I assume it was Str8jacket that did WTF, Kuma is proud of his work and usually mentions it on facebook if he’s done something.

I’m waiting for this music video they made. (WHERES THE FAYGO)

I’m waiting for the tracklist.

We probably won’t get either until New Year’s Day or a night before Juggalo Day.

SO THEY ARE SAYING THAT FEARLESS FREDRICK IS DELAYED FURTHER DUE TO ISSUES WITH MIKE E CLARK!

IF THIS IS THE CASE, THEN ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD!!

FIRST THEY HAD TO SCRUB LYTE OFF THE RECORD

NOW THEY HAVE TO RE-DO THE MIKE CLARK TRACKS

Hahaha, talking about redemption. Thats my line, man!

There will be no redemption, only more obsurd speculations and redirections. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

At least not tonight, its past his bedtime. Hes already done jerked off and ready for naptime. 9am tomorrow sharp hell fill the place with shenanigans. (Shenanigans brought up diabetes as a suggested word. Thats close too…)

The Mighty Death pop seemed to drive a  serious wedge between he, and ICP.

Let’s rewind back first…

When he bounced before the sixth came out his go-to statement was always the parent labels hindered his creative processes. Remember, he left when ICP was still signed to a major.

In his absence, ICP went the DIY route. So no more interference from anyone other than themselves. He tested the labels waters when he did the remixes to the sixth.

When he returned, fully, around ‘F.T.F.O.’ and cemented he was truly back on ‘The Tempest’, it was like he never skipped a beat (no pun intended). Murda mixes, guest producing on Psy artist’s shit, BPB, the whole nine.

He was all in.

So now MEC and ICP basically go in to seclusion to record TMDP, he’s so serious as a producer he had J sipping hot tea to get the best vocals from him, this is documented, no KKKlown bullshit.

The record finally drops and is one of ICP’s best selling projects since being totally independent. Billboard status successful. Huge video budgets. They pulled out all the stops. So after the tour winds down, and the dust settles…

This next part is purely my speculation..

..It’s time to tally up the receipts. Either they, Psychopathic, over extended themselves and could not pay him properly, Or, no contract was signed between them and it was on some, we are friends shit, so I’ll do right by you, and for some reason they didn’t and he got the bone…after producing over thirty tracks for them and spearheading the labels most successful project in over a decade.

With Psychopathic being independent now, they couldn’t use the, ‘It was the Major labels fault you didn’t get compensated’ excuse!

Next thing you know Mike E Clark is posting screen shots of ICP’s tour header by a garbage can and saying people eat all the meat off the bone and expect you to get the bone, totally paraphrasing that.

Shortly after, the guy has his house and studio up for sale. Then basically distances himself from anything ICP/Psychopathic related.

His post for the next few years on social media are peppered with depression like comment’s and it appears he’s finished with making beats as his top priority.

So will he return?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Besides a freelanced beat here and there, I really don’t see him putting in the time and effort to create another Jokers card like that.

Once again, like when he left originally, ICP went and scooped up these cheap beat makers and can not replicate the success they had when in partnership with MEC.

Just from a fans standpoint, how you gonna allow one of your best friends to lose their crib and be on hard times like that? Or be reduced to a sound production guy on a fucking Kid Rock tour!

When that guy was responsible for the bulk of your success. Joe and Joey would have been working real jobs after C.O.C. if Mike wouldn’t have intervened in their lives. Fuck anybody who believes otherwise.

Make the man a business partner and equal of what he helped create!!!

I think you gotta take into consideration a few things too, that get left out of that run down that Karacella gave.

First and foremost, Violent J seems rather unpleasant to work with. MEC has said that their arrangement was basically they would ask him for some beats. He would bring by a harddrive with some stuff he had made and they would go through them, together, and decide on the ones ICP wanted. then he would work with them on making the song, recording their vocals and tweaking the beats where appropriate or what have you. It was collaborative.

Before leaving, MEC was getting frustrated with ICP on a personal level. He wasn’t as committed to the material. He challenged J and started saying no. ICP decided to step out of the arrangement. MEC started working with Prozak, where it could be collaborative (in the truest sense of the word) and they formed PDM as partners.

When Shangri La was getting worked on, J found Mike P who was an employee. It wasn’t collaborative. It wasn’t here’s what I got and lets make the best out of it. It was J saying make a beat to these specifications. Mike P couldn’t tell them no. 

By the time MEC came back, it was apparent that there was something very different. His excitement for it was gone. The beats weren’t his best. Like no diss to him but theres a level of fun missing. And it makes sense. When he was working with ICP originally, they were both creating something new and interesting, growing artistically with each album.

But here we are, MEC is a master of his craft and his entire career is “the guy who produced icp” to people who don’t really know his work. He hasn’t had a chance to really figure out who he is without ICP.  

Also, somewhere in all of that MEC got hella sick and spent several months in recovery. He almost died. After coming back from that he sold ICP some beats directly but (most likely) missed -working-. He had toured with PDM. I’m guessing he liked it.

When he left last time it was to be a DJ with Kid Rock. Kid Rock is a musician whose career has had a wild, unpredictable trajectory. Touring with someone so musically diverse and outside of the juggalo world gave him a chance to meet other artists and reconnect with the music you love. 

It’s possible (and probable) that ICP simply didn’t pay him what he felt like he deserved, but I think it’s important not to ignore that he’s an individual who was hired by ICP, he is not part of ICP. And that distinction comes with a lot of nuance.

Purely speculation in my opinion it seemed like MEC, ICP & Legz were having a great time with Bang Pow Boom. The dark carnival magic was back for that album as far as I was concerned and the most successful album they have made in the last 10 years if I’m not wrong.

MEC seemed to really enjoy being back at Psychopathic and his Murder Mixtapes were really cool too and you could see his passion for it in those two albums.

However something seemed to have changed during The Mighty Death Pop, a lot of people left Psychopathic Records sometime after that record. There was all kinds of different dramas going on it seems. People who left like DJ Fillin, Corporal Robinson, George Vlahakis, Dan Diamond, Joe Strange, Twiztid & Blaze all for different reasons and not all Psychopathics fault.

Also the amount of work they did for MDP was crazy producing 3 full albums and that Freaky Tales track that had to put a strain on everybody and it didn’t do as well as Bang Pow Boom. There were a lot of great songs but a lot of filler as well to make that much content. They were hoping that due to all the positive mainstream press they got from Miracles going viral that it would translate to more sales and it didn’t.

Legz stayed on to do 9 Pistolas and after the poor reception to that he has disappeared. I always felt bad for Legz, I couldn’t believe how many Juggalos shat on that album after all the cool stuff Legz had done to entertain us. He finally got a chance to do his own thing and give us something different and cunts didn’t even give it a chance…

Anyway it’s hard to tell from so far away and not being personally involved I really don’t know shit about what happened behind the scenes other than what some disgruntled former employees have said in spite after they left.

kukluxklown said
UMM PURPLE GANG WAS NOT ‘LEGZ’ DOING HIS OWN THING

HE WAS FORCED TO DO MUSIC WITH J’S WIFE AND BROTHER

THATS HARDLY AN CREATIVE COLLOBORATION..

PURPLE GANG + BLAHZAY ROZE……????? YEA

 

AND SO IT SEEMS THIS MIKE CLARK ISSUE IS STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A LEGIT FRED KILLER.

WOW, FEARLESS FRED FLOP!! THIS IS

.. LUCKILY ESHAM AND DJ PAUL ARE RE-PRODUCING THE ENTIRE RECORD & THE WAIT WILL BE WORTH IT!!!!  

No one likes you, nor do they pay attention or believe any of your completely fabricated bullshit.

Delete your account, make a new one, then type normally so no one will know it’s you..and we all just end up ignoring you again

I bump it every day, at least twice. 

On Christmas my nephew showed me a song called fuck Donald Trump and I showed him WTF! We had a great conversation about social commentary and how music can be a vehicle for progressive change. We also broke down the different lyrics in both songs and argued them from different perspectives. 

It was a lot of fun. 

kukluxklown said
WTF IS NAILS ON THE CHALK BOARD  

BUT “WHERE’S THE FAYGO?”