black rain is the only lotus album i’ve heard front to back…. just never got that into it. but Rydas on the other hand… now THAT’S a SUPER GROUP!! :P

Psyral Infection said
The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use. It all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory.

In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It’s a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations. It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It’s as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it’s proven, it becomes a law. That’s not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don’t promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.

In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There’s a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it’ll fall. It doesn’t say why. Then there’s the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton’s Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein’s Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can’t be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.

Just because it’s called a theory of gravity, doesn’t mean that it’s just a guess. It’s been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we’ve tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it’s real doesn’t mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.

Evolution is the same. There’s the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic change over generations) happens, just like gravity does. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations.

 

In terms of Magic, science cannot prove it because it is not observable. Science uses observation of the world and if something has no observable effect in the world then it cannot be proven by science. So, Yes, Magic may exist, but with no effects, it really does nothing. If it had real world effects then it could be observed in which case someone, out of the thousands that have tried, would have by now claimed the James Randi Million Dollar Prize.  

When you made this statement, did you know about quantum mechanics, quantum biology and quantum tunneling?

This was a fr3sh thread of the past to read…im curious to how yall feel nowadays about the lotus albums…now that your wiser and can look at the bigger picture, instead of connecting the dots.

I revisited the lotus albums this year…and by revisited, i mean listen to thoroughly.

TFTLP, Black Rain and TMWAaB are my favorite…Opaque is too dark for me to vibe with…most likely due to an extremely bad experience being kidnapped and fed lots of ecstacy.

Dark Lotus is all about the light…if you cant see that, then i suggest listening to TMWAaB and reading the booklet, and then goin back to the 1st two albums and really listen to the lyrics. The symbology of coming outta the mud and needing the (black) rain in order to grow and blossom into a beautiful flower is the basic concept.

When you really listen to TFTLP, its them talking about the “evils” trying to stop them from blossoming and becoming the light they strive/struggle to be…listen to “headache”, they say cut the head off the devil, amongst other things…and other songs on there like kcalb cigam and “something” are talking about the light.

From reading this thread i get the feeling you all were naive to what black magic really is…its not as dark as yall percieve…the symbology appears dark and wicked, cuz thats what yall been programmed to think…aliester Crowley, or however you spell his name, didnt think what he was talking about was evil…look into the true meanings of certain words, like “spells”…this shit would flip your wig

I truely think the dark lotus era is when violent j and jumpsteady became “awoke” or “aware”…when they were shown “the light”, just like the so called evils we call the “illuminati” of the music industry…the symbolism they decided to use is uncanny… in the printed words of “dark lotus” they stylized the A and O as alpha and omega, plus you can transition the cross into the “phi” symbol…not to mention “ark” letters are styled the same, meaning they are referencing the ark of the covenant or whatever that bible bullshit is talking about.

Not to mention they made 2017 the year of the juggalos and told us to make it about ourself and make a positive change in our own life…go ahead and look up the meaning of the number 17, your fucking mind will be blown.

I can go on and on, but at this point i will start rambling randomly, instead of constructively…so imma stop now.

P.s. when you listen to black rain in its entirety, it is describing the blossom/growing process of the lotus flower…that makes it a damn good album to me, even tho some songs beats and/or lyrics arent that great.

MDCL to all you lotus petals aka children of the lotus

this thread is proof that opinions can be false, haha.. wtf..

Why does violent j not wanna talk about the 1st lotus album…is it becuz once he is shown the light, he is not supposed to talk about it, only reference it…becuz those still asleep are supposed to figure it out on there own…its the true test of life and they can only throw symbolism at you, not tell you directly

SPOOKYtheFUNGI said
Why does violent j not wanna talk about the 1st lotus album…is it becuz once he is shown the light, he is not supposed to talk about it, only reference it…becuz those still asleep are supposed to figure it out on there own…its the true test of life and they can only throw symbolism at you, not tell you directly  

It’s just associated with a lot of bad memories for him. This is when they fell out with Mike, and he’s talked about how when he focused his dark energy it brought a lot of dark energy into his life or some other shit that’s really just pattern recognition gone awry.

Noah Fence said

It’s just associated with a lot of bad memories for him. This is when they fell out with Mike, and he’s talked about how when he focused his dark energy it brought a lot of dark energy into his life or some other shit that’s really just pattern recognition gone awry.  

Its ok to believe the info thats been givin to you, but i feel like im able to read between the lines, and I think there is much more to the story, than what he wants to express to us…ive connected alot of dots this year, and i think im close to the bigger picture…imma scorpio and i tend to look at things differently than whats put in front of me.

VJ is a good story teller, and becuz of that fact you shouldnt always believe what he says off wax, gnome sayin

The part where he mentions waking up to the lady with no face, he speaks of this stuff alot in his book, waking up unable to move and freaking out thinking he is dying, i can explain that

it’s called Sleep Paralysis, i deal with it all the time, it’s when your body falls asleep and you suddenly wake up before your body can realize you are awake, so, you can’t move your body at all, you can breath, but at a slower pace, and alot of times you hallucinate and it looks and feels extremly real, i’ve woke up to see my dead friend holding me down and tellinjg me not to move, creepily, this all occured during the time that there were break in’s happening in my area and a few attempts on my house earlier in the week, and it was like my friends ghost was telling me not to move because maybe people were outside or something, but it was like, a real life dream while being awake, it was weird, i closed my eyes a moment re-opened them and everything was fine, i got up and searched the entire house, nothing was broke, nobody was inside, i was alone, but i couldn’t sleep the rest of the night cuz that was the 1st time it ever happened to me so i legit thought ppl broke in or some shit, i couldn’t explain the guy that looked like my friend tho, my frienddead like, 5 years prior to that so it was just, so strange to me.it’s very scary the 1st few times it happens to you but once you learn what it is, you understand how to deal with it after awhile.

sometimes i wake up to see a demon lady in a rockin chair, or, giant bugs, it can last a few seconds, to a few hours, for me, lucily it’s only lasted 5-10 minutes at worst over time,