Nyro said

I would gladly take you. You won’t get killed my uncle is an elder I can go on the reservation any time. 

Some natives got paid. Maybe 1% of them. They get federal funding for casinos and tobaccos shops. To do so they have to integrate of course which isn’t something a lot want to do.   

What tribe?

By the way I am a tad bit drunk so if something isn’t making sense feel free to ask.  I actually like the fact you seem interested.

King Lucem Ferre said

Okay. I don’t call natives Indian though. Never been a big fan of that. I never heard of Comanche though.  

What? 

OK,  homework. Please read up on the Comanche wars. Wow man.  One of the major threats to conquering the west and you never heard of it?  

You must look into the history. The military actually couldn’t beat the Comanche and used one of the first forms of biological warfare against them. 

They used blankets formerly used by people with small pox and traded them to Comanche.

Nyro said

To clarify I don’t hate anyone. I wish people would acknowledge that Natives received this same treatment first. It is not like it isn’t known.  Everyone knows what happened to the Natives they choose to ignore and recognize the similarities.  

I tried to explain this to you. BLM was a good marketing scheme. It caught on. Without it, nobody would really be paying attention to the police shootings going on and the BLM organizers have been actively promoting information about the prejudice against native americans. It was where I first learned that the biggest racial disparity in police violence is actually against native americans not living on the reservation. BLM told me that, not you. 

The thing is, if you want people to pay attention you have to go out and make noise. People exist in a state of denial. It’s too hard to care about everything. It takes too much effort so we ignore shit until we can’t ignore shit anymore.

BLM started because someone CLOSE TO THE ISSUE cared a lot about it and got up, came up with a slogan, a logo, and marched. And waived banners. And got on twitter and tweeted to every fucking celebrity that would listen.

No one is saying that Native lives are easy or unhindered by oppression. The history of violence against your people does not make the violence against other people justifiable. 

Oppression olympics divide groups with the same fucking goals. Oh, I got it worse than you blah blah blah. It’s fucking stupid. You’ll never know what it is like to be in a different minority, so instead of saying SOLVE MY PROBLEMS FIRST. Say, hey, you know that problem you got? It affects me too. It hurts me too. Look. Here. Let’s stop this fucking violence and while we’re stopping the murder of innocent people by cops, let me tell you about other issues I have and see if you have a solution, or see if it resonates with you at all.

As a latinx person, even with a lot of white privilege, I fucking know what my people went through at the hands of white people and the american government in general. What we continue to go through to this day. Every day.

There’s a great book called twilight that I had to read for school. It’s interviews with people from the LA area about the riots we had after Rodney King was assaulted by cops and they got off with out any punishment. Shit was scary as hell for me. I was like 11? 12 maybe? People said the same kinda shit you’re saying.

“He was on drugs” “He was a thug” and fuck, you know what, who the fuck cares? He still didn’t deserve to be beat like that. The video was grainy and hard to see but you can tell they took it too far. He was struck countless times. Beaten to a pulp and the officers who hit him were told that they didn’t do anything wrong but the officers who watched? 17 of em cuz it’s juggalo like that, they were fucking indicted for not stopping it. So they shoulda stopped it but it was entirely within the law? OK. Sure.

The riots lasted for 5 days but it seemed like it lasted for ever. Shit was scary and people said “oh, they’ll kill you if they see you on the streets” but no one fucking did shit to me. Because it wasn’t about me. It wasn’t even about white people. 

But this book. One of the first chapters is from a latino who was roughed up by cops in his teens. He is partially blind because the cops beat him so bad. He was an adult at the time of the riots. Probably close to 50. He had an adult son who told him that the police rolled by and pulled their guns out, pointed them at him, and laughed. they were rolling through the hood just acting a fool. 

Rampart was a police precinct that was run like it was a gang. I dunno if these cops were from Rampart, but that’s how the LAPD was at the time. It infuriated this dude that his son had guns pointed at him for no reason and he wanted to go protest but his family told him no. And then when the LA Riots started, he was like SEE LOOK AT THIS SHIT.

He wasn’t like, “well fuck rodney king! I can’t see! These fuckin n—- got it easier than I do!” He said, “FUCK THESE ABUSIVE PIGS!” and he tried to get involved. He was too old. And blind. He couldn’t do much. 

But at the same time as the LA riots, there was a lot of racial tension between koreans and black americans. Korean shop owners lived in the suburbs but would go into the ghettos to open up shops so it took money out of their community. Some of their customs were radically different and neither side was willing to look at the customs of the other one, because the others were generally suspicious of it. So when the LA riots broke, not only did they break windows and attack white people, but they hit up korean own businesses because both the black and korean americans failed to see that their oppression was coming from the same place and that they were receiving different kinds of the same shit. 

The white news was like OMG THESE FUCKING BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THEY ATTACKED KOREANS WHO AREN’T WHITE JUST BECAUSE THEY’RE SO ANGRY AT WHITE PEOPLE

Ice Cube dropped this song about burning down korean shops a year before the LA riots.

The anger and resentment between these communities was long standing and bitter.

My point is, be like the homie that starts the twilight book off. See that the enemy isn’t black people, it’s the system. Work with them against the system.

Even if you think it isn’t white people’s problem, you can at least look at the broken system and say that it needs to change. You have said that much already. but you resist holding the system accountable because it isn’t directly applicable to your situation as you see it.

Hold the system accountable. Make that shit change for the benefit of your people, if you can’t be assed to care about others. And if you want people to know about what happens to natives, then fucking vocalize that shit. Not at the expense of BLM but in support of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlj88rUVgQ

All true.  Just cause the scheme works doesn’t mean I agree with it though. 

I don’t think making noise is the answer I think being an example is. I don’t like protests.  I have participated in some but overall they just punish every day citizens by disturbing their day to day.  They never work.  BLM isn’t working it is getting worse. 

King Lucem Ferre said

Being an example isn’t working either.  

Doesn’t seem to be for sure.  But it also isn’t intensifying things like protesting does. 

Nyro said

Doesn’t seem to be for sure.  But it also isn’t intensifying things like protesting does.   

Maybe if there was more violence.

King Lucem Ferre said

Maybe if there was more violence.  

I can’t get behind that. Too much suffering already. 

” burn the shit down to show whitey” 

Just not my style. I am 100% in favor if BLM stuck to the goal of educating people only on an intellectual level. The message is sound but the methods are not. 

You can’t educate by force it breeds resentment.

I don’t know what the boston bombers have to do with anything I said.

Nyro said

I can’t get behind that. Too much suffering already. 

” burn the shit down to show whitey” 

Just not my style. I am 100% in favor if BLM stuck to the goal of educating people only on an intellectual level. The message is sound but the methods are not. 

You can’t educate by force it breeds resentment.  

I think protests are supposed to get attention of those in charge. It’s their way of educating people as well. Other wise people don’t listen. People don’t want to listen now. What if they did a big old BLM BBQ?