For those reading this and losing hope in the new CD always remember that negative types tend to try to project more and need to be heard. It is completely fine to dislike it but discussing sound quality is moot because it’s not CD quality. Don’t ruin the magic for those waiting by placing too much feedback on here. When I was in school my professors always told me that if I didn’t like something then I’d have to give specific reasons why. Saying, “It sux. The clowns ain’t Twiztid..blah blah” won’t cut it any more. (Never in my life have I heard of two completely different sounding groups being compared to each other for every release.) Lastly, for the juggalos reading this thread in hopes to just hear what songs may be about,etc and finding a bunch of superiority complexes, like this CD or not, ICP is a group of two friends who wanted to be rappers. They made a worldwide name for themselves as two clowns rapping about a carnival and lasted longer than almost all of their competitors. Embrace new work from them. Let them surprise you. That’s what keeps them interesting. Don’t let your expectations cloud the reality of what they’re bringing to the table THIS time. Don’t let a small majority skew your enjoyment of the new Jokers Card. 

ICP needs to get back on that Dark Carnival Serial Killer clown shit…….Seems like there strugglin to get back in that Mode a lil bit.Shaggz fuckin Murked a few verses tho.Dude needs to Drop another Solo

MaSiN1713 said
For those reading this and losing hope in the new CD always remember that negative types tend to try to project more and need to be heard. It is completely fine to dislike it but discussing sound quality is moot because it’s not CD quality. Don’t ruin the magic for those waiting by placing too much feedback on here. When I was in school my professors always told me that if I didn’t like something then I’d have to give specific reasons why. Saying, “It sux. The clowns ain’t Twiztid..blah blah” won’t cut it any more. (Never in my life have I heard of two completely different sounding groups being compared to each other for every release.) Lastly, for the juggalos reading this thread in hopes to just hear what songs may be about,etc and finding a bunch of superiority complexes, like this CD or not, ICP is a group of two friends who wanted to be rappers. They made a worldwide name for themselves as two clowns rapping about a carnival and lasted longer than almost all of their competitors. Embrace new work from them. Let them surprise you. That’s what keeps them interesting. Don’t let your expectations cloud the reality of what they’re bringing to the table THIS time. Don’t let a small majority skew your enjoyment of the new Jokers Card. 

Whoop whoop

Actually, i’ll say the tempest was the best they did. Since MEC been back. Most of the tracks on there should have those older sounds like that. Listen to the magic on the tempest, it sounds like they didn’t miss a beat on that cd.

Chuklz said
@masin1713 is 100% correct.

I hope they never make a card like the first six because that’s done. This is a new era of cards and wi th that come a new sound. If you dont like it then fukoof

Whoop Whoop dude

 Nothing can take away that magic the first six had, I am glad they are changing it up.

2 Dope really needs to do another Solo, He really has been on point as of late. I cant believe 

I’m saying this but I really look forward to his verses/Hooks now more than J’s.

After listening to this for a couple days now it has grown on me…to an extant.

If someone really wants SPECIFICS on why I can’t really dig it, an example of bad mastering

on this would be at around 1:56 on “Lost” it blatantly gets lower than gradually comes back

to where it was, just to get lower again at the end of the song!!!!!

A lot of the vocals are just really muted out. This is an example of bad mastering.

The Hook on “Shock”, like really, no one could have thought of something to be the hook?

The snare on “How” is like the most generic one a person could use, it comes with all pre-set sounds

in most music programs.

Don’t give me that Its not CDQ shit either, True Lossless versions of this have sprung up.

I think the Lawsuit,Touring, Killjoy Club,Re-Structuring Psy and starting the Radio thing up

along with family and other stuff really left them little to no time to put in the effort

to create a project deemed to be a Jokers Card. To those wondering it sounds as if

Esham was at the boards again or It was made on the road in the tour bus.

Most songs sound like stuff that you would find on Forgotten Freshness.

Only a few tracks really seem like time was put in to them. Lyrically and musically.

“Neighbors are Fighting” would be one to support the on-the-run production Im talking

about.

I will buy this to support ICP because no one gives to the fans more than these two

but, I would like to say I bought it because it was a bomb ass Record.

Fingers crossed “Found” gets back to the same formula ICP knows they

are good at.

stinkypete said
Did anyone get their pre order yet?

Nope not yet.

Alright so I’ve heard the album through a few times now. While there are some definite good things to say about the album, I still stand by my initial thought that they went way too overboard on the dirty south Paul Wall/Three 6 Mafia sound. Sounds more like a Killjoy Club album than an ICP album, much less a Joker’s Card. I actually laughed out loud when I thought about the fact that some of the album is kind of like the crunk part of “Radio Stars” but they are actually serious this time. 

If I had to put my finger on something that is the real “issue” with this album, it’s that it just does not feel like a Joker’s Card at all. On each of the first 6 Joker’s Cards, there really seemed to be an entity and a mythological background and story to the Joker Card himself. Aside from the intro of the album, there’s basically no reference to what the hell The Marvelous Missing Link really is, and the presence just isn’t felt. BPB and MDP had a similar issue, but to a way lesser extent than MML. Who knows, maybe those of us who aren’t totally feeling the album may have had an easier time digesting it if it wasn’t labeled as a Joker’s Card and was a Bizaar/Bizzar type of situation? I hope this whole paragraph has made some sort of sense. 

Again though, definitely not all negative things to say. I respect any band/musician/rapper/whatever that has a long career and isn’t afraid to broaden their horizons. “Confederate Flag” and “Flamethrower” are total bangers in my opinion. I take it that the very, very end of “I See The Devil” is a glimpse into “Found”. That should be interesting to see where they take that. 

P.S. The only thing that really made me laugh on this album is Shaggy’s line from “Confederate Flag”  which goes “Stick your fuckin flag pole right up your fag hole” hahah, gold Jerry, gold. 

5 more days until I hear it.

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a feeling of doubt or hesitation with regard to the morality or propriety of a course of action.

disavow verb

deny any responsibility or support for.

And they accused me of being the negative lost person. Fucking rapping clowns.

86 said

Im sure the backstory of TML is going to be told in the booklet that comes with the CD.

That’s cool and all, but that was definitely never as “needed” before as it is for TML.