looking homeless dude.
god, you guys are so touchy. Except for lucem, your increeedibly creepy as always. keep up the good work.
6:44 am
March 20, 2013
winning.
entrappedmind said
As to my point about the animal brain taking over, yadda yadda, I think I allowed myself to go a bit off-tangent in that sentence. I maintain there’s some truth to it, but in no way do I intend to excuse the act of rape, for any reason, nor did I mean to invoke the “boys will be boys” defense. My apologies if I offended either of you, or anybody else.
All I was trying to get at was… Be responsible for your appearance, whether you’re a dude or a chick. Like it or not, how your portray yourself and how others perceive you will affect you – it’s your choices that determine whether it’s in a negative or positive manner. It’s not fair, but that’s society for you.
Dont apologize because people misread stuff. i didnt read it as a boywill be boys thing.
People will read it the way they want to read it to make it offensive to them because its such a touchy subject. woman rape, LYNCCCCCHH HIIIIM.
6:51 am
March 20, 2013
7:03 am
March 8, 2014
Novocaine, The Elusive said
Dont apologize because people misread stuff. i didnt read it as a boywill be boys thing.
People will read it the way they want to read it to make it offensive to them because its such a touchy subject. woman rape, LYNCCCCCHH HIIIIM.
Nah, people can only misread stuff if you leave room for interpretation or aren’t entirely clear on what you mean. Was my fault for appearing to imply a greater evil than the one I intended.
7:13 am
March 20, 2013
9:11 am
May 4, 2014
entrappedmind said
Whoooooooooooa there, nelly.Krunk, Pigg, I think you guys are entirely misunderstanding me… all I was saying is that, in some cases, the woman could have prevented it by not putting herself in that position in the first place.
I think not. You seem to be on both sides of the fence with this, (lots of words, BUT…) and in essence you’re describing Sharia law. It is cute though, how you try to shush the unshushable. Burka Barbies all around!
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9:34 am
March 20, 2013
next youll be telling me krunk that all men are rapists and should be punished. way to take an opinion and put a terrorist face on it.
let me guess you think that the world should boycott indonesia too? because they shoot drug dealers?
how do you go from a woman dressing respectably to wearing a burka (which personally, i actually find the idea kind of attractive)? your turning his words back on him, typical feminist propaganda.
9:35 am
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August 6, 2013
I’m not OFFENDED. Getting offended and freaking out about different opinions is a great way to make sure no one understands each other. I’m just trying to make a point. Men don’t put on clothes thinking about whether or not it’s going to get them raped, why do you expect women think the same way? Plus, women are raped all of the time in non-revealing clothes. The horrible truth of the matter is, no matter how much we teach people about consent, about how rape is bad, or anything along those lines, rapes are STILL gonna happen. I just think it is a bad idea to try and place the blame (even a little, which is technically what you are doing) on the victim.
9:43 am
Members
August 6, 2013
Novocaine, The Elusive said
next youll be telling me krunk that all men are rapists and should be punished. way to take an opinion and put a terrorist face on it.
let me guess you think that the world should boycott indonesia too? because they shoot drug dealers?
how do you go from a woman dressing respectably to wearing a burka (which personally, i actually find the idea kind of attractive)? your turning his words back on him, typical feminist propaganda.
The reason they make women wear burkas in countries with sharia law (which, SURPRISE! The bible has similar laws and the Byzantine empire are the first instances we fine of veils) is because they think that if women don’t, men can’t control themselves and will rape them. So they are using the mentality that since MEN can’t control themselves (they can) they should just control what men wear. Personally, I feel a woman (or man) should wear whatever the fuck they want, be it a bikini or a burka. Obviously in the workplace, or other formal situations this is not always true, but in their free time, who gives a fuck?
9:43 am
May 29, 2013
This is turning into one sexy conversation. And I think them aussies getting death penaltied was pretty fucked up, according to the news the guys were totally rehabillatated and the execution took place like 2 years after they were put in jail. Personally I vote Australia declares war on indonesia so i have something more exciting to watch than gay ass isis
Blood rains down from an angry sky! My cock rages on! My cock rages on!
9:46 am
March 20, 2013
Pigg said
I’m not OFFENDED. Getting offended and freaking out about different opinions is a great way to make sure no one understands each other. I’m just trying to make a point. Men don’t put on clothes thinking about whether or not it’s going to get them raped, why do you expect women think the same way? Plus, women are raped all of the time in non-revealing clothes. The horrible truth of the matter is, no matter how much we teach people about consent, about how rape is bad, or anything along those lines, rapes are STILL gonna happen. I just think it is a bad idea to try and place the blame (even a little, which is technically what you are doing) on the victim.
The reality is no matter what you do, there is always a chance you are going to be raped. Male or female. yes men get raped aswell. (Or is that more bullshit krunk? because it doesnt get covered by media)
So why increase the chance you are gonig to be raped. i gaurentee you that the number of people raped, a larger number were dressed like ‘they were asking for it’. im not saying thats correct, but thats how it is. shaking a fist at me and entrappedmind for pointing it out just makes your argument poorer. we are not arguing that what we are saying is morally, ethically or politically correct. we are arguing that IT HAPPENS.
You can avoid seriously injuring yourself by not running onto a freeway in peak hour traffic. thats just good common sense, but you still might get hit by a bus while crossing the road.
same applies for the raped girl. shen gets dressed in a slutty outfit and gets raped. if she dressed differently she might still be raped but the likelyhood of it happening reduces dramatically. its common sense people. dont throw out common sense because i talking about a girl getting raped.
9:49 am
Members
August 6, 2013
You can always watch the cartels in Mexico! Just as brutal (or maybe more so) than ISIS, but no one in the World seems to give a fuck!
I remember when Fox News was saying that ISIS was going to try and attack us from Mexico. Bullshit, the cartels don’t want a U.S. presence in Mexico, those motherfuckers would have their heads cut off before you could say Allah-uh-ahkbar
9:56 am
March 20, 2013
The Notorious, L.T.B. said
This is turning into one sexy conversation. And I think them aussies getting death penaltied was pretty fucked up, according to the news the guys were totally rehabillatated and the execution took place like 2 years after they were put in jail. Personally I vote Australia declares war on indonesia so i have something more exciting to watch than gay ass isis
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you just broke my heart.
seriously, part of me just died.
The only fuck up indonesia made was not shooting them 10 years ago. totally rehabilitated my ass. i promise you the minute they got out, they would be trying to traffic heroin somewhere else.
If you traffic drugs in a country where the penalty is death (Get off a plane in Bali or Jakarta and there is a giant sign that says ‘we kill drug dealers’) and you get caught, suck it up, your goin to die.
i would high five joko widodo if i could right now. he made the right call. if he didnt do it, he probably would ahve been pushed out of office and being he is the first uncorrupt ( and non muslim) president indonesia has had in a long time.
10:01 am
Members
August 6, 2013
But the thing is, even if she’s walking around naked it’s NOT HER FAULT. That’s the main point. The problem is the way we talk about sex in our society. Boys are learning about sex from porn before they hear anything from their parents or schools, so they’re getting a VERY unrealistic expectation of what sex should be like. Every thing in our society so hypersexualized, yet, it’s still taboo to talk about sex. If women’s bodies weren’t so sexualized and commercialized, this wouldn’t be as much of a problem.
10:01 am
May 29, 2013
10:05 am
Members
August 6, 2013
10:21 am
March 20, 2013
Pigg said
But the thing is, even if she’s walking around naked it’s NOT HER FAULT. That’s the main point. The problem is the way we talk about sex in our society. Boys are learning about sex from porn before they hear anything from their parents or schools, so they’re getting a VERY unrealistic expectation of what sex should be like. Every thing in our society so hypersexualized, yet, it’s still taboo to talk about sex. If women’s bodies weren’t so sexualized and commercialized, this wouldn’t be as much of a problem.
see hers the problem. i never said it was her fault. i said she could have reduced the possibility of the situation of it happening by not dressing like a whore.
Actually i never knew porn existed until after i lost my virginity. i was a pretty absentminded kid. i think from about age 8 i had my nose stuck either in a novel or a videogame.
The Notorious, L.T.B. said
See I’m glad you told me that. Cus the news stateside is playin them dudes as angels who fucked up
lol no, they were drug dealers. not very smart ones, but drug dealers none the less. im glad they are dead. because it means i might be able to take a holiday to bali and not run into 1000 people i know form perth.
Pigg said
But they weren’t ALL big drug dealer kingpins were they? Or was it only the leaders that were sentenced to death?
the first guy they killed was the ‘leader’ but im pretty they killed him because he was muslim and that was the cool thing to do at the time. they shot the rest of them last week.
10:29 am
Members
August 6, 2013
You’re not most kids though, they’ve done studies on this. As I’ve said, I don’t think people should have to think about whether or not a clothing choice endangers them. Saying a woman is “dressing like a whore” is a derogatory term, and no matter what you think you’re saying, claiming she could have “reduced the chances” is still putting blame, although very little, on the woman. I understand WHAT you are saying and where you are coming from, what I am trying to say is there is a bigger picture behind it. Why are women sexualized so much more than men? Why can a guy whatever the fuck he wants and not be “dressing like a whore”? I understand the realities of the situation, I’m just saying we shouldn’t focus on what the woman is wearing in rape cases. It shouldn’t fucking matter.
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