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Fearless Fred Fury (Official Discussion Thread)
February 25, 2019
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Pigg said
FFF charted at 44 on billboard

 

Check out @billboardcharts’s Tweet:

  

That’s sad….I mean it doesn’t matter to me I’ll always be down even if I was the only person buying their records, but I hate that sales are no better than that.

They had so much momentum built up with Bang Pow Boom (charted at #4) and then Might Death Pop was in the top 20, but then the wheels fell off with MML lost and found.

MML was such a let down for allot of people and really dampened excitement about future albums.

I feel like if this record (FFF) would’ve been released after MDP it would’ve charted much higher. Hopefully FFF marks a turning point and gets the ball rolling for better returns from the next joker’s card .

February 25, 2019
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They had so much momentum built up with Bang Pow Boom (charted at #4) and then Might Death Pop was in the top 20, but then the wheels fell off with MML lost and found.

MML was such a let down for allot of people and really dampened excitement about future albums.

It goes deeper than that.

Psychopathic is still fucking up post FFF.

A few days ago in New Orleans at Juggalo Weekend all the VIP’s got the bone.

-Told to give their addresses to be mailed out the merch they were promised, because PSY didn’t have it there.

-Gave all the VIP’s FFF Mardi Gras beads as their only physical collectible, then the venue told all the Vip’s they couldn’t bring the beads into the show. Ninjas started to throw them in the trash if they didn’t have a car to stash stuff.

-No Faygo Armageddon that they paid for because there was no Faygo on Night #1.

-Everyone was hustled through and only got a few seconds with J and Shaggs.

They’ve been doin ninjas dirty like that for the last few years. Fuckin’ up Hatchetgear, losing the warehouse, etc.

It really was an omen when two of PSY’s best employees got mysteriously fired/laid off over the last year (Kevin Gill and J Webb).

I don’t see anybody there now who would hustle harder than J Webb to promote an album.

Jumpsteady has been slipping the last while, his “wisdom” has been sounding extra dopey of late. Like, what’s he actually doing now besides picking a spot for the Gathering?

It doesn’t take that much time to order Porta-Potties, yo.

 

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“Fearless Fred Fury” is a powerful joker card in himself, and then “Flip The Rat” flips your fucking wig several more times with that mother fucking “Insane Clown Posse” wicked shit! I fucking love it!

Much Mutha Fucking Wicked Clown Luv, Thanks, Appreciation, Respect, Pride, and Love to Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope! 

MMFWCL to the Juggalos, Juggalettes, Juggalolettes, juggalettalos! 

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Miklo Velka said

JeckelJordan23 said
They had so much momentum built up with Bang Pow Boom (charted at #4) and then Might Death Pop was in the top 20, but then the wheels fell off with MML lost and found.
MML was such a let down for allot of people and really dampened excitement about future albums.

It goes deeper than that.

Psychopathic is still fucking up post FFF.

A few days ago in New Orleans at Juggalo Weekend all the VIP’s got the bone.

-Told to give their addresses to be mailed out the merch they were promised, because PSY didn’t have it there.

-Gave all the VIP’s FFF Mardi Gras beads as their only physical collectible, then the venue told all the Vip’s they couldn’t bring the beads into the show. Ninjas started to throw them in the trash if they didn’t have a car to stash stuff.

-No Faygo Armageddon that they paid for because there was no Faygo on Night #1.

-Everyone was hustled through and only got a few seconds with J and Shaggs.

They’ve been doin ninjas dirty like that for the last few years. Fuckin’ up Hatchetgear, losing the warehouse, etc.

It really was an omen when two of PSY’s best employees got mysteriously fired/laid off over the last year (Kevin Gill and J Webb).

I don’t see anybody there now who would hustle harder than J Webb to promote an album.

Jumpsteady has been slipping the last while, his “wisdom” has been sounding extra dopey of late. Like, what’s he actually doing now besides picking a spot for the Gathering?

It doesn’t take that much time to order Porta-Potties, yo.

 

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The first night was actually odd not smelling like diet Faygo root beer as we left, but On the flip side we got to see solo shows, so that was to be expected.

The Bead thing could have been thought out a little better. On the second night Ninjas snuck the beads they got at the parades earlier in, broke em up, and started pelting people with them so….

You would think they would have had the V.I.P. stuff, at least for this event, but no.

You said a mouthful and spit nothing but facts, but ninjas just turn a blind eye as they get taken for all their dough. They ain’t sending shit in the mail, history shows this as a fact.

I’m still recouping a week later from all three nights of hanging with the fam at the parades and in the French Quarter, so it was worth it 100%. 

🤢🤮👌👍

Met some Colorado ninjas that shared a bag of some extremely high powdered caps with us, it’s just now starting to go away, lol, nah, but by the time J played on Saturday He appeared as a taking polar bear to me. Like one of those talking chucky cheese animatronic things man, good times.

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February 26, 2019
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So ICP’s last two albums (MLF, FFF) are their wto lowest debuting studio albums on the Billboard 200 in 22 years (when Great Milenko debuted at #63)

Insane Clown Posse
#4 – Bang! Pow! Boom! (2009)
#4 – The Amazing Jeckel Brothers (1999)
#12 – Hell’s Pit (2004)
#15 – The Wraith: Shangri-La (2002)
#17 – The Marvelous Missing Link: Lost (2015)
#20 – The Tempest (2007)
#20 – Bizaar (2000)
#21 – Bizzar (2000)
#32 – The Calm (2005)
#44 – Fearless Fred Fury (2019)
#46 – Forgotten Freshness, Volume 1&2 (1998)
#63 – The Great Milenko (1997)
#88 – Forgotten Freshness, Volume 4 (2005)
#124 – Jugganauts (2007)
#136 – The Marvelous Missing Link: Found (2015)
#158 – The Wraith Remix Albums (2006)
#193 – Featuring Freshness (2011)

Twiztid
#11 – W.I.C.K.E.D. (2009)
#28 – The Continuous Evilution Of Life’s ?’s (2017)
#29 – The Darkness (2015)
#29 – Heartbroken & Homicidal (2010)
#51 – Freek Show (2000)
#52 – The Green Book (2003)
#57 – Independents Day
#62 – Man’s Myth (2005)
#80 – Mutant (2005)
#103 – Mirror Mirror (2002)
#108 – Cryptic Collection 4 (2011)
#114 – Mutant Remixed & Remastered (2016)
#115 – A New Nightmare (2013)
#149 – Mostasteless (1999)

Dark Lotus
#43 – The Mud, Water, Air and Blood (2014)
#45 – The Opaque Brotherhood (2008)
#71 – Black Rain (2004)
#148 – Tales from the Lotus Pod (2001)

Violent J
#48 – The Shining (2008)
#89 – Wizard of the Hood (2003)

Shaggy 2 Dope
#72 – F.T.F.O.M.F. (2017)
#88 – F.T.F.O (2006)

Blaze Ya Dead Homie
#52 – Gang Rangs (2010)
#89 – The Casket Factory (2016)
#100 – Clockwork Gray
#106 – Gang Rags: Reborn (2014)
#167 – Colton Grundy: The Undying (2004)

Boondox
#54 – South of Hell (2010)
#74 – The Murder (2017)
#113 – Krimson Creek (2008)
#147 – Abaddon (2014)

Soopa Villianz
#92 – Furious (2005)

Anybody Killa
#152 – Dirty History (2003)

Esham
#176 – A-1 Yola (2005)

Monoxide
#191 – Chainsmoker LP (2004)

Axe Murder Boyz
#199 – Blood in, Blood Out (2006)

The Killjoy Club
#133 – Reindeer Games (2014)

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February 26, 2019
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Chevy2Dope said

In regards to 17, I never really noticed they skipped in Ch. 17 in Behind The Paint. But otherwise, there’s 17 tracks on Amazing Jeckel Brothers, Shangri La, Hell’s Pit, and maybe some more. I don’t think they’ve ever purposely “avoided” the number, particularly since they go out of their way to make reference to it time and time again.   

“You are correct, Sir!”

I wasn’t asserting that they “skipped to avoid”, rather that it was made that much more significant when it did appear.

It was something someone put up in my head many, many moons ago when explaining ’17’ (you know how Juggalos can mythologize).

It wasn’t any kind of hard n’ fast theory I went around with, just a fun observational “game”.

Kinda like watching “Columbo” through the lens that he is actually an insane man and his wife is just a figment of his imagination…. heh.

The idea seemed to be supported by other instances like when an album had 16 tracks and the last one contained a hidden track (phantom 17). OR it always drew my attention to when they DID have a track 17, that it was meant to have some greater “significance” for having been there.

If that ain’t the case and it was just something I came up with thanks to some other dude’s thing, so be it. I guess I just invented my own “Paul Is Dead” to amuse myself.

 

[Math Required: 8 + 9 = 17]

HA! I love that I never look to see the math question until right when I’m ready to post.

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February 26, 2019
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Fucking finally got my FFF CD tonight. Just listened on my old PC up until “Hot Head”. I burned a copy to play in my ride because that’s what I do to try and preserve actual discs.

So far… I’m impressed. Very interesting sound thus far. Tomorrow I will continue on and listen more. 

Lookit how we Juggalos analyze our new music so concisely. Lol we are quite the group. 

I’m hyped after seeing that acoustic ICP album flyer. 

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FTFO said
So ICP’s last two albums (MLF, FFF) are their wto lowest debuting studio albums on the Billboard 200 in 22 years (when Great Milenko debuted at #63)

Axe Murder Boyz
#199 – Blood in, Blood Out (2006)

The real question is, how did this garbage crack the top 200…?

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February 27, 2019
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Hey if anyone needs a code for flip the rat I got 2 copies of FFF and already got my copy of Flip so…a friend in need is a friend indeed

February 27, 2019
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Can’t get enough FFF!!!

Thought about this for the last few days but…

Just formed from my opinions and taste.

1. Intro

2. Red fred

3. A face for fighting

4. West vernor Ave

5. WTF

6.Fite back

7. Hungry

8. Triplex

9. Nobody’s fault

10. Hot head

11. Game over

12. Night of the Red rum

13. Satellite

14. Friend request

15. Im the type

16. The dogg

17. Low

18. Fury

19. Seriously hilarious

20. Freedom

21. Be safe

Then… After 6 minutes & 65 seconds of silence…

I like it rough starts

Whatcha think?

February 27, 2019
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So Fearless Fred Fury is Fred Fury aka Red Fred…

Look up fearless fred… Icp.

Look up fred fury… Icp.

Researching red fred u get…

1 basically a site producing books with or for special needs kids? From first glance anyway.

2 a derogatory statement talkin shit on  redheads having freckles and being ugly.

3 put red fred back in the shed…How to set ur compass to navigate in the direction u choose.

In a past post someone brought up the red fred compass info.

Possibly he’s the moral compass inside?

And if that’s the case… Fite back against what?

On the track red fred, with this theory in mind, the “reeed freeed”  sounds to me almost like a cry?

February 27, 2019
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Split, no man, just no… When kkk passes you anything, you just say no. I dont care how good it smells… (Just fucking with ya man)

Im actually a little let down about the meaning of the 665. I was hoping for some glorious, heart warming, take it to the grave knowledge, and its far from that.

Still no more mentions of the 944. Wonder what the significance of that was?

Yeah bitches, im that short gentleman mentioned in that youtube video.

And the very nice, level headed guy from that other youtube video.

February 27, 2019
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So I’m watching today’s Joe Rogan with that lame Alex Jones and he is talking about aliens and fighting back.  

Violent j was on the 2 juggalo shows prior to FFF release day talking about aliens….and FITE BACK.

There is totally a huge false flag operation called fake alien invasion happening and unfortunately icp got mixed up in it promotion.  I suspect a fake alien invasion at this years soopa gather.

I don’t know about y’all,  but I’m not liking the recent connections about things I’m “seeing” lately

February 27, 2019
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Split1open said

Then… After 6 minutes & 65 seconds of silence…

you mean 7 minutes and 5 seconds

THE ALMIGHTY SMACK

February 27, 2019
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So, ive given the album a few spins.

Gonna skip the title and red fred.

 

Fury is good enough, not my favorite track but a solid 7/10

West vernor ave is amazing,  gotta love a good shaggy track, really dug the samples used in the track. One if my favorites off the album

wtf was good, but still a worse version of Terrible.

Cant stand Satellite. Just not for me.

Seriously hilarious is easily in my top 3 off the album. I love the hook especially. 

Game over i wanted to like more but honestly it feels like J gets his entire opinion of gamers from the 90s media. The song itself was good but the subject just felt uneducated and ignorant.

Night of the red rum is easily my favorite song. The hook is a total ear worm and hes not even saying anything for half of it.

Low..nah. not a fan. Just any part of it. The sample, the flow….nope.

Triplex is another solid track. Was hilarious.

Nobodies fault felt like it should’ve been a oujie track. Maybe i wouldve liked it more. But J doing it? Nah thanks.

Hot head was kinda slow for me but other than that i dug it. 

Shimmer…eh. icp “love songs” are very hit or miss for me. This one is a miss. I like that it seemed to be darker than usual but other than that i just dont really dig it

Freedom I liked but i cant put my finger on why. It kinda felt somehow sarcastic and sincere at the same time. Like. Genuinely thankful for what they have and can do but theyre being sarcastic and parody how most people write those songs

 

I like it rough….i wouldve liked it more if it wasnt hyped as their “most violent song”. Like…is this really that bad? Not compared to some of their other shit. Hell  its barely any worse than Boondox’s track Rolling Hard. The song isnt bad. I really liked it in fact. But i was really excited to see them at their absolute darkest.

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February 27, 2019
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Shimmer…eh. icp “love songs” are very hit or miss for me. This one is a miss. I like that it seemed to be darker than usual but other than that i just dont really dig it

Curious how you got to “love song” on a track about confronting your worst fears and darkest secrets. The proverbial skeleton in the closet and haunting memories tormenting and torturing him until he faces them directly and over comes their darkness.

ICP don’t do love songs well but I’m pretty sure nothing in this song is meant to be romantic. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

February 27, 2019
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jiggles the clown said
Shimmer…eh. icp “love songs” are very hit or miss for me. This one is a miss. I like that it seemed to be darker than usual but other than that i just dont really dig it

Curious how you got to “love song” on a track about confronting your worst fears and darkest secrets. The proverbial skeleton in the closet and haunting memories tormenting and torturing him until he faces them directly and over comes their darkness.

ICP don’t do love songs well but I’m pretty sure nothing in this song is meant to be romantic.   

Admittedly, thats the one i listened to least. I gave it ine good, hard listen and just wasnt interested. But to me it sounded like a “love song” in the vain of like…angels falling, or…i forget the name but qasnt there another song about J falling in love with a demon that was telling him to murder people? I wanna say “the witch” but that doesnt sound right to me.

 

I dont mean “love song” in the way that cherry pie is a love song.

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I think you mean in my room. They’re both ghost stories but here the ghost is a metaphor for a painful memory of child abuse. 

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Noah Fence said
I think you mean in my room. They’re both ghost stories but here the ghost is a metaphor for a painful memory of child abuse.   

Amy’s in my room styleish. I find humor in the chorus though and I will never say neck cause I find this much more entertaining..

 

“Eyes black, she’s bloody, and she likes that
A child dead in her arms, she takes a bite of his dick
And then chews it, pointin’ at me, blood drippin’ down her chin
Cocks her head, then she does it again”

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