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The issue with BLM is the same issue with anonymous, it’s organic, not official. Anyone can claim to be with them. There are no steps you have to take to be part of it.
Also, I would not be surprised if Black people DO commit more crimes, including violent ones. Or at least a disproportionate amount. Being continuously fucked over and forced into ghettos and getting your representation cut off due to gerrymandering will likely do that. When you grow up poor, you are more likely to commit crime. When you grow up without education, you are more likely commit crime. Every since slavery has been abolished, there has been a strong and active effort to keep black people poor and uneducated. That’s part of what “institutional racism” is.
12:54 pm
December 3, 2012
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JiffyLong said
Black supremacists that wanna kill white people in BLM, so what, it ain’t all of em. There’s violent Juggalos (most relatable example to me, so imma use Juggalos), but that ain’t mean ALL Juggalos are rioting shit slinging whateverthefucks.
I don’t know.
Ok, so maybe I’m not done XD. We all keep using the juggalo analogy, I used it myself in the other thread. It’s not exactly the same thing though. Because as much as we think it is, juggalos aren’t really much of a movement right now. We don’t all have a common goal.
Lets think about this march on Washington though. Lets give this march and movement a name. Juggalo Rights Movement.
What happens if they get to Washington and violence breaks out? It WILL get tied to all of us as a group. So then we say that it isn’t representative of us as a group, but it’s too late, the damage has been done. The movement starts as something with good intentions, but when the juggalo next to you starts rioting or whatever he isn’t a part of the JRM movement anymore? Really? You weren’t saying that when he was marching next to you on the way down there….Hypothetically of course.
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1:01 pm
December 3, 2012
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@Pigg that’s what I’ve been preaching for a week. I really do think it’s a class thing. I posted that link in the other thread to the Reconstruction Act article on history.com
That’s where it all started. After the civil war slaves were free but didn’t have any land. So Lincoln gave them their own spots, and created Americas first ghettos. They were poor areas and the work was few and far in between. History shows that poor people stay poor, so there is this cycle of poverty that is very hard to break out of and has been going on since the late 1800’s.
Lucem and Rob are focusing on the black part of what I am saying and ignoring this part. I’ll just say one more time, that this thing is bigger and more complex than just a black and white thing.
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1:02 pm
September 18, 2012
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Slumerican502 said
So let me get this straight. When yall use the statistic that brothers are 3 times more likely to get assaulted by a police officer it’s ok but when I use one saying they are more likely to commit violent crimes(there is no arguing against this, once again) I am stereotyping? No. You focus on one aspect of what I am saying and are not looking at the whole picture of what I am trying to lay out.
I know they are more likely to do violent crimes, I just fail to see how it’s relevant to BLM or the problem at hand. So when you bring it up it’s almost like you’re justifying stereotyping them. That’s just how you come off. I know you, kind of, I’m sure you’re not saying that. I just don’t know why you bring it up.
Where is evidence that they are more likely to be convicted? And do these numbers factor in Lawyers and Public defenders? Prior criminal history?
The evidence that they are more likely to get harsher sentences is in the other thread, I posted it, the evidence that they are more likely convicted is from the fact that they are more likely to do crime. That’s how the crime statistic works, it’s based on who was convicted. No, it doesn’t factor in all of that stuff just like it also doesn’t factor in how many guilty people have not been convicted. These are statistics that just can’t exist.
Where is evidence that they are more likely to be arrested? And how do you come up with these numbers when you have no idea about the numbers of people who DONT get caught?
Again, being convicted and being arrested both come off of the crime rate. Yes, I addressed that already. We all know how shady Koreans can be, they should have a much higher murder rate. (joke)
And yes, Rob did imply that I was a white supremacist without coming out and saying it. Why the fuck else would I spend my time “reading white supremacy news” otherwise?
I don’t know if that was his intent, I took it as him just dismissing your sources rather than calling you a racist. Pretty stupid of him if he was calling you racist.
For my part, I’m tolerant of the PC bullshit and the semi racist bullshit. Like, if Rocko or Chief came on here making jokes about white people I would think that shit is funny. When Chappelle did his white news anchor I thought that shit was funny. That’s just how my mind works. If any group is open game we all are. We don’t get to pick and chose what is ok to make fun of. South Park embedded that shit in my brain a long time ago. Pat did say some shit that made me cringe a little bit. So there is a line that you can cross that goes from having fun to mean spirited.
I enjoy racist jokes a lot actually.
Plus that shit is like 4 years old. I really don’t think the whole forum is tolerant of some racist shit. Pat doesn’t even come around anymore. I really do think that EVERYONE puts up with the PC bullshit out of fear of seeming intolerant. I think you have that backwards. Everyone would have to speak for themselves individually on this one, though. That’s just how I see things.
People were completely tolerant of Smack saying bigoted things as they were tolerant of Pat doing it. Novocaine one time referred to black people as boogiemen to justify shooting them. (Australia is a very racist country, by the way) But people are intolerant of being called bigots. Why?
Finally, no you aren’t the only one that searches for facts to prove you are wrong. I finally learned to do that when I was balls deep in the conspiracy theory bullshit back in 2012. I know that google tailors results based on who I am, so you have to do a bit more work if you are trying to get to the truth.
Good, there’s not enough people like us. I’d much rather be wrong than not right, if that makes sense. I mean, I care much more about having the truth or being right than I do about being proven wrong and I feel as though being proven wrong is a path way to being right. It’s a very scientific way of thinking.
Ok, I’m for real done this time lol.
There’s not much disagreement between you and I, to be honest. Slightly different views on the root of the problem but we agreed on the solutions though, right?
1:03 pm
May 9, 2014
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Slumerican502 said
Ok, so maybe I’m not done XD. We all keep using the juggalo analogy, I used it myself in the other thread. It’s not exactly the same thing though. Because as much as we think it is, juggalos aren’t really much of a movement right now. We don’t all have a common goal.
Lets think about this march on Washington though. Lets give this march and movement a name. Juggalo Rights Movement.
What happens if they get to Washington and violence breaks out? It WILL get tied to all of us as a group. So then we say that it isn’t representative of us as a group, but it’s too late, the damage has been done. The movement starts as something with good intentions, but when the juggalo next to you starts rioting or whatever he isn’t a part of the JRM movement anymore? Really? You weren’t saying that when he was marching next to you on the way down there….Hypothetically of course.
You do have a point, which explains
JiffyLong SaidI don’t know
And your right about it not being a movement. That one thread y’all had trying to define juggalos made me question my juggalo exsistance.
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1:06 pm
December 3, 2012
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Damn, the shit 86 was saying sounds a bit different when It’s coming from a brother that happens to be a cop huh?
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Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
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1:12 pm
September 18, 2012
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Slumerican502 said
Ok, so maybe I’m not done XD. We all keep using the juggalo analogy, I used it myself in the other thread. It’s not exactly the same thing though. Because as much as we think it is, juggalos aren’t really much of a movement right now. We don’t all have a common goal.
Lets think about this march on Washington though. Lets give this march and movement a name. Juggalo Rights Movement.
What happens if they get to Washington and violence breaks out? It WILL get tied to all of us as a group. So then we say that it isn’t representative of us as a group, but it’s too late, the damage has been done. The movement starts as something with good intentions, but when the juggalo next to you starts rioting or whatever he isn’t a part of the JRM movement anymore? Really? You weren’t saying that when he was marching next to you on the way down there….Hypothetically of course.
I don’t see a difference myself. Being violent isn’t a requirement to be in BLM and being in BLM is not about being violent. But in a movement like that you have to expect people to use it to push a hateful agenda. I personally think the violence is a reaction to not being heard.
Slumerican502 said
@Pigg that’s what I’ve been preaching for a week. I really do think it’s a class thing. I posted that link in the other thread to the Reconstruction Act article on history.comThat’s where it all started. After the civil war slaves were free but didn’t have any land. So Lincoln gave them their own spots, and created Americas first ghettos. They were poor areas and the work was few and far in between. History shows that poor people stay poor, so there is this cycle of poverty that is very hard to break out of and has been going on since the late 1800’s.
Lucem and Rob are focusing on the black part of what I am saying and ignoring this part. I’ll just say one more time, that this thing is bigger and more complex than just a black and white thing.
It’s both, but at the same time why are there no videos of white people being treated that same way? And I want to make it clear, if I haven’t already, that I don’t think it’s white people oppressing black people. I think it’s our system oppressing black people. Maybe income has a bigger role than I notice, but it is still about race if the reason they have lower incomes is because of our racist history. Also, you can through in the drug war as well. That’s also a factor.
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1:25 pm
September 18, 2012
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Slumerican502 said
Damn, the shit 86 was saying sounds a bit different when It’s coming from a brother that happens to be a cop huh?
Not really.
1:46 pm
May 4, 2014
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Here’s the official BLM site
http://blacklivesmatter.com/about/
which states “Black Lives Matter is a chapter-based national organization…”
Maybe it’s just another “loosely-organized hybrid gang” like Juggalos are (were?) accused of being. Or maybe they’re Bible salesmen (persons?) as the first word on their home page is “Donate” (they take all major credit card$.) Hey @86 this trans hottie takes the edge off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnaw4I_WUaE
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2:16 pm
September 5, 2014
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Black lives Matter Movement at their finiest…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmbyAAalIRk
Fuck BLM. Racist scum.
2:31 pm
March 10, 2016
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There are videos of white people being brutalized by police lol. What the fuck are you talking about? Dude you want to see a few?
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King Lucem Ferre3:06 pm
March 10, 2016
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How about a Native in a wheelchair for attempting to toss a “jacket” at someone while drunk? lol
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King Lucem Ferre3:11 pm
March 10, 2016
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Black and white cops beating a guy in handcuffs. The title says black but I only see one black cop kneeing him in the back after he already got the shit beat out of him personally. Still police brutality on a helpless man.
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King Lucem Ferre3:12 pm
March 10, 2016
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If you want more “non black” victims I got about 20+ bookmarked when you want to see them. I can get even more I am sure.
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Nyro said
DUDE!!!! Hold up I am watching @noah-fence youtube channel and I am actually enjoying it lol. Sitting here watching his Princess Bride talk…after I watched his How are you video that damn near made me cry because lately I am dealing with depression among many other issues.I thought I was the only mother fucker that liked that movie. Literally the only romance movie my wife can get me to watch. Ok look first off….do more books and longer reviews damnit. Also more stop motion animation……fucking Robot chicken style.
Done watched all your vids I think…make more. Had to go through and like them all. Fuck my life most of that shit was great.
Btw if you liked the lyrics of the song used for how are you, check out Soko. Some of her shit ain’t my shit but a lot of her work is just heartbreakingly beautiful. We could be dead tomorrow fucks me up in ways i can’t even put into words, and the video is just perf.
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4:42 pm
July 28, 2016
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Slum said
And yes, Rob did imply that I was a white supremacist without coming out and saying it. Why the fuck else would I spend my time “reading white supremacy news” otherwise?
All corporate news is white supremacist news.
The stats you quote and defend were made up by white supremacists.
I don’t know you, but your news sources are clearly biased.
The stats you reference simply aren’t true. The real numbers are out there.
JiffyLong said
And is Rob back? I don’t see his name anywhere.
New name, same great taste
If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter
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May 9, 2014
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Aw shit, glad to see ya back. I ain’t been on for a minute, been busy with work and other shit going on.
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I would say most white people are not actively nor intentionally oppressing black people. Rather, a system which can be historically shown to be pro-white, anti-anyone else, is oppressing them. A system set up by old racist white dudes. A system that is VERY slow to change. If you don’t believe that the system is slow to change, explain why the DEA recently refused to reschedule marijuana.
There ARE unearned priveleges people get from being white. Just like being part of any majority group. However, the biggest unearned privelege BY FAR is the socioeconomic class you are born into. It’s hard to explain to a poor uneducated white person that they have any sort of privelege over a well off, educated black person.
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Pigg said
I would say most white people are not actively nor intentionally oppressing black people. Rather, a system which can be historically shown to be pro-white, anti-anyone else, is oppressing them. A system set up by old racist white dudes. A system that is VERY slow to change. If you don’t believe that the system is slow to change, explain why the DEA recently refused to reschedule marijuana.There ARE unearned priveleges people get from being white. Just like being part of any majority group. However, the biggest unearned privelege BY FAR is the socioeconomic class you are born into. It’s hard to explain to a poor uneducated white person that they have any sort of privelege over a well off, educated black person.
I’d MUCH rather watch any leftist attempt to explain to this man how he is oppressed. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IOtLx99Tmk
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Maybe Komrad Bernie can drive me to the encounter in his “Free College” rape van.
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Krunk, I actually agreed a lot with what he said. Not everything, obviously, but I think many on the left are very quick to dismiss other opinions and get angry and shut out discussion. I disagree with this. I realize that just because I have different opinions than someone else, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t treat them with decency. Getting angry at someone and being inflammatory will just make someone double down on their way of thinking as opposed to entertain different viewpoints.
I know you’re making a joke about free college, but I don’t see how it is any different than free K-12 education. I personally think there should also be a larger emphasis made on skilled trade. Not everyone needs to or even wants to go to college. Even libertarians believe that the government has SOME role, do they not? So this issue is just what is the government’s role? What should the government do for its people?
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