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November 4, 2016
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Old Mr Dangerous said

Switching things up on a remix album in an interesting fashion is too risque? Okay, then.

Not at all on a REMIX, but as Scruffy pointed out earlier, Specifically the 6th Jokers Card, Not having the innovator of the Dark Carnival sound behind the boards is like expecting pussy but you only get to the finger bang. It was the all mighty 6th…and it was basically left to a novice. So essentially, It was a Remix album.

Quite frankly I could give a fuck if you’ve been down since Joe was rapping in the karaoke machine or if you have “Big Daddy Sweets” tatted on your shit shooter. 

My point is ICP has a unique sound that only Mike Clark can provide. Everyone else behind the boards is just mimicking his patterns. Also he is a real producer as in structure of vocals,concept and he’s not afraid to tell them “No, that shits whack re do it.’ Picture Kuma or seven telling them that or Mike P for that matter!

I’ve been down since they first started promoting the first time in Texas ma’am. Does that make me better than you? No! Not what this arguments about BUT I and You being old heads know how ICP should sound v.s. the kids now who just accept what they give.

Get Mike Clark on the phone. Get some answers… Real answers. Scottie D can get a B.R. interview, This should be a cake walk.

 

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November 4, 2016
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Old Mr Dangerous said  
Simultaneously subtle and epic.   

with this, we are gettin closer to nailing it. 

thats a really good description, in fact.  but add ‘bangin’.    

The Ringmaster through the Great Milenko, and even Amazing Jeckel Brothers, while I still prefer The Wraith to the latter, those 2-4 albums are so fucking INSANE CLOWN POSSE that I simply can’t imagine anyone else producing them.   

you forgot death pop, tempest, bangpowboom, bizbiz, yada blah et cetera. 

So yes, I agree  

oh good. 

id hate for us to ever disagree about sumn, people might think we were bout to start beefin. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

November 4, 2016
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Regarding remix albums and how Juggalos that like “edm” ICP must be new, does anyone still fuck with the Hatchet Step album? That shit still plays regularly at my house. Especially the remix of Dead Body Man. It takes balls to remix a “classic” and it’s fuckin killer. It makes the song new again and hits just as hard, if not harder, than the original.

I was going to post something from it but apparently it isn’t on youtube. 

scruffy said

you forgot death pop, tempest, bangpowboom, bizbiz, yada blah et cetera. 

I’d say Tempest is some of the best work he had done in a long fuckin time. It sounds like a Bizzaar album all grown up. 

November 4, 2016
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I’d say Tempest is some of the best work he had done in a long fuckin time. It sounds like a Bizzaar album all grown up.    

another really good description. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

November 4, 2016
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I’d say F.T.F.O. is some of the best work he had done in a long fuckin time. It sounds like the F.O. album all grown up.  

Fixed!!!!! 

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November 4, 2016
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i can’t fux with tempest. I didn’t like that shit one bit. But I think mike goes above and beyond making a beat. He’s a lot more involved and that’s obvious. That was my main complaint with the wraith when it dropped was mike p just wouldn’t tell joe to calm the fuck down about his own ideas, some that simply didn’t work. MEC is a good filter. 

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November 4, 2016
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Karacalla said

CellE2057 said

I’d say F.T.F.O. is some of the best work he had done in a long fuckin time. It sounds like the F.O. album all grown up.  

Fixed!!!!! 

  

Eh, F.T.F.O came out when Mike E was going thru that weird everything sounds super polished and clean phase. I like the album but it needed a little more…something. Like, it sounded manufactured or some shit. I lack the musical vocabulary to explain it any better.

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CellE2057 said

Eh, F.T.F.O came out when Mike E was going thru that weird everything sounds super polished and clean phase. I like the album but it needed a little more…something. Like, it sounded manufactured or some shit. I lack the musical vocabulary to explain it any better.  

I understand. That grimey, Sampled driven sound was not there, or the in your face guitars.

I take it you didn’t like Death Pop because if that kind of “Clean” sound turns you off, TMDP most likely cut the power.lol.

Other than the intro and updated F.O. remake, It seems he just gave Shaggy a beat CD and said have fun for your solo.

My comments on ICP on EDM type beats kind of makes me a hypocrite. I say this because Mike Clark has been using dancehall sample packs for years. It started around AJB era.

The Tempest was just a weird era, Mike E Clark or not. The concept and floating around because the original 6 saga had come to a end made it odd. I only like 1 or 2 songs off of it. News at 6 O’clock being the jam.

Another Cool thing is that’s when ICP started doing the DJ packs. Acapellas,Instrumentals ect..ect..

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November 4, 2016
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The Tempest is excellent. Even the lesser tracks have appeal, or are someone else’s favorite.

Alley Rat, Growing Again, Haunted Bumps, News at 6 O Clock, What About Now?…. good stuff. I can’t remember any more right now. But I consider Growing Again one of their best leff field tracks. Completely original.

November 5, 2016
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Mike Clark?  he gonna stay with Kid Rock! he likes 2 gets paid!

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November 5, 2016
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Sorry im late to this thread and a lil naive, but who is mike clark.

November 5, 2016
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I really hope they bring MEC back into the mix. Ideally it would be for full albums like they used to, but if produced a handful of tracks here and there and shared the workload with Seven, Kuma, and Mike P that’d be cool too. I truly don’t like the use of Young Wicked for the most part and find ICP’s music to be the least inspired it’s ever been in the Missing Link era. 

Here’s the thing, Young Wicked is very talented. I could never say otherwise. Psychopathic leans on him a great deal to pump out material for ICP, Hoodoo, Blahzay, and whoever else at this point. He does the music, mixing, and does a whole lot of vocals and probably a good amount of writing in general. He cranks it all out, and it does sound good. For my personal opinion, his style and sound does not at all (for the most part) bring out the best in ICP. I’ve never cared for the “trap” style or dirty south beats in any artist, so it was much to my dismay hearing “Lost” and so many songs had that style. A lot of the beats sound basically the same, I hate the use of “chopping and screwing” and the shit loads of hi hats all over the place. And he does sing quite well and I appreciate his versatility, but, ICP’s use of YW’s vocals was way over done. They always had studio help with vocals with guys like Legs Diamond and Syn, which was great, but the use of YW is just too much. Also, gotta give him props for “Lost At The Carnival”, if he produced more shit like this we’d be all up on his dick. “Flamethrower” was pretty dope too, a good combo of YW’s style and weird ICP’ness. 

But there’s just something to be said about the magic of MEC working with ICP. MEC’s musical influences seem to be way more broader ranged than YW or anyone else they’ve worked with and he’s down to get nutty as fuck. Anyone ever listened to MEC’s Shocked Rhythms & (Damn Near) Speechless albums? There is some great shit on there, very unique. I’d shit my pants for ICP to do something with his “My House Is Haunted” beat from Vol. 1. I totally understand MEC doing his thing and choosing his path of who he works with and what he wants to do with his life, but, I know we’d all dig it for him to come back into the mix. 

Aside from MEC and YW, I do think Seven, Kuma come through with some cool shit. I think we all give mad props to the beat for “Phantoms” that Seven did. Kuma has had cool stuff too, I think he did “Red Moon Howl” which has an awesome vibe for a Hallowicked (or any ICP) song. Mike P is also very talented and he’s really come up with a bunch of cool shit for ICP and Zug Izland. One beat he produced that I feel is underrated as fuck is for “The Carousel” from the MML Outtakes. Overall, if the next ICP album had a mix of MEC, Seven, Kuma, and Mike P, I’d be pretty pumped. Even better would be all MEC. 

November 5, 2016
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I’ve never cared for the “trap” style or dirty south beats in any artist, so it was much to my dismay hearing “Lost” and so many songs had that style. A lot of the beats sound basically the same, I hate the use of “chopping and screwing” and the shit loads of hi hats all over the place

Ouch as a southern ninja that listens mainly to 90’s/early 00’s southern rap(outside of psychopathic/MNE) that stings. I was ecstatic when the KJC formed like voltron. Calling 3-6’s style “trap” I don’t get it I was listening ten plus years before that production style  got dubbed that gay ass name. 

In non MEC related news 14 year anniversary of Wraith. I remember walking into borders books/music in a icp shirt with Twiztid braids they(store clerk)took one look and pointed me to the end cap full of the 6th 

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Hypnotized Ninja said

Chevy2Dope said
I’ve never cared for the “trap” style or dirty south beats in any artist, so it was much to my dismay hearing “Lost” and so many songs had that style. A lot of the beats sound basically the same, I hate the use of “chopping and screwing” and the shit loads of hi hats all over the place

Ouch as a southern ninja that listens mainly to 90’s/early 00’s southern rap(outside of psychopathic/MNE) that stings. I was ecstatic when the KJC formed like voltron. Calling 3-6’s style “trap” I don’t get it I was listening ten plus years before that production style  got dubbed that gay ass name. 

Haha, well, there’s nothing wrong at all with enjoying that style of music. I was basically just explaining why I personally don’t care for much of YW’s production because that sort of style never did anything for me, ICP or not. 

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Hypnotized Ninja said

Chevy2Dope said
I’ve never cared for the “trap” style or dirty south beats in any artist, so it was much to my dismay hearing “Lost” and so many songs had that style. A lot of the beats sound basically the same, I hate the use of “chopping and screwing” and the shit loads of hi hats all over the place

Ouch as a southern ninja that listens mainly to 90’s/early 00’s southern rap(outside of psychopathic/MNE) that stings. I was ecstatic when the KJC formed like voltron. Calling 3-6’s style “trap” I don’t get it I was listening ten plus years before that production style  got dubbed that gay ass name. 

Nope! As a fellow southern ninja DJ Paul’s modern shit all sounds the same now. No diversity what so ever. Its just Trap/Drill beats with eerie synths. Totally different vibe from that 3-6 sound. He went to 90-95 bpm to doing all his shit in 140-160 bpm.

The first Da Mafia 6 mixtape was the only exception, because it heavily relied on samples. The official project was like one long song.

Juicy is on the opposite end of that spectrum. Pop…er…Trippy.

MEC should just do Jokers cards exclusively and all the others side projects.

The House of wax ep is so underated as an example of his work. The zipper was one track where the production and Shaggs lyrics were perfect together.

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Karacalla said

Hypnotized Ninja said

Chevy2Dope said
I’ve never cared for the “trap” style or dirty south beats in any artist, so it was much to my dismay hearing “Lost” and so many songs had that style. A lot of the beats sound basically the same, I hate the use of “chopping and screwing” and the shit loads of hi hats all over the place

Ouch as a southern ninja that listens mainly to 90’s/early 00’s southern rap(outside of psychopathic/MNE) that stings. I was ecstatic when the KJC formed like voltron. Calling 3-6’s style “trap” I don’t get it I was listening ten plus years before that production style  got dubbed that gay ass name. 

Nope! As a fellow southern ninja DJ Paul’s modern shit all sounds the same now. No diversity what so ever. Its just Trap/Drill beats with eerie synths. Totally different vibe from that 3-6 sound. He went to 90-95 bpm to doing all his shit in 140-160 bpm.

production styles vary here so its more than 3-6 style I bump alot of Texas and that varies in itself. And new age names i refuse to acknowledge bc im bitter middle aged ninja who just wont say trap. It reminds me of calling techno edm or dubstep nope techno don’t tell me bpm or bass difference  nonsense 

Those details and all are informative but I like Juicy and Pauls production now and than. And I’ve never been displeased with ICPs production choices only the fruity loops EP the calm that followed hells pit. Your opinions cool too.

November 6, 2016
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What happened to Mike E. Clark???

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November 6, 2016
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I heard they were dating j’s sister and got the boot.

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it’s not the dating! It’s the sexually transmitted disease!ninja

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