I’ve thought that for awhile too, why would you come here and comment on shit everyday and not sign up? It’s free. It’s not like it takes all day either, it takes about 1 minute. I’ve also noticed that they’re consistently the ones who start the most shit on here. Very valid points made on our mystery guests. That being said, I think Wonka69 is all of them.

Talk about dumb conspiracy theories LOL. Funny how when facts that are out in the public are presented, people ignore them. But those same people who scream conspiracy to facts will just make up dumb ones like this. “Anyone who doesn’t like ICP in 2013 is the same person!!!” lol. ICP apologists are hilarious. I tried signing up before and gave up because it was asking for a birth date that I couldn’t even enter. But I didn’t see the sign up button at the top right but now I did. Kept trying to from the main FLH front page in the posts themselves. Where it says “you must be logged in to post a comment”. Kept trying to sign up from there and it didn’t work.

Anyway down to business. Mike c you said a mouthful sir and you are correct in pretty much all you said. Well said. Well done.

Ill yes Psychopathic nickel and dimes pretty much everything they do. I would be here for hours if I listed all their shady tactics. I don’t just mean “making money”. But the fact they announce things as being free and then end up charging for them says it all. Yes J whores his family out. Are you blind and/or deaf? He made a music video for his kids, brings them on stage, puts them in his videos, we can’t escape Sugar Slam even if we wanted to. If you really think Billy makes the decisions for the label and not J, I don’t know what to tell you bro. Billy might handle the money and make the boring phone calls. But J makes the decisions. Always has except for a brief moment in time where he got off his own nuts and actually let other label mates give their two cents. But of course that couldn’t last.

As far as MDP sales, why wouldn’t Gathering sales be counted? It’s never stopped them before. It sold 9k less than BPB opening week. Even if it sold the exact same it’s a gigantic failure from what Psychopathic predicted. J’s on record saying it will be their biggest album yet. Yes, he said that. Fail. After all that publicity from the BPB era they couldn’t even gain one fan. If that doesn’t show how delusional J is, what will? Mike c you nailed it when you said dude has turned the juggalo scene into the hippies. It’s so gay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I…..iscography (ICP wikipedia discography page)

^Slum most of those are updated (except the Tempest troll) and for the older albums most are as of 2010. Someone here posted MDP being at 60k recently. I don’t know if it was legit or not. But I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it never even sells as much as what BPB is currently at. People bought in to the joker’s cards coming back and gave BPB a chance. The fact they didn’t gain any new fans for MDP says it all. ICP isn’t growing like they thought they would.

ICP has lyrically grown? lol There’s nothing on MDP that suggests their flow has evolved. Only evidence of devolved. Then listen to their guest tracks with Jack White, Abominationz, their last couple Hallowicked singles, J on the Psyphers. They’re sooooo terrible. Dude misses beats like half the time. Even on MDP with their 20+ takes there’s still times he misses the beat lol. His emotion is real sad to hear too because it sounds like he’s squealing and trying so hard to push out air to form his raps. What recent flow is better than anything in his past? Shangri-La caught a lot of shit at the time but at least J stepped his actual flow game up for that era. He was rapping like we never heard before. Nothing he’s spit recently has evolved from that. Everything he spits now is just a reminder that he was once good. “Hey didn’t this guy used to be a lot better than this? Yup”.

You still posted nothing proving what you said is true noobski… newbski?……….. The facts POST THE FUCKING FACTS. You wanna know why you can't? Because you are making up shit up that is conspiracy. The nickel and dimeing shit I explained that. A shirt or cd or whatever being $30 by the end of the show is they have less of that product but people still want it they'll pay more for it. I want to an Ill Bill show and they did that to an LCN shirt. I seen Slayer do that. And likely it's the people in charge of the merch doing it not the artist.

BPB on In Yo Face proof enough that they lyrically grown cause you won't hear any of those word on Milenko. MDP they have lyrics you won't hear on Riddle Box because they've grown.

but… we have completely different opinions on shit…

lol All I’ve pointed out is facts. You keep bringing up tour prices which I wasn’t thinking about when talking about nickel and dime. And it’s you who’s ignoring said facts.

In Yo Face is them growing lyrically? Am I in the Twilight Zone? J’s scratchy ass old man voice trying to sound young while somehow being LESS lyrical than his Inner City Posse days is quite impressive I will admit. Was it the 'pluto to your anus' line that really put you in deep thought like “man, this is some deep shit”?

Wow man…….Just wow

man all of u all sound like a bunch of bitches. icp still makes good music, imo. they will never sound like the 90's again. and yes they do not always make the best business decisions when it comes to the label but come most of these guys never graduated highschool. give em a fucking break, they are doing wt they want. theyve always done what they wanted.

twiztid will do just fine solo. they dont need to be signing artists or creating some label. they just need to focus on twiztid.