J said in an interview that 90s icp was grittier because they sucked and couldn’t make clean music. He views their music as pop music and he wants it to sound clean and crisp.

Honestly i don’t want an album that sounds exactly like the old shit. It won’t be as good no matter how hard they try. Even if they found old milenko beats that they thought were lost, it wouldn’t be the same because there’s an emotional attachment to the old shit that lifts it up to be better in our minds than it actually is.

You gotta learn to let go of expectations and ride with change.

Or get used to only bumping 20 year old music.

Who produced Immortal?

That track is bonkers from a production point of view. Sounds like the same sample as Gangstas Paradise chopped differently.

Yeah.  I hear Otis is currently hyping for these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JiV8ThY7Hs

Kunt and the Gang – Fucksticks

Mike E will be back as soon as Kid Rock gets tired of him, which considering how good the dude is at his job, probably won’t be for awhile. 

I use to have a preference over who produced them but the past few years have shit all over my preferences. Sometimes Seven does good work with em, sometimes he doesn’t, sometimes Young Wicked does, sometimes he doesn’t, etc. etc. Dunno what the “it” factor is for them but I don’t think it’s who’s producing them anymore.

Realistically it’s a million other boring things that all factor in. Did they get stuck in traffic on the way to the studio? They’re probably gonna end up writing more pissed off songs. Listened to the shitty local rap station in the car? They’re probably gonna write a “trap” song then. 

Karacalla said
You would think the ? Would get brought up in interviews. 

Then again we would probably get the Violent J politician answer of answering a question so vaguely it does not really get answered.

How about an interview with MEC, Can’t remember the last time I’ve seen one with him. Kid rocks tour ended in scruffy’s moms bed room  a couple months back so like Scruffys mom, his scheduled should be wide open.

Food for thought.  

Scruffy your rebuttal 

Kuma’s remixes off of The Wraith are some of the best highlights of the entire album(s). Completely different style for ICP that actually blends well.

I like Kuma’s shit. 

Actually, after listening to all of the (actually very few) producers that worked with ICP over time, I don’t think any of them are TERRIBLE. They wouldn’t produce their shit if they sucked.

I talked shit on Otis for years, and still do actually, but he impressed me quite a bit with production and some choruses on The Missing Links. He is a competent producer.

scruffy said

Old Mr Dangerous said
Kuma’s remixes off of The Wraith are some of the best highlights of the entire album(s). Completely different style for ICP that actually blends well.

dont have, aint heard em in a while.  so, dunno who did what, except the mec cuts.  *

I like Kuma’s shit. 

for the most part, so do i.  even the stuff i dont like isnt bad, really, i just dont like it. 

Actually, after listening to all of the (actually very few) producers that worked with ICP over time, I don’t think any of them are TERRIBLE. They wouldn’t produce their shit if they sucked.

chuck miller was terrible, and sucked. 

who else…?  bound to be more.  most have had a track or two that was terrible, but i dont think thats what youre gettin at. 

I talked shit on Otis for years, and still do actually, but he impressed me quite a bit with production and some choruses on The Missing Links. He is a competent producer.  

im not sure i can say i was ‘impressed’, so much as…  dunno…  not bothered by it, maybe?  in some instances. 

so far, though, i thought he was most impressive as hoodoos backup singer.  that was great. 

 

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ya know what id really like to see?  mike clark remixes for the rest of the wraith stuff.  especially an mec unveiling. 

as well as basicly anything else he felt like remixing. 

murder mix 3 would be nice, as well.  but im just distracting myself, at this point.   

I always thought part of the reason of relasing a new Wraith album with a good bunch of it “re-produced” by MEC was to satiate the many folks who were upset at his absence from THE SIXTH FUCKING JOKERS CARD!! As much as I love both Wraiths, and I really do on an emotional level, I still think that fuck, MEC did ALMOST ALL OF THE FIRST FIVE ALBUMS +! It was a weird turning point. 

Scruffol, chill… just know that in many countless multiverses, The Wraith was made with MEC instead of MP.

Shit, in some multiverses, there are Wraiths done with a teenaged, pimply Otis behind the boards.