darklotusfaygo said

– Release of projects – Need to stop saying something is coming out “???” and just totally brushing it off and not speaking about it. That’s what truly drives me away from psy at times. 

I think I can relate to this the most. 

Since ICP has stated a few times now that they’re gonna focus on themselves and their music instead of other’s, I wish they would just tell everyone else to go elsewhere to release shit. ABK, Hoodoo, AMB, whoever else is left on PSY. Don’t leave them hanging.

darklotusfaygo said
I don’t want them to leave but they need to hire more producers and open a side studio or something. They shouldn’t all be recording at the lotus pod. It just doesn’t make sense.

I think ABK should definitely leave PSY. He’s got a good thing going with Native World. It’s not as well known as PSY, but at least he wouldn’t have to run anything by J anymore. He could do what he wants. Like release Shapeshifter, because PSY just don’t seem interested in doing that 

AMB has Canonize, but where would Hoodoo go?

This thread is dumb.  That it all.

It doesn’t have to be every time they collab. Just something special and unique to certain collabs. 

That list is all things they have been doing for a decade plus lol.

The ‘speculation’ and release/project announcement has been going on since forever.

As far as their other acts. In this day and age no one NEEDS a label to release shit anymore, a lot more people are indy and doing well from it, I think the only reason they stay on Psy and put up with the BS is for the couple thousand guaranteed juggalo sales.

darklotusfaygo said
It’s not bitching, it’s the truth. If you can sit and say they put everything they got into killjoy club, the TMML then you’re on some kind of drugs. They had what 3 years to drop TMML and it def doesn’t sound like a 3 year cd. The songs on House of wax sound way more polished lyric wise than anything off of TMML. hell, i’ll even go as far to say that lotus could have been way better. 

 

Again, i’m not saying I hate any of the newer releases, just saying they could have been WAY better. There best bet with TMML would have been to just combine it and make it one big cd. I would have been really happy with that. Wicked on 9646948649864 different choruses drives me up the wall too. I don’t know how people can’t see a steady decline in ICP’s music, no matter how long they’ve been around you can hear the effort put into music, lyrics, and artwork. 

 

I still think they have it in them to create something absolutely stunning, i’m just waiting for it to happen. Sometimes J just needs inspiration but when alot of people say “things are fine the music is fine” that’s why we get half assed shit. It took how long of bitching about MEC not around then EVERYONE wanted him around to produce everything. Look where that went. 

 

I’m looking at it from a different view, and I know alot of the ‘juggalos’ are going to say no that’s your opinion, but in all honesty, it’s not. I know alot of people that feel the same way and have stopped listening because of it. So take it for what it is. I just want good lyrics and dope ass beats.

The lotus album is one of the best albums they’ve released in decades. It is your opinion and yeah there might be people who agree with you but there are people who disagree with you too. We all want good lyrics and dope ass beats but we all bring different expectations with what those words mean.

darklotusfaygo said

I know alot of people that feel the same way and have stopped listening because of it.

More or less in my case. Maybe a little less. Am I as hyped about new ICP releases these days? No not really. It’s real hit and miss these days over at PSY. Am I hyped about other newer horrorcore artist releases? Hell yeah. I’ve been exploring outside the PSY/MNE scene as of late, and have come around to some obscure artists that aren’t so heard of. Mr E & Redrum aka The Murder Mystery, Kung Fu Vampire, The Gravediggaz (6 Feet Deep is an amazing album), Wednesday 13 (punk rock/metal), etc. Maybe I like the whole horror thing more than most people do, I just enjoy the insanity of it. The bringing out of the darker side, gimmicks and personality shifts when the music invades your ears. Living out twisted fantasies and vengeance through the music. For me it’s a catharsis for the pent up anger I feel from bullshit that’s gone or going on. 

Will I ever quit listening to this type of music? Hell no, I’m a Juggalo. This stuff runs in my veins. 

darklotusfaygo  I understand where you’re coming from. This is kinda how I felt after MDP.

I love the direction they’ve been in since House of Wax.

TMML is my favorite era of the new deck. I don’t love Found but there is enough on that album, combined with Lost, the Outtakes, and HoW, to make it a clear #1 for me. They’re trying a lot of new things right now and it sounds unlike anything they’ve released.

I’ll echo @robtidwell in that the new Lotus album is one of the best releases on Psychopathic ever. Everyone came correct on that album. 

And I’m still listening to Killjoy. The energy alone keeps it in heavy rotation for me … especially at the gym.

Between all the tours, this year’s Juggalo Day, the hype surrounding the Gathering, the Falling Apart video, Dark Carnival games, and J’s new found acceptance that physical cd sales do not match the actual success of the album this is exactly where I want them to be. 

@drfreshness nailed it with the positivity they seem to have right. They’re having fun.