They lost the anger from the 90s. From a subjective view the are actually much more talented now than they were when they started. They just lost the anger that many of us loved about them. They are much less ‘fuck the world’ and much more “hey, we’re cool too”. In the 90s J said fuck the awards and accolades and now J says they don’t take us seriously and it’s unfair. The sound on Found is exactly what they said they’d never do. Every time I put it on I laugh and say, “the wicked clowns will never die!”. I really could give a shit less though. It’s all about what they want. (unless they start losing all of their fans) I typically get my wicked fix else where anyways, I don’t need ICP.

One thing that is annoying is that they put their best shit on side projects and EPs instead of on the main albums.

Oh, and Violent J’s weird voice like he’s doing a bad imitation of somebody to insult them. The growling angry rock vocals sound a lot better to me. Or just the straight up rap vocals. But not the cartoon character voice.

I think a lot of the beats on Lost were really dope and experimental they just didn’t use them right. They didn’t experiment with delivery and lost a great opportunity to make something really really dope.

Wes-Sider said

A true fan will sit back, let the creators create and just enjoy the ride.

This can be applied to just about anything. Music, movies, Wrestling, Video Games, etc. I think it’s very true. I think as a society we as consumers believe we need to know how everything works behind the curtain. And when we start bitching about how things didn’t play out the way we wanted them to, it starts to become less enjoyable. 

Like @wes-sider said, just sit back and enjoy. If you’re not digging it anymore, then move on to something you do enjoy. If you really do think you can do better, then go do it better. But if you’re not trying, then you shouldn’t even really have anything negative to say. Either you’re enjoying it, or you’re not. And if you aren’t, then why are you still listening/investing in said product? 

darklotusfaygo said
I have moved on though, I listen to different artists now. I still peep all the new releases and what not, but the shits wack anymore. And “go back and listen to mdp?” that shit sucked lol i hated 90% of the album. 

No, that’s exactly what I’m saying. You don’t like that album even though it has, to my knowledge, about everything you had listed for an album you would be happy with. 

You clearly have an idea of what you want, but I don’t think you’re communicating it very well. You’ve given examples of what sound “old school” to you, but… that doesn’t mean much to me. I could make a completely different list of songs from the new deck that I find to have an “old school” vibe. 

I don’t know what you mean by BPB not sounding enough like In Yo Face. I think a lot of the songs on there have a similar tone. What is it that that particular song has you like that the rest of the album lacks?

Honestly, though, I don’t want them to sound like they did in the 90’s. I suspect they’d have been gone a long while ago if they never changed their style, so I’m glad they evolved. 

Just to get it out of my System,  i like every icp Album they have out there (especialy the tmml’s) and that’s not because i’m a blind sehen and Would buy a cd where they fart into the mic, no it’s because I actually like the Music.  Believe it or not. I like the new Icp because of the Mixed blends of music they have to offer and i can find enough old school sounding shit on These New cars and eps. Tmml lost and found sounded exactly how I expected it. Lost like a New hells put and found Light Songs with wicked clown flavour sprinkled in.

And they somehow managed to Hit the nail on the hat Theme wise with These New cards and the Songs on em that it fits very well with my life Situations.

King Lucem Ferre said
Most juggalos I know hardly even listen to ICP, actually.

 

Every single one of the juggalos I know did a double take of disappointment when I play stuff from Found. Found is something I play for a laugh until somebody begs me to turn it off.

 

So, personally, I know it’s not an internet thing.

 

Initially if an artist disappoints you, you’d move on (ignore Lil’ Wayne, Lil’ B, Nicki Minaj, etc.) but when the artist is marketing their music as the foundation for a way of life, that’s when in issue comes a long. See, ICP is the face of this culture. Their music is supposed to be the defining representation of this culture. If a juggalo doesn’t like what’s supposed to represent them, then it’s not so easy to just move on, now is it? This is the music you people choose as your identitiy. This is the shit that changed your life, saved you, and became a way of life. That fact has become the biggest selling point for this music. This is a business that is trying to sell you a culture, a family in the form of a cd. If you embrace those ideas and embrace the idea of being a juggalo and dedicate your identity to this, then it’s a lot more than just moving on from an artist. To me, I think it’s silly for a fan to feel entitled to anything. But for those of you who claim that juggalos are a family or a movement or a culture, there is a sense of entitlement that goes along with that.

Luckily, I’m not a juggalo so it’s easy for me to move on from shitty releases.

Lol fuck that noise dude. 

Yeah that true for a bunch of juggalos but not all. I just started listening to icp like 3 or 4 years ago. ICPs music is not my fucken identity neither is none of thr other bands im in love with. What changed my life was god. ICPs music was the only way i could even humor the thought. So i did and BAM! The music makes my mind run wild. So does like weed and u dont see me bowing down to bob. 

But its obvious people will think this so fuck it.

I dont worship no man yo.  

I didn’t say anybody worships anybody, I just said that if you choose this culture, this music, this title as an identity. You choose to identify yourself as a juggalo which is defined by the music of the Insane Clown Posse. The Phish fans didn’t make it a way of life, Kiss Army didn’t make it a way of life, Beliebers didn’t make it a way of life. Juggalos are supposed to be a whole culuture and way of life and, as many say, a family. You’ve vocalized your dislike of me not being a juggalo. So to say this is not your identity, or isn’t a part of your identity is ridiculous. This music is a pivotal piece in the identity of anybody that calls them self a juggalo. Like it or not, if you dedicate your life to using this title and this group you are represented by the music of the Insane Clown Posse. So it’s understandable for a juggalo to get upset if he feels like the music doesn’t represent him properly in comparison to just an Insane Clown Posse fan not being fond of Insane Clown Posse music anymore. Me, personally, I never took this thing too seriously, but a lot of juggalos do take it very very seriously and probably much more serious than they should.

Let’s not pretend that anybody that calls them self a juggalo hasn’t chosen this as an identity when there is a whole image and style to this. Just like people choose the title ‘punk rocker’ or ‘goth kid’ or ’emo’ or ‘hipster’ or ‘police officer’ or what not to be their identity (or at the very least a strong piece of their identity) you have chosen ‘juggalo’. Why would you call yourself a juggalo if you didn’t want to be known as a juggalo?