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11:47 am
March 31, 2012
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chops said:
Eminem was a backpack rapper so of course he was lyrical, that's his gimmick. I'm sure if madrox sat down with a thesaurus and dictionary he could drop some lyrical shit too. However madrox is a horror rapper that is his gimmick. Sorry em can't tough jamie with horror shit. Nothing against em but madrox is more diverse and still puts out good shit where as em is pretty boring and wack these days
lol i disagree but thats your personal preference & opinion so its all good… & to quote em “its not a gimmick its an image i live it!” haha how is being lyrical a gimmick? you can be lyrical & do horror shit, gangsta shit, nerd shit whatever…
also this is one of the dopest horror tracks ever made (imo of course).. mostly cuz of the lyricism…
12:57 pm
While I agree eminem is a great lyricist, I haven’t thought much of any release of his since the early 2000’s. Lyrics aren’t everything.
1:28 pm
March 31, 2012
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JuggaloJ said:
Lyrics aren't everything.
of course they aren't but its definitely a major factor for me to get into someone..
simple shit<<<<<
2:52 pm
December 18, 2012
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Well would a singer be considered bad if they only sang simple words. Idk singing is a skill. Is rapping? I really don’t know, writing is a skill, but is saying words in poem form a skill??? Think about it. Really what is rthe skill factor. Writing the lyrics and songs or saying the words??
4:51 pm
March 31, 2012
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chops said:
Well would a singer be considered bad if they only sang simple words. Idk singing is a skill. Is rapping? I really don't know, writing is a skill, but is saying words in poem form a skill??? Think about it. Really what is rthe skill factor. Writing the lyrics and songs or saying the words??
theres skill in both Writing the lyrics and songs & saying the words.. anyone can rhyme cat/hat/bat.. it takes skill to rhyme multiple syllables & create punchlines.. among other things.. writing a great song is a different skill (for example) you need a catchy hook, great beat, lyrics cohesive with the song topic… like in singing just “saying the words” isnt impressive you have to hit high notes.. while in rap you have to have a bouncy flow or at least not sound monotone like youre just reading your shit… so no a singer can sing simple lyrics cuz their talent is hitting high notes not songwriting.. a rapper has to be more well rounded in multiple aspects… so yeah the skill factor in rapping is lyricism like rhyming multiple syllables & create punchlines (look at soulja boy vs eminem) as well as flow.. (look at danny k vs royce da 5'9)
4:53 pm
Neither of which AMB can do (bringing this back on subject lol)
5:03 pm
March 31, 2012
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loJuggaloJ said:
Neither of which AMB can do (bringing this back on subject lol)
lol otis been more lyrical than your average cat since 03.. bonez may have developed his flow 1st but they both have great flow now.. with twiztid now gone no one on psy has a better flow than them & even you gotta admit it..
5:13 pm
I just listened to that song. Prolly the best shit iv ever heard from them. Wasn’t mind blowing, but still pretty cool. And yes there were nice lyrics and flow. But I’d deff say this particular track (wherever it came from) is a rare exception. I’ll always give credit where it’s due. Iv seen them live plenty of times as opening acts, they have great energy. And Iv personlly kicked it with them once, they were cool ass ninjas, they almost smacked this one kid up for tryin to hate on em. Funny shit. Its just I can’t stand their music. It’s just…not good.
5:27 pm
March 31, 2012
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the_almighty_smack said:
lets keep it real you burnt 99% of your braincells
AMB?? the axe murder boyz?? fathered 99% of juggalo rappers???
WOW
thats the dumbest thing I ever read woudent you think that ICP fathered 99% of those juggalo rappers and AMB does not even represent 1% of that population.
anyways if you think that AMB fathered 99% of juggalo rappers you have major problem's with how you see things cause that's pretty dumb.
lol you missed my point homie… i already addressed this.. read through a thread once in awhile..
The Warlock said:
icp/twiztid are definitely the primary inspiration for all these cats.. but imo it was amb & their success that really that influenced all these kids to attempt to pick up the mic..
how can people miss my point?? & just respond with the obvious…
the_almighty_smack said:
they won cause they gave away 100's of copies of their CD t for free at the gathering basicaly buying their win.
“basicaly” great promotion if they didnt win… lol im sure more than 100 people voted..
5:31 pm
March 31, 2012
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JuggaloJ said:
Its just I can't stand their music. It's just…not good.
haha fo sho thats your opinion & thats cool.. doesnt mean theyre wack tho.. i didnt like mdp AT ALL but im not gonna say its wack just cuz it wasnt for me..
7:55 pm
May 10, 2012
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Medicine bag is a great album, could use better hooks on many songs…repeating the same line 3 or 4 times gets annoying…and remember Violent J came up with the name Twiztid…..
8:39 pm
April 13, 2012
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only 300 people voted. most juggs. kept the coin. alotta of u people r funny ! W%W !
K R U S H - K I L L - D E S T R O Y !
6:08 pm
May 10, 2012
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Madrox’s first verse on nightmares IMO is much better then demon inside
3:25 pm
September 18, 2012
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I have to address certain things I read in here.
First off, there is a way to measure who is a better lyricist to a point, who ever comes up with the most unique and mind blowing rhymes with the multi syllable rhyming shit. This doesn't make artists better than other artists, but it is a talent that can be measured to a point. The way they flow it is opinion, but the actually lyricism can be measured to a point. With that, Amb is generally better than ICP, but when Violent J goes full out lyrical like in his song with afro man and shit, he out does anything I've heard from AMB. Violent J has done that thing where you make the whole bars rhyme, I have never heard AMB do that ever.
Yes, rapping is a talent. You have to use the right Syntax and know exactly how to say things. You have to do word painting, you have to rap on beat to the perfect rhythm. Trust me, it's harder than it sounds. Multi syllable rhyming, coming up with different rhymes, some rappers even go as far as only using a certain number of syllables per bar to make the whole thing flow perfectly. Some rappers sing a little bit. Knowing how to use your voice. I mean, there are many aspects to rapping than just rhyming. Oh, making your shit actually make sense too.
You don't need a fucking dictionary to be lyrical, and I don't think I've ever heard Eminem rap a word above a Jr. high grade level. I'm pretty sure that Eminem's vocabulary is not any more complex than Jamie's.
And I have to say, one reason I can think of why people don't like AMB is because they are kind of generic. They are the generic white boy (even though they aren't white) thug rappers that we hear in so many artist. I honesty don't like that generic sound, but for some reason I still like AMB. Something about them sets them apart from that generalization for me. That stereotypical juggalo style they do is the reason why I don't understand why so many juggalos hate them. It's not like that these juggalos just dislike them, I see a bunch of juggalos that really loath them.
3:41 pm
December 3, 2012
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I agree wholeheartedly for the most part…My thing is an emcee is more than just his lyrics. Like you said there is alot that goes into account when it comes to rapping.
And me personally I really did want to like amb. I would force myself to listen to blood in blood out thinking it would grow on me. It never did and yes it sounded generic. And the first song I heard by them was that “old girl” song and is such a blatant rip off of icp's style so that didn't help matters.
I never liked esham a whole lot but at least he has his own style, same goes for blaze twiztid and boondox. They have a unique sound that sets them apart and I just never saw that in amb….
So it's not like I was straight up on some hater shit. I have reasons that have nothing to do with jealousy why I don't like them
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
3:54 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
First off, there is a way to measure who is a better lyricist to a point, who ever comes up with the most unique and mind blowing rhymes with the multi syllable rhyming shit. This doesn't make artists better than other artists, but it is a talent that can be measured to a point. The way they flow it is opinion, but the actually lyricism can be measured to a point.
i disagree with both of those statements.. someone who's very lyrical is a better emcee than someone who isnt.. doesnt necessarily mean they can make better music or songs it just means theyre more talented at the craft.. also i dont think theres nearly as much up for debate with flow than lyricism… overall delivery/vocal tone yeah but not flow itself..
Lucem Ferre said:
You don't need a fucking dictionary to be lyrical, and I don't think I've ever heard Eminem rap a word above a Jr. high grade level. I'm pretty sure that Eminem's vocabulary is not any more complex than Jamie's.
have you heard “Infinite”?? i dont know them personally so i wouldnt know who has a more extensive vocab but based on both of their bodies of work Em's definitely ahead of him..
4:47 pm
September 18, 2012
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The Warlock said:
i disagree with both of those statements.. someone who's very lyrical is a better emcee than someone who isnt.. doesnt necessarily mean they can make better music or songs it just means theyre more talented at the craft.. also i dont think theres nearly as much up for debate with flow than lyricism… overall delivery/vocal tone yeah but not flow itself..
I never said anything about emcee's, I said artists. Somebody who isn't as lyrical isn't a better artist. They aren't a better emcee either. There are two basic things that make you an emcee, how well your lyrics are, and how well you control the crowd. Flow is the rhythm of your rhymes. You can measure it to an extent but for the most part it's all opinion. A lot of people don't like the flow Tech N9ne uses. A lot of people do.
have you heard “Infinite”?? i dont know them personally so i wouldnt know who has a more extensive vocab but based on both of their bodies of work Em's definitely ahead of him..
Can you name a word that he uses that seems a bit more sophisticated than any word used by Jamie? I've heard Twiztid actually use words that were above the average American vocabulary. Jamie Madrox used the word facsimulated, which isn't a real word but it comes from the word facsimile which means to make an exact copy of.
“No individuality more clones on the production line
Manufacturing faximilated rhymes for the twelfth time”
5:11 pm
March 31, 2012
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Lucem Ferre said:
I never said anything about emcee's, I said artists. Somebody who isn't as lyrical isn't a better artist. They aren't a better emcee either.
well what the fuck ive been talkin about emcees this whole time… & i know.. thats what i said.. haha well not really but haha
Lucem Ferre said:
I've heard Twiztid actually use words that were above the average American vocabulary. Jamie Madrox used the word facsimulated, which isn't a real word
lol.. that aint even a word so technically everything hes said is more sophisticated.. haha like i said tho listen to that song..
Lucem Ferre said:
Flow is the rhythm of your rhymes. You can measure it to an extent but for the most part it's all opinion. A lot of people don't like the flow Tech N9ne uses. A lot of people do.
even the people who dont like it cant deny that he has it in spades tho.. which was my point..
5:22 pm
December 3, 2012
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You guys wanna talk about vocab look at fucking prozak
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
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