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August 6, 2013
So, obviously this is a purely speculative thread, but I just wanted to start of discussion on when you guys thought J turned into the ruthless (at times misguided) businessman he is now. If you read Behind the Paint, he talks about hating label dudes like that, but it could have been before that and he was just full of shit, but I honestly think it was after Hell’s Pit. They realized they didn’t have a huge saga anymore and he wanted to find money as much as he could. Maybe the weed got to him. Your thoughts?
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March 31, 2012
maybe after alex left billy came in & changed him/psy.. when you think about it that was the 1st shift.. esham, lavel, abk, zug, mc breed all left/stop being recognized as psy artist around that time.. hell even jumpsteady left.. or maybe it was a combo of all of that that changed him.. who knows..
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August 6, 2013
In a communist government, would the government run the underground horrorcore labels?
But I think it was before Alex left. ABK left before AA. If you read the release, it says “…from this day on Bill Dail is the new President and C.E.O. of Psychopathic Records and the official manager of ICP, Blaze, AMB, Boondox and Twiztid.”
This means that ABK was getting fucked over and decided to leave before Alex left, as did Esham.
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March 8, 2013
My brain is gone, my brain is gone, say no more my brain is gone
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March 30, 2013
Things are fine overall, but definitely bit as fulfilling as previous eras for me. A lot of people hate (and with good reason due to his shady tactics pulled during drug addiction), but I enjoyed having Esham on the label. Zug Izland was cool too.
Before these other groups came in was such a contrast to the following eras that it can’t even really be compared. Back when the only groups ICP could even collaborate with were PJB, Twiztid and Myzery.
But flash forward to the expansion of PSY eras, I do believe the most enjoyable and creative era was right after Shangri La was dropped. We got WOTH, Dirty History, Green Book. Esham in the place. Jumpsteady. Everyone was all over each other’s shit too. PFOS 2 and such. They all seemed like a unit. Violent J giving exercise advice and rapping better than he ever had due to cannabis smoking. Of course there was the Majik Records drama. It opened up a few eyes, including mine. Especially that infamous drunken rant by J. Frankenstein. Ah well.
Oh…went off on a stream of consciousness thing again.. uh, to answer your question, J always changes. Aren’t Taurses like that? Lol.
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March 8, 2013
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May 29, 2013
Chuklz said
I believe I missed said drunken rant.link? Summary?
J gets all emotional cus twiztid was gonna leave and reassures icp is psychopathic and icp and psychopathic will always be there. But he seems pretty upset. Sad and angry. Unless im thinking of a different rant.
Blood rains down from an angry sky! My cock rages on! My cock rages on!
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August 12, 2012
http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/n…..icnews.htm
12/28/03
pulled fromfaygo lovers
J PUTS IT ALL OUT
TWIZTID AND ZUG OFF PSYCHOPATHIC ????????????
TWIZTID SINGIN WITH SHADY???????????
Chat Room : thin ice from MAD UPS TO DaKilla From [email protected]
Nobody Fresh: fear not, J can do his thing un
Nobody Fresh: J can build a card house during an earth quakeder any circumstances
Nobody Fresh: MJ fuckin did it
Nobody Fresh: Gross bull shit
NObody Fresh: he foldeled that kids penis hole
Nobody Fresh: To Mikael, there hottie bitches
Nobody Fresh: CKY, id like to tour with them
Nobody Fresh: unless there like fully gay or something
Nobody Fresh: Like we’ve ever been discovered or something
Nobody Fresh: what was I talking about
Nobody Fresh: Planned Panic or Soope Villians. TThis is the deal, Tech wants to call it Planned Panic,
but me Joey and Esham, and Lazie Bone wanna and have to call it Soopa Villians.
So its up to yall to send him Tech emals tellin him come on!
Nobody Fresh: This Hells Pit record is detroying me
Nobody Fresh: Its detroying my Karmah
Nobody Fresh: Song after song about Blood, guts, revenge and evil, and mostlu people in hell
Nobody Fresh: Im already 80% detroid
Nobody Fresh: thats why were bringing you it
Nobody Fresh: Listen
Nobody Fresh: LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: 2003…..
Nobody Fresh: Diamond Rain Tour, Shangra La Tour, Autrailla Tour, Wicked Wonka Tour,
Europe Tour, Psychopathics From Outer Space, JCW 3, Gathering, The Book, Wizard Of The Hood,
it was Craaaaaazy when you look at it all
Nobody Fresh: My and my best friend
Nobody Fresh: Joey
Nobody Fresh: we got a plan
Nobody Fresh: This Hells Pit
Nobody Fresh: This Hells pit Tour
Nobody Fresh: This one will be out last album
Nobody Fresh: this one will be our last
Nobody Fresh: whats after that is solo records from both of us
Nobody Fresh: all over eachother shit
Nobody Fresh: 5 years lator
Nobody Fresh: THE REUNION
Nobody Fresh: BUT EVERYYEAR
Nobody Fresh: We tour once
Nobody Fresh: From Gathering up until Halklowicked
Nobody Fresh: then back to solo shit
Nobody Fresh: until the 4 or 5 years is up
Nobody Fresh: Thats been our plan for years
Nobody Fresh: Ill hang up the mic only when I think I’m starting to suck
Nobody Fresh: Talk to one ninja
Nobody Fresh: who put a stop to the whole entire Dark Lotus project that was supposed to start January 3rd
Nobody Fresh: was like maybe in 6 more months or something
Nobody Fresh: let me ask you all a question
Nobody Fresh: who wasent at the xmas party
Nobody Fresh: who preaches this…. it aint about Juggalo, its about family
Nobody Fresh: i dont care anymore
Nobody Fresh: he’s his own ninja
Nobody Fresh: He said, he aint feeling Lotus right now, maybe in 6 months maybe in a year
Nobody Fresh: manNobody Fresh: fuck it and fuck it all
Nobody Fresh: just know this
Nobody Fresh: one day real soon
Nobody Fresh: Let me ask yall one more thing
Nobody Fresh: who do you all think Twiztid’s song Frankenstine is about?
Nobody Fresh: OK, a diss on me put out on my own lable
Nobody Fresh: so this is the bottem line
Nobody Fresh: THIS IS HE BOTTEM LINE
Nobody Fresh: Folloe me for the bottem line
No WE ANT DONE Next ROOM from
Josh76023 and he said just give shout outs to the band downfall from Charles Town, West Virginia. and say soemthing like if your in the area try to hit up one of their shows
CHAT ROOM : stailness
Nobody Fresh: He said, he aint feeling Lotus right now, maybe in 6 months maybe in a year
Nobody Fresh: fuck it and fuck it all
Nobody Fresh: just know this
Nobody Fresh: one day real soon
Nobody Fresh: Let me ask yall one more thing
Nobody Fresh: who do you all think Twiztid’s song Frankenstine is about?
Nobody Fresh: OK, a diss on me put out on my own lable
Nobody Fresh: so this is the bottem line
Nobody Fresh: Everybody please do me a big favor
Nobody Fresh: Let me be the only ninja with this typeset color
Nobody Fresh: listen
Nobody Fresh: im drunk
Nobody Fresh: thats why im spilling my guts
Nobody Fresh: I feel like
Nobody Fresh: I owe ninjas and Juggalos much more than I give
Nobody Fresh: about the truth and myself
Nobody Fresh: if we start holding back the truths
Nobody Fresh: its like were controlling something
Nobody Fresh: and this juggalo nation aint suppoised to be controlled
Nobody Fresh: if it goes away than it just does
Nobody Fresh: Hold up one sec
Nobody Fresh: for all yall to print and share with the world I aint stupid
Nobody Fresh: come newyears
Nobody Fresh: things are gonna be stale at first
Nobody Fresh: really stale
Nobody Fresh: alot of stale news
Nobody Fresh: alot of broken hearts’
Nobody Fresh: alot of un fuckin nessisary bullshit
Nobody Fresh: but its just the was life is I guess, even for a juggalo
Nobody Fresh: But some peeps are leaving the family
Nobody Fresh: nothing can be done
Nobody Fresh: ninjas are growing and going
Nobody Fresh: there own way
Nobody Fresh: Zug Island might be gone, Twiztid Might be gone, Blaze is gone but I guess Colton Gundy is alive and rappin someplace else, He told ME he was out, so whatever
Nobody Fresh: Mike P thinks he’s Prince thats why
Nobody Fresh: Mike P thinks he’s Prince thats why
Nobody Fresh: and after he did the 6th he just now thinks he’s Quincy Jones
Nobody Fresh: We went to mike E
Nobody Fresh: Mike told us, he’s gonna do the whole record or none of it
Nobody Fresh: and we already got 14 done
Nobody Fresh: sp fuck Mike E
Nobody Fresh: Besides he sold the “wall” on E Bay
Nobody Fresh: you know what the wall is?
Nobody Fresh: The wall was a wall we drew on in Mike Clarks Fun House Studio and Joey drew on it session after session for 3 or 4 years. And mike cut the wall out and Sold it on E Bay
Nobody Fresh: LOOK YALL
Nobody Fresh: WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT ME AND JOEY OR PSYCHOPATHIC STRAIGHT UP BACKSTABBING AND FUCKIN SOMEBODY OVER… I’LL ANSWER TO QUESTIONS AND CONFRONT THOSE ALLIGATIONS
Nobody Fresh: name em
Nobody Fresh: what, when who and how
Nobody Fresh: Esham and Eminem hate eachother
Nobody Fresh: Thug Pit
Nobody Fresh: thats his problem
Nobody Fresh: ask him
Nobody Fresh: I dont fuckin sencor our artist
Nobody Fresh: Esham and ABK just did a song with me today
Nobody Fresh: BEEF
Nobody Fresh: Beef means fighting
Nobody Fresh: Aint no Beef at Psychopathic
Nobody Fresh: whats he say
Nobody Fresh: Well he must not be talkin about us, 2 resons, we aint fags, and number 2 he aint never shot at us with no paint balls
Nobody Fresh: Look
Nobody Fresh: was anybody in this room a crip or a blood growing up?
Nobody Fresh: NO!
Nobody Fresh: Me niether
Nobody Fresh: A Aint really drunk
Nobody Fresh: I kind of lied about the drunk part
Nobody Fresh: because I wish I was
Nobody Fresh: yes its a code
Nobody Fresh: its funner to get it on your onw
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit>
Nobody Fresh: You wanna know about the PIT?
Nobody Fresh: Who anybody
Nobody Fresh: ???
Nobody Fresh: Man I an 2 things 1. Im flattered that yall actually carea about our new shit like that, and nu,mber 2
Nobody Fresh: Imma tell ya
Nobody Fresh: hope it dont let yall down
Nobody Fresh: the first song on The Wraith Shangra La was called “Walk into the Light” and on Hell’s Pit the first song is called, Walk into the Darkness
Nobody Fresh: This one will touch you in a bad way. your best to just not get it
Nobody Fresh: Yeah
Nobody Fresh: Evil shit is always fresh LISTEN YOU FUCKS
Nobody Fresh: Evil shit is fresh when its mixxed in ith several other karmas and flavors
Nobody Fresh: but one record, straight eveil
Nobody Fresh: is something else
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit is straight eveil
Nobody Fresh: Death, bloody blood, chop, necks, bloody faces, stab stab, wind pipes I grab, and nab, bolldy bloody
Nobody Fresh: Look yall
Nobody Fresh: I couldnt have explained it in the seminar any better
Nobody Fresh: Shangra La was for yall
Nobody Fresh: That wasent that eveil because on that record we were celibrating and parting and lovin it up in heavon with YOU
Nobody Fresh: Butr Hells Pit
Nobody Fresh: Its for the evil lost ones
Nobody Fresh: its for some of you
Nobody Fresh: but not those that really see what were trying to say
Nobody Fresh: Hat chet
Nobody Fresh: yes
Nobody Fresh: There will be one song
Nobody Fresh: Called
Nobody Fresh: Heavons Forcast
Nobody Fresh: It rained bodys in Hells forcast
Nobody Fresh: in Heavons forcast
Nobody Fresh: It rains diamonds again
Nobody Fresh: The last track will be nothing said special
Nobody Fresh: we look at it like thius
Nobody Fresh: On the Shangrala record, that was technically the 6th jokers card, so we basically said it all on that
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit, is for them
Nobody Fresh: we have nothing to say to them
Nobody Fresh: we tried to get there attention for 12 years already
Nobody Fresh: were done waviing to them
Nobody Fresh: its appearant that they hate us
Nobody Fresh: good idea
Nobody Fresh: but no we canr
Nobody Fresh: cant
Nobody Fresh: because…
Nobody Fresh: ICP is ICP
Nobody Fresh: Nobody else is ever gonna catch on to us
Nobody Fresh: that was it
Nobody Fresh: we struggles and tried for all them years
Nobody Fresh: this last record’
Nobody Fresh: is just for who ever picks it up
Nobody Fresh: because
Nobody Fresh: who ever does
Nobody Fresh: will be so appauled
Nobody Fresh: they wont know what the fuck were talking about anyway
Nobody Fresh: Look
Nobody Fresh: not fuck them
Nobody Fresh: who knows
Nobody Fresh: maybe they’ll find the light in some other way
Nobody Fresh: but who cares if the dont
Nobody Fresh: For Hells Pit
Nobody Fresh: There will be
Nobody Fresh: 3 low budget horror, grewsome, bloody radio no radio explicit videos
Nobody Fresh: All sond on a DVD called ICP the FULL story, documentary on our who countdown and what it ment to juggalos
Nobody Fresh: Then there will be a Hells Pit tour, smaller clubs, flollowed by a big tour for September and October and then thats it
Nobody Fresh: Solo Time
Nobody Fresh: Smaller venues but 1000’s of them
Nobody Fresh: Man, on the final tours were hittin up everywhereNobody Fresh: BUT YALL DONT HEAR ME THOUGH
Nobody Fresh: ONE THINGNobody Fresh: LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: NEXT NINJA THAT TALKS GETS BOOTED I MEAN IT STARTING
Nobody Fresh: RIGHT
Nobody Fresh: NOW
Nobody Fresh: RIGHT
Nobody Fresh: NOW
Nobody Fresh: NEXT NINJA FALLS OUT
Nobody Fresh: ok just let me say one thing
Nobody Fresh: DONT GET BOOTED
Nobody Fresh: IM TELLIN YOU I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY
Nobody Fresh: OK
Nobody Fresh: ALL I WANNA SAY IS
Nobody Fresh: MAN, I FUCKIN LOVE YALL AND THANK YALL FOR LETTIN US INTO YOUR LIVES, AND BUMB YOUR SYSTEMS MAN, THATS ALL WE EVER WANTED TO DO. THANK YOU EVEN THE HATERS. THANK YOU ALL
Nobody Fresh: as for the future
Nobody Fresh: 3 things are for cirtian
Nobody Fresh: 3 THINGS
Nobody Fresh: LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: 1. Me and my mother fuckin brothers from day one, and until its all over and were dead, Me Alex And my dog Joey.. we will never stop making music, togeather. Weather its solo, togeather or whatever
Nobody Fresh: WE STAY TOGEATHER
Nobody Fresh: Number 2. Twiztid id Twiztid, there gonna do what they do, thats strictly on Twiztid and the deistions they make as a band, and if that means ni more Lotus, or Psychopathic, than please address questions to them.
Nobody Fresh: And Number 3…
Nobody Fresh: With Twiztid, millions of ninjas will leave… if Zug Leaves, with them houndreds of ninjas, will leave, but the bottem line is, ICP, mother fuckin Insane Clown Posse, aint never leavin. We’ll always be down, and always rep Juggalo
Nobody Fresh: and the hatchet
Nobody Fresh: for ever
Nobody Fresh: thats the only ONLY THING I can promis you all in 2004
Nobody Fresh: Im
Nobody Fresh: Im out this piece
Nobody Fresh: I love yall
Nobody Fresh: Much love you you and your holiday familys
Nobody Fresh: Peace and much clown love
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May 29, 2013
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March 8, 2013
11:28 am
September 4, 2012
fuck tha noise… a better question would b when did juggalos change? cuz tha could b the exact reason why J might not feel the same way he used to. If u expect j to b something different then he is ur nuts. even to this date I feel icp makes the music in their soul. I might not b wha u wanna hear but they put they still putt whas in them on tracks.
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