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Hatchetman
When did J change?
November 18, 2013
11:48 am
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wonka69 said
that money poisoned J ! he is a Richie 

and you’re a dick sucking faggot.

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November 18, 2013
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J needs to get drunk and go on a twitter rant…

November 18, 2013
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J needs to get drunk and go on a twitter rant…

 

 

so much fuckin this.  to me j is the shit. So is Joey. fuck fake juggalos

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November 18, 2013
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Yo J has always been like this since day 1…but it inflated to new heights during the success of The Great Milenko!…And After The Great Milenko the music changed up!! It got stale because when you get money your anger and hatred starts to disappear so the music suffers. You can look at any band or group and there earlier stuff will be fresh and when they get success and loot its all down hill…The music gets watered down and sounds stupid and poppy!!!…He became a richie just like the richies he dissed on the first 4 cards!…Now they dont talk shit about richies any more do they?…. Then he decided that they should start to act like them selfs instead of the “Wicked Clown Persona” He did this so MTV and all the Mainstream fucks would start to take them a little more serious… cause it would bring them more money and that is the only reason!…and if you dont believe me look at what they got in return for selling them selfs out like that!…TV show appearances,Radio show appearances, A TV show..ect…. All J sees in Juggalos is money he could really give two shits about a Juggalo…He talks shit about Juggalos behind there back and calls them names…And you fucks still give him your money… And the FBI sueing thing is all for J not Juggalos and trust me they haven’t payed a dime to anybody for the lawsuit so the whole we will go broke fighting this is bullshit!!…If you listen to him speak on the matter at GOTJ last year it comes off all fluffy and warm but really listen you will hear him for real…$$$$… All the covering up shit and the lying to the Family is just plain fucked up!….And i know there are sheepallos that will suck his dick and sit here and defend him..and hate on me for this but truth hurts…”We always followed god $$$$ hes always been behind it” Sad what psychopathic and the clowns have become!!

November 18, 2013
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ICP’s music has changed little by little on every record. That’s how any growing artist/groups works. Can you imagine if EVERY record sounded like riddlebox? That shit would get old. They had radio appearances before Milenko, so there’s that. I mean, as far as rich people go Violent J and ICP do a lot of shit to help other people out. That holiday heat toy drive being one of the freshest. I think with J it is more about CONTROL than it is about MONEY, but once again, speculation.

November 18, 2013
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I dont recall them on any radio show before Milenko dropped and The toy drive is a tax write off..lol. J is just out of control at this point!…shaggy is still the man!

November 18, 2013
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I agree that money has changed the music, they don’t exactly have much to be pissed off about. I used to be pissed off all the time, now that i’m not broke and livin’ paycheck to paycheck I smile a lot more, it’s a good feeling. Violent J and Shags 2 dope are still funny as fuck and cool as hell in my opinion, yet I hate more than half of MDP. I just bump the old shit but I still go and see ’em everytime they come around. They still put a couple bangers on every joint so it’s all good, it is what it is.

November 18, 2013
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Yourmother said
Yo J has always been like this since day 1…but it inflated to new heights during the success of The Great Milenko!…And After The Great Milenko the music changed up!! It got stale because when you get money your anger and hatred starts to disappear so the music suffers. You can look at any band or group and there earlier stuff will be fresh and when they get success and loot its all down hill…The music gets watered down and sounds stupid and poppy!!!…He became a richie just like the richies he dissed on the first 4 cards!…Now they dont talk shit about richies any more do they?…. Then he decided that they should start to act like them selfs instead of the “Wicked Clown Persona” He did this so MTV and all the Mainstream fucks would start to take them a little more serious… cause it would bring them more money and that is the only reason!…and if you dont believe me look at what they got in return for selling them selfs out like that!…TV show appearances,Radio show appearances, A TV show..ect…. All J sees in Juggalos is money he could really give two shits about a Juggalo…He talks shit about Juggalos behind there back and calls them names…And you fucks still give him your money… And the FBI sueing thing is all for J not Juggalos and trust me they haven’t payed a dime to anybody for the lawsuit so the whole we will go broke fighting this is bullshit!!…If you listen to him speak on the matter at GOTJ last year it comes off all fluffy and warm but really listen you will hear him for real…$$$$… All the covering up shit and the lying to the Family is just plain fucked up!….And i know there are sheepallos that will suck his dick and sit here and defend him..and hate on me for this but truth hurts…”We always followed god $$$$ hes always been behind it” Sad what psychopathic and the clowns have become!!

icp was never stale to me. You just gotta listen to the music fam. It’s good shit. You prolly just got used to the violent lyrics….

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November 18, 2013
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Could have sword they were on Stern or Mancow before Milenko, but I checked and I guess I’m mistaken. Oops. But they still kept “in character”

November 18, 2013
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man j has been the same type of person since day one. now he has tons of cash and a business to control. his ego has grown but when ur that successful it is inevitable. officially the music changed between 99(after ajb) and 2000. freekshow was the first record released that did not “fit” the polished psychopathic sound everyone was accustomed to. the funhouse and mike clarks mixing was magical. alex allowing clark to leave was a huge mistake. psychopathic does more for the fans than any other label to date. they don’t focus on getting more fans but pleasing the ones they have. violent j is very controlling he is like George lucas was with star wars….that shit is his precious and he wants to shape it the way he sees. its his shit ur just on for the ride, don’t like it? get the fuck off

Frankenstein is not a diss to j, its a fucking compliment. “…created by a mastermind…” “violent j put us up on the grind and said u gotta keep an axe at ur waste at all times…….”. it was a diss to the outside world who calls them icp clones.

I remember being excited for icp, esham, tech and layzie doing an album. I knew it wouldn’t happen though.

November 18, 2013
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I guess violent j should give his merch away for free and do shows for free and not do any promotion or interviews or nothing. matter of fact maybe after coc was recorded they should’ve handed it out for free and listened with homies and not hand out flyers or sell shirt. they should’ve just sat in a fucking basement in the dark and kept it real. go fuck your mother, your mother u sound like a stupid poor white trash uneducated pedophile. why did j start rapping???….oh that’s right, make $. u don’t like the shit, don’t buy the shit. get a job and u can buy some shit cause u know being a juggalo is about how many shirts u have, atleast in the late 90’s it was….

November 18, 2013
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joe doesn’t have 2 give away merch 4 free, but he doesn’t have 2 release every album with 3 different versions. he doesn’t need 2 hype we family, we all the same, but give me $125 and we can talk. he has merch he won’t wear! he has music, he don’t listen 2! he a ritchy bitch! the truth is what it is! fuck you!

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November 19, 2013
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chops said
man j has been the same type of person since day one. now he has tons of cash and a business to control. his ego has grown but when ur that successful it is inevitable. officially the music changed between 99(after ajb) and 2000. freekshow was the first record released that did not “fit” the polished psychopathic sound everyone was accustomed to. the funhouse and mike clarks mixing was magical. alex allowing clark to leave was a huge mistake. psychopathic does more for the fans than any other label to date. they don’t focus on getting more fans but pleasing the ones they have. violent j is very controlling he is like George lucas was with star wars….that shit is his precious and he wants to shape it the way he sees. its his shit ur just on for the ride, don’t like it? get the fuck off

Frankenstein is not a diss to j, its a fucking compliment. “…created by a mastermind…” “violent j put us up on the grind and said u gotta keep an axe at ur waste at all times…….”. it was a diss to the outside world who calls them icp clones.

I remember being excited for icp, esham, tech and layzie doing an album. I knew it wouldn’t happen though.

Yeah, and George Lucas FUCKED UP Star Wars too. I am not saying anything about the money, I am talking about him and psy being the asshole label he talked about hating in Behind the Paint. Psy is VERY cool to their fans, but they treat their artists like shit. As does Strange. I love being a fan, but I would NEVER want to be on the label.

November 19, 2013
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I dont really think J or Shaggy Changed for the worse like some ppl do. They have just gotten older and matured over the years. Money success, age, wife and kids…are all things that change people. Its just a part of life. Icp do more for their fanbase then any other artists in music n i 100% believe and stand by that statement. Also you know whats changed things?…..THE INTERNET. Any troll can hop online n talk all the shit they want behind a keyboard, sittin around makin up bs or spreading rumours.

Iv come to terms with 1 thing though. The butt hurtalos on the internet are not the cool ass ninjas you meet and kick it with at shows. REAL Juggalos love and appreciate everything ICP has done for us and dont bitch about every lil thing. When it comes to the music…not everythings for EVERYONE. I dont LOVE every single thing PSY n ICP puts out. But i dont cry about it. I bump what i feel and truthfully thats the majority of the shit the clowns put out anyway!

November 19, 2013
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fuck tha noise… a better question would b when did juggalos change? cuz tha could b the exact reason why J might not feel the same way he used to. If u expect j to b something different then he is ur nuts. even to this date I feel icp makes the music in their soul. I might not b wha u wanna hear but they put they still putt whas in them on tracks.

more than anything else here, this.  

 

compare all the whining to those who say shit like, ‘mommy isnt the same to be as she used to be’.  

well, thats probably because youre 27 now, and mommy figures you should be able to wipe your own ass without getting poop under your fingernails.  or complaining about it as if mommy owes you somethin.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

November 19, 2013
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Or as Chon says in “Savages”: you don’t change the world; the world changes you.

 

The internet has indeed changed nearly everything in this world. 

 

“Even with all this technology, my friends still find it hard to talk to me” – Wrekonize.

November 19, 2013
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Old Mr Dangerous said
Or as Chon says in “Savages”: you don’t change the world; the world changes you.

 

The internet has indeed changed nearly everything in this world. 

 

“Even with all this technology, my friends still find it hard to talk to me” – Wrekonize.

Excellent quote. There really isnt an excuse not to keep in touch with people anymore.

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November 19, 2013
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I think people misconstrued this as the music. When I made this post, I meant it in the sense that he has become something that he hated. Everyone who has ever left Psy has said that J is a controlling, money-hungry person. I still like ICP’s music, maybe not as much, but I think MDP is a very solid album. I just mean in the sense of running a label and how he treats his artists/employees.

November 19, 2013
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Hell yeah he changed.  What made me think twice was when him and Shaggy were on that fox channel talking about not being on the rock and roll hall of fame and J was wearing a fucking money bag t-shirt!  But you can’t read to much into that shit.  I’m sure going through all this FBI bullshit would put a toll on anyone’s attitude.  Imagine spending over 20 years building an empire, to see it all crumble before your eyes.  Just sayin’, put yourself in his shoes.   

November 19, 2013
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I think his point on fox was theyre more accomplished than most bands….and get shit on.

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