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Young Wicked- Slaughter Discussion Thread:::
September 15, 2015
9:37 pm
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Lucky the only thing that I get is that you don’t like me.

 

You fail to get where I am coming from. You fail to get where anybody that has any opinion that is not aligned with yours is coming from.

September 15, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Please tell me how I’m a hypocrite.  

 

Also LOL at remembering everything I say.  I’m glad you remember, man.  It means a lot.

 

Like I said… I don’t care enough to commit any of this shit to memory.

Like I said before, you are a bad liar.

September 15, 2015
9:43 pm
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Are you addicted to pain killers?

September 15, 2015
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It seems like nearly every thread on this forum turns into an argument. It’s lame as fuck.

I don’t have beef with any of you and I’m not going to start, but it would be good if we could all just start staying on topic.

If you want to argue with each other, can you do it via private message?

So back to the topic:

I was disappointed by Slaughter. I was really looking forward to it. I consider myself a fan of his and I still am regardless of my disappointment with this album.

To me what lacked was the themes, they seemed generic to me. He claims wicked shit, but I didn’t really hear much of it on this album.

To me the wicked shit is dark story telling with a dope beat that gets you hype at the same time as being kind of creepy. (Examples off the top of my head: Night of the Chainsaw, Mad Professor, Flamethrower etc etc)

Don’t get me wrong, he’s talented, his beats are dope, but Slaughter only had about 3 tracks that I sort of liked. Maybe it will grow on me over time…

September 15, 2015
9:53 pm
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I explained how you are a hypocrite twice before. You choose not to acknowledge it.

 

With that I say farewell, I have a gay orgy with Miklo, Scruffy and now 86 to attend to.

September 15, 2015
9:55 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
What exactly did I do?

I suppose any post i make should come with a disclaimer. i tend to poke at people when i write shit, but i aint getting upset (most of the time), im just shooting shit how i see it. ill explain further.

I thought we made an unspoken amends in that other forum?

We did. and i consider you a close friend, despite how many thousands of miles between us. But if you think im going to say nothing when i think your being a dick, i dont think you’ll like being my friend. 

I’m more critical of my friends than i am of random weirdos. its an aussie thing. sorry if it upsets, but take what i say with a grain of salt and assume im NOT yelling insults at you and youll be fine.

I’ve done the same thing with Scruffy and others on here, i don’t think its gone down well. oh well. I think at one stage Pigg thought  I hated him, but we hugged it out. No Homo.

I’m not calling my self king for scaring him off the forum, I called myself a king for taking worse shit, I mean actual insults and not somebody pointing out my hypocrisy, with out storming out of a forum in a temper tantrum.

point conceded. still, bringing up his leaving is still being a douche. thats how women fight. if you wanna fight and argue with XIII dont bring up shit that happened months and months ago. 

Be a man about it.

Also, nobody has made any subliminal shots at anybody this specific time around. We both have been getting along until I pointed out his hypocrisy then he threw a fit about it.

Yet. and i wasnt really talking about this particular time. 

The original subliminal shots from his second or third or what ever return I did ignore until he started throwing a tantrum and stereotyping all atheists because one person who wasn’t even atheist hoped that ICP didn’t preach on this album.

 

I literally did nothing at all that I wouldn’t have done with anybody else he’s just the only one that cries about it.

 

I probably should have pmed that….

Probably, but I have no issues explaining my actions publicly. I’m just saying, you guys disagree. theres no need to be dicks about it. If we all agreed it would be very boring.

 

LuckyNumbrXIII said

Whatever, if it wasn’t for bitch fits, this forum would have zero content.

That’s only because bitchfits have become such a norm around here that the decent posters stop showing up. Doesnt make it right.

We dont all have to get along. But a measure of civility can’t be a bad thing.

September 15, 2015
9:56 pm
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@novocaine 

 

I just noticed while going back to the page where I explained how he’s a hypocrite twice that he was actually throwing subliminal shots at me prior to his melt down. I guess I didn’t actually care.

September 15, 2015
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Radam said
It seems like nearly every thread on this forum turns into an argument. It’s lame as fuck.

I don’t have beef with any of you and I’m not going to start, but it would be good if we could all just start staying on topic.

If you want to argue with each other, can you do it via private message?

So back to the topic:

I was disappointed by Slaughter. I was really looking forward to it. I consider myself a fan of his and I still am regardless of my disappointment with this album.

To me what lacked was the themes, they seemed generic to me. He claims wicked shit, but I didn’t really hear much of it on this album.

To me the wicked shit is dark story telling with a dope beat that gets you hype at the same time as being kind of creepy. (Examples off the top of my head: Night of the Chainsaw, Mad Professor, Flamethrower etc etc)

Don’t get me wrong, he’s talented, his beats are dope, but Slaughter only had about 3 tracks that I sort of liked. Maybe it will grow on me over time…

Couldnt agree more. on the first point. but argueing via PM will never happen. well it will happen but uit will continue to happen in the forums because the biggest offenders of them (no names) are attention seeking children. it sucks but i doubt anything i say will change that.

 

As for your opinion on slaughter i couldnt disagree more. yeha there wasnt as much immersive story to it, but i think its a breathe of fresh air to the ‘wicked shit’ scene. i think that if he keeps doing the same stuff album in and out itll get old, but I think im going to choose to look at slaughter as a masters piece. prior to it “young wicked” was an apprentice. this is his masters piece showcasing his talent. Not to be mistaken with masterpiece though, it was good but not that good.

 

I can;t wait to see what he does next. i would love to see him do an entire immersive story telling album in the ICP style.

September 15, 2015
10:10 pm
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I said ‘what did I do’ as in how am I responsible for his melt down? For replying after the beginning of the melt down? Yes, I suppose I should have just let the little doggy bark until it shut up. But I’m Lucem, I can’t do that. It’s a lot more fun to draw more out and make him look like an ass. Especially when he’s so deserving of that news paper swipe across his snout. Even then, I am not responsible for his tantrum after pointing out his hypocrisy.

 

I said ‘I thought we made an unspoken amends in that other thread’ talking about me and Lucky. See, me and you are cool for life. I apologized to Lucky when I dug at him for something just really stupid and I thought there was an unspoken amends until he went on this tizzy fit.

 

I didn’t take anything as an attack, I’m just saying I can’t be blamed when he throws a fit over his logic being questioned especially when he feels free to do it to anybody else.

September 15, 2015
10:17 pm
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So him labeling people over differing opinions then bitching about being labeled for having a differing opinion is hypocrisy 1.

 

Him throwing tantrums when his logic is questioned saying that I spend to much time trying to pick it apart even though he questions other people’s logic and tries to pick it apart is hypocrisy 2.

 

2 hypocrisies.

 

Anyways, I’ll stop when he stops an when we stop I give permission to delete specific posts of mine.

September 15, 2015
10:18 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
I said ‘what did I do’ as in how am I responsible for his melt down? For replying after the beginning of the melt down? Yes, I suppose I should have just let the little doggy bark until it shut up. But I’m Lucem, I can’t do that. It’s a lot more fun to draw more out and make him look like an ass. Especially when he’s so deserving of that news paper swipe across his snout. Even then, I am not responsible for his tantrum after pointing out his hypocrisy.

You explained exactly what you did, you drew him out so you could belt him on the nose with hte newspaper. that in itself is bad enough.

Don’t you ever worry that you will alienate yourself from the people around you by acting in such a fashion? im not going to harp on about how you should be a better person or nothing, because fuck that shit. but at some point you will realise that pressing peoples buttons is jsut annoying.

and then youll get old and wont be able to change. and that sucks. Trust me, i wish i hadnt being such a cynical fuckhead all through my youth. now its hard to change.

I said ‘I thought we made an unspoken amends in that other thread’ talking about me and Lucky. See, me and you are cool for life. I apologized to Lucky when I dug at him for something just really stupid and I thought there was an unspoken amends until he went on this tizzy fit.

 

I didn’t take anything as an attack, I’m just saying I can’t be blamed when he throws a fit over his logic being questioned especially when he feels free to do it to anybody else.

My bad, my toes are freezing. im going to sit out in the sun for a while and read my book.

September 15, 2015
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My point is, I didn’t bring him out to smack him on the nose. I just decided to smack him on the nose once he came out.

 

I did not intend to insult or offend by telling him he’s being a hypocrite. I swear to Satan.

 

Also, no I don’t worry about that because he and miklo and warlock are the only people on here that don’t like me. And those are people with horrible reputations as it is.

 

It’s like, when I give my pain pill addicted coworker shit for being a rumor spreading half assed liar all of my other coworkers including one of my boss’s cheer me on. I don’t pick on people unless they deserve it.

September 15, 2015
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Please point out the part where I said I brought you out to bark. I didn’t, I said I’d bring more out once you’re already out and barking. You failed again, try hard.

September 15, 2015
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King Lucem Ferre said
Lucky the only thing that I get is that you don’t like me.

 

You fail to get where I am coming from. You fail to get where anybody that has any opinion that is not aligned with yours is coming from.

I’ve had amicable disagreements with plenty of people here.  Only people that I have problems with are the ones that can’t handle my opinions.  I mean, I’ve explained why I think Twiztid are conniving thieves.  No one proved me wrong, they just think I’m wrong for feeling that way.  No, you’re not going to convince me that those shoes are worth the price of 3 New Balance pairs.  Or that it’s worth $100 to take a picture with Twiztid to get your ONE song.  It’s just not going to happen.  You can tell me that you like their music, and I’ll say fair enough, and move on with my life. Like a normal human being. Not follow them around for nearly a goddamn year calling them a hypocrite EVERY time they post that they don’t like something.

No it’s more like you have a problem with anyone who doesn’t totally agree with your opinion. I can handle your opinion, but you can’t mine. If you want to believe that Twiztid are thieves, cool, whatever that’s what you believe. No one can prove you wrong about that, but you can’t prove that you’re right either. It’s called speculation, not the truth. We’re here to discuss it. Some people just can’t stand to be disagreed with is what it is.

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September 15, 2015
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Please point out the part where I said I brought you out to bark. I didn’t, I said I’d bring more out once you’re already out and barking. You failed again, try hard.

September 15, 2015
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That’s like me saying that you are a retarded for liking the new ICP album. Then telling you that it’s just an opinion when you get mad. No, you are insulting people just for having a different view than you in that very statement. Are you really that dim?

September 15, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Remember that time I called you a “try hard?”  That was awesome.  Remember… $150 for quoting me, son.  

OCJ called me a try hard long before you were even on these forums. So that’s 300 to him. He also thinks you are a crybaby.

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I love how I get labeled the crybaby, but it’s like… I’m the one with the opinions that no one can handle.

 

I think Twiztid are taking advantage of their devoted fans, and I think the devoted fans are stupid to not catch on by now.  You just can’t handle that, and I’m sorry.  But that’s my opinion.  I’m not gonna lie to you and pretend you convinced me otherwise.

 

See the problem isn’t that I’m not flexible.  It’s that I require actual evidence.  A simple, “No that’s just your opinion,” doesn’t suffice to change the opinion.  Yeah… it IS my opinion.  Either you deal with it, or you have the burden to change it.  I don’t have to just be like, “Yeah, it’s my opinion… and this guy doesn’t agree.  So I’m wrong.”  No, fuck that.

Again, that is YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it. But i have the right to express mine as well, and I DISAGREE. What you need to do is contact MNE and explain to them why you’re so disgusted with them… if you truly feel that strong about it.

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September 15, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I love how I get labeled the crybaby, but it’s like… I’m the one with the opinions that no one can handle.

 

I think Twiztid are taking advantage of their devoted fans, and I think the devoted fans are stupid to not catch on by now.  You just can’t handle that, and I’m sorry.  But that’s my opinion.  I’m not gonna lie to you and pretend you convinced me otherwise.

 

See the problem isn’t that I’m not flexible.  It’s that I require actual evidence.  A simple, “No that’s just your opinion,” doesn’t suffice to change the opinion.  Yeah… it IS my opinion.  Either you deal with it, or you have the burden to change it.  I don’t have to just be like, “Yeah, it’s my opinion… and this guy doesn’t agree.  So I’m wrong.”  No, fuck that.

Again, that is YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it. But i have the right to express mine as well, and I DISAGREE. What you need to do is contact MNE and explain to them why you’re so disgusted with them… if you truly feel that strong about it.

Actually, that’s him insulting people for liking Twiztid merch. That was him getting upset over other opinions.

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Wait, that’s the third hypocrisy of Lucky’s so far in this thread.

 

1 Lucky doesn’t like being labeled for not liking an artist yet he labels people for not liking an artist.

2 Lucky doesn’t like his logic being questioned or picked apart yet he questions and picks apart other people’s logic.

3 Lucky doesn’t like it when people complain about his opinion yet he complains about other people’s opinions.

 

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^To help Lucky count his hypocrisies.

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