I'm glad a few people found the humor (and not the hate), which was the whole point. If I can make someone laugh a little, even at someone else's expense, I consider it a good thing. I've tried to like AMB, I CAN'T. They are so unbelievably whack to me, which is why I can't get over the fact that people like them at all. They're pretty good at being not much. But, there are lots of things in life I don't understand, so we can just add AMB's fans to the list. 

Warlock, you were soooooooooo (multiple letters, I know you like that shit) on their nuts, it was just embarrassing. You even made the other guys shortcomings into positives. I didn't even know that that was possible. 

And you, Psyral, you a great faygoluvers addition.

Scruffy kills me, verrugavergas lol

LTB said
I'm very excited for this album, can't wait for it to arrive thursday.

damn i feel bad for you man.. you have too much honor haha.. lookin forward to hearin your thoughts on it tho..

See? It was all just a big misunderstanding. Warlock agrees with both of you. It doesn't matter if you were both saying two completely different things, he agrees with both of them. I know that you both weren't talking about two different things, but if you were, he would totaily agree with them and loooooolllooooolooollooool about it with both of you. He's agreeing to agree.

Also, AMB still sucks.

A BRIEF INTERMISSION TO THE FLAME WARS

Personally, when I'm met with having to resort to other people's reviews in order to formulate an opinion for things (as I try to avoid as often as possible), I take the negative reviews to heart first because they are usually the most honest. People can pay for *good reviews of something but no one pays for bad ones. However, this precludes such a statement as "Everyone's entitled to their opinion" when in fact, this is not the case. Everyone is entitled to their *uninformed opinion. Uninformed opinions are like assholes, blah blah blah. Not everyone has an informed one. Or to follow the metaphor, some people's assholes are prettier than others and worth looking at longer...

Whenever someone tells me, "I liked it!" and I ask why and they can only give a response akin to "Just cuz". I find that to be equally uniformed AND uninformative as "It sucks!". If you cannot validate your own opinion on a subject than I have a hard time quantifying how you came to that conclusion. For all I know you may only like or dislike something because your dog told you to. And by that same token, it doesn't require a degree in music or film to be able to feel validated in your opinion on such matters nor can those things strike down your opinion because you don't have them... as long as they are informed opinions. If all you've ever listened to one kind of music, you could never sway anyone as to why another is good or bad. If all you watch are cartoons, your opinion about how boring 2001:A Space Odyssey is will only fall on the same deaf ears you must have when you try to voice your opinion on this particular album and restrict your commentary to: "It sucks".

There's no shame in simply saying, "It's not for me". But when you take the time to project your unsolicited opinion so as to affect someone else's, you have a responsibility to explain yourself. If you can't take the time to do that then don't take the time to say anything at all. From the looks of it, Warlock (who I don't know nuthin' bout nuthin') took the time to succinctly explain her views as did a few others with counter points to hers (who I equally know nuthin' bout nuthin') while others fell into their own traps by expressing further opinions without validation as to why the former's were..."bullshit". No one is telling anyone that if you don't have anything nice to say then blah blah blah because THAT is bullshit but (on a personal note) when I see this kind of back and forth I feel like it's no better than the shit throwing we all have to sift through on any other Youtube page when we express our enjoyment of ICP.

So all I'm really saying with all these words and punctuation marks is, don't bring that shit of attacking someone for LIKING something to a site meant to foster our ENJOYMENT of a thing that in any other place is met with constant derision and name calling. Or for those that DO only watch cartoons, I quote Swamp Thing, "Do not bring your evil here...".

And if you think MY opinion "sucks", at least use more than two syllables to tell me why. I've already gone through my Dr. Suess books before bedtime and could use a good read.

WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR GRUNTING FLAMES

Cheshyr said
A BRIEF INTERMISSION TO THE FLAME WARS

Personally, when I'm met with having to resort to other people's reviews in order to formulate an opinion for things (as I try to avoid as often as possible), I take the negative reviews to heart first because they are usually the most honest. People can pay for *good reviews of something but no one pays for bad ones. However, this precludes such a statement as "Everyone's entitled to their opinion" when in fact, this is not the case. Everyone is entitled to their *uninformed opinion. Uninformed opinions are like assholes, blah blah blah. Not everyone has an informed one. Or to follow the metaphor, some people's assholes are prettier than others and worth looking at longer...

Whenever someone tells me, "I liked it!" and I ask why and they can only give a response akin to "Just cuz". I find that to be equally uniformed AND uninformative as "It sucks!". If you cannot validate your own opinion on a subject than I have a hard time quantifying how you came to that conclusion. For all I know you may only like or dislike something because your dog told you to. And by that same token, it doesn't require a degree in music or film to be able to feel validated in your opinion on such matters nor can those things strike down your opinion because you don't have them... as long as they are informed opinions. If all you've ever listened to one kind of music, you could never sway anyone as to why another is good or bad. If all you watch are cartoons, your opinion about how boring 2001:A Space Odyssey is will only fall on the same deaf ears you must have when you try to voice your opinion on this particular album and restrict your commentary to: "It sucks".

There's no shame in simply saying, "It's not for me". But when you take the time to project your unsolicited opinion so as to affect someone else's, you have a responsibility to explain yourself. If you can't take the time to do that then don't take the time to say anything at all. From the looks of it, Warlock (who I don't know nuthin' bout nuthin') took the time to succinctly explain her views as did a few others with counter points to hers (who I equally know nuthin' bout nuthin') while others fell into their own traps by expressing further opinions without validation as to why the former's were..."bullshit". No one is telling anyone that if you don't have anything nice to say then blah blah blah because THAT is bullshit but (on a personal note) when I see this kind of back and forth I feel like it's no better than the shit throwing we all have to sift through on any other Youtube page when we express our enjoyment of ICP.

So all I'm really saying with all these words and punctuation marks is, don't bring that shit of attacking someone for LIKING something to a site meant to foster our ENJOYMENT of a thing that in any other place is met with constant derision and name calling. Or for those that DO only watch cartoons, I quote Swamp Thing, "Do not bring your evil here...".

 

And if you think MY opinion "sucks", at least use more than two syllables to tell me why. I've already gone through my Dr. Suess books before bedtime and could use a good read.

 

WE NOW RETURN YOU TO YOUR GRUNTING FLAMES

mmmmmm great perspective.. I wholeheartedly agree. I'm a guy btw.. my avi is of esham's latest podcast cover.. cuz I'm supportin & I love white girls haha

Or, in short, like I've said, if you don't like an artist then why waste your time talking shit on them.

In defense of Nurse Joyce, he's a professional (almost) hater and does it for laughs, which he usually does get until he devolves into nothing but racial slurs, talking about dead brothers, or just getting anything in to make him feel like a 'winner' against whom ever he is having a grudge match with.

And we all know, regardless of the ignorant statement about AMB fans which completely parallels many statements made by people who hate ICP, it was funny.

Not as funny as Scruffy's comment to casanovakidd though.