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1:58 pm
March 12, 2012
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Over the last couple of days I have been watching over the entire juggalo community. I have seen sides get chosen and as an OG Juggalo down 22 years it breaks my heart to see this. 4 years ago I predicted this when twiztid got mad over a simple mishap that if handled a little more properly could have been fixed but instead left to do their own thing. Now don’t get it twisted. I am not taking any sides in this pointless war and I wish some of these Los and lettes would do the same. I am not mad that mne turned down the march and free concert. If they wanna publicly admit to being sellouts and would rather chase the cash that’s on them. You got families to feed. I am more mad at Otis Garcia than anybody else cause once upon a time otis and I were cool. We met at the old FLH shout out board back in the 2000s. I liked ambs early stuff. I never once thought they were a twiztid ripoff, now a bone thugs ripoff? Yes, be it a cheap 5th rate knockoff lol. Anyways. What I am trying to say is I wonder where the fuck the family went? We were all cool til I saw subliminal disses on twitter. And again it’s just sad to see how things are going. I saw this same bullshit during the 2016 presidential election where ppl were picking sides and ending friendships (even family members hating eachother) all because of sides. I am making this post as a message to every juggalo, juggalette, ninja, and ninjette. Right now is not the time to be fighting. No matter the situation. It’s not worth it. Only poseurs fight over bullshit like this. Think about it. I also think yesterday’s disses between g mo see and Spanish side is gonna end badly. And why? Cause if gangsta shit gets involved. Somebody gets killed. Don’t believe me? In just a month from now we’re going to be passing the 20th anniversary of the death of Christiper Wallace aka the Notorious B.I.G. so we all need to open up our minds and come together more than ever… think about it. #FuckYourJuggaloCivilWar
2:17 pm
January 4, 2017
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The beef should have never went public and to me twiztid has done enough to where they can decline the invitation to the march
2:45 pm
January 6, 2017
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there was not any real issues that the left psy UNTIL icp started saying shit
2:49 pm
June 26, 2014
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Shit’s funny to me. Stand up or man up. I wanna see war.
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SoundWavE3:05 pm
October 30, 2013
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Sorry… it’s totally an easy one but… had to be done…
“What we’ve got here is… failure to communicate.
…Some men… you just can’t reach…
So… you get what we had here last week!Which is the way he wants it! Well… he gets it!
An’ I don’t like it… any more, than you men…”
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
You’re power hungry sellin’ soldiers in a “human grocery store”
Ain’t that fresh?
An’ I don’t need your civil war…!
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4:00 pm
December 11, 2016
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” juggalo, juggalette, ninja, and ninjette ” there should be no difference between a juggalo and ninja… ICP started saying Ninja in the way juggalo’s use ninja today. These should be no ” / ” between the two. That’s where the divide comes in if there’s a separation between Juggalo (Psychopathic) and Ninja (MNE) When to me they meant almost the same thing… It might be in my head, but can’t help but notice Twiztid, Blaze Boondox and them don’t use the word “Juggalo” or shout that out at all or like they used to. At one point when Boondox first left he tweeted “Fuck anything juggalo related or has anything to do with juggalos, enough with this clown shit.” Something like that look it up..
Instead they constantly say “Fam” but what Family are they talking about ??? They leave out “JUGGALO” Family. Otherwise family to me means another word for FAN ! They still say family but its starting to seem bogus to me just to keep fans, win over juggalos and sell records.
Twiztid knows that most, like myself feel certain way about MNE and Twiztid but will still buy the album anyway which I will. Once the new album drops soon you will see way more people jump aboard the MNE band wagon and start saying Psychopathic is dead, ICP washed up ect.
I hate the divide as well, but had Twiztid still had Psychopathic and ICPs back regardless of the new label and worked like A TEAM!!! The divide wouldn’t be as bad.. But they took all their artists, ABK could be next, they took ungrateful side shots, shown little respect and the Young Wicked incident is the cherry on top of everything.
Psychopathic/MNE could of been a camp together… Twiztid drew that line by being the way they are after they left.
If anybody remembers the “G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath” era where Dr. Dre, Eminem and 50 Cent were all on one label but three labels within one that all worked together, supported each other and backed each other in beefs. Teamwork on every album. It was a camp that couldn’t be fucked with.. Why can’t Psychopathic and MNE work together like that.
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Deiko174:03 pm
February 5, 2016
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Yea it sucks, but I would rather have it addressed than everybody pretending things are alright backstage. “All these fake people saying hi to one another, then they sit around and talk shit to each other”. Twiztid has made a lot of mistakes in the last 3 years and we can’t just ignore it. I for one don’t appreciate an artist leeching off of ICP and using juggalos to boost sales but not being there for the march to rep the fam they claim to love. Those responses on twitter just show how this is all a business to twiztid, which is fine, but it ain’t juggalo. We aren’t fam to them, we are a target audience and they don’t want to lose a penny over us. ICP continues to lose money by fighting the FBI because they love us and will stand up against this BS.
I don’t hate ninjas who don’t want to confront this shit but I am done supporting MNE and Twiztid in the future. I will always love the memories they have given me and will always hold their music close, but they are wack MF and I don’t care what they do anymore.
In a nutshell, I love every juggalo regardless of what side they are on, but MNE can fuck the fuck off. If you still 100% down with them, cool, keep digging what you love. There’s no civil war, just a lot of juggalos who are waking up to how stale twiztid has been and have had enough.
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April 15, 2013
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January 6, 2017
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there was no divide when they first left psy icp and twizitd said everything was cool and that lotus and ryders was still going be made. when blaze left he talked about j making him redo “last on dead street” which became gang rags. they can work together it just icp is having a bitch fit over their inability to keep their artists happy
4:40 pm
September 18, 2012
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Deiko17 said
Yea it sucks, but I would rather have it addressed than everybody pretending things are alright backstage. “All these fake people saying hi to one another, then they sit around and talk shit to each other”. Twiztid has made a lot of mistakes in the last 3 years and we can’t just ignore it.
What mistakes?
I for one don’t appreciate an artist leeching off of ICP and using juggalos to boost sales but not being there for the march to rep the fam they claim to love.
I think they’ve done enough to earn the right to not be considered leeching. And I’ve yet to get a solid answer as to what the march will accomplish.
Those responses on twitter just show how this is all a business to twiztid, which is fine, but it ain’t juggalo.
So when ICP sells you an album it ain’t juggalo? Or when anybody strives for success it ain’t juggalo? Because giving you free shit is what makes them juggalo?
We aren’t fam to them, we are a target audience and they don’t want to lose a penny over us.
They’ve done free shows for juggalos before. This isn’t about the money. If it was about not wanting to lose a penny they would do the march instead of doing something they know has the potential to lose them a lot of fans.
ICP continues to lose money by fighting the FBI because they love us and will stand up against this BS.
No, they actually don’t. Ever since the ACLU has stepped in the ACLU has been taking care of most of it.
I don’t hate ninjas who don’t want to confront this shit but I am done supporting MNE and Twiztid in the future.
Okay, so you never really were a fan of Twiztid in the first place.
I will always love the memories they have given me and will always hold their music close, but they are wack MF and I don’t care what they do anymore.
You obviously do care.
In a nutshell, I love every juggalo regardless of what side they are on, but MNE can fuck the fuck off. If you still 100% down with them, cool, keep digging what you love. There’s no civil war, just a lot of juggalos who are waking up to how stale twiztid has been and have had enough.
That’s funny, I’ve heard people say the same shit about Psy for years. I consider the fact that they even humble themselves before fans or that they do try to do all this extra stuff every once in a while for fans is more than what most artists will do. Seems like juggalos get pissed when these things aren’t free. Pair that with them declining the march and all of a sudden all the dope shit they have done is forgotten. Okay. If it really was family then you wouldn’t be so quick to turn your back. But it’s not a family. It’s a business that spoils it’s audience.
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5:11 pm
September 28, 2014
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SoundWavE said
there was no divide when they first left psy icp and twizitd said everything was cool and that lotus and ryders was still going be made. when blaze left he talked about j making him redo “last on dead street” which became gang rags. they can work together it just icp is having a bitch fit over their inability to keep their artists happy
There’s been a divide since 2003 when twiztid tried to leave the first time. Then Tom dubb ran off with all their money so they had to come back and act like everything was cool until the timing and money was right again.
5:21 pm
July 28, 2016
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I don’t have a problem with mne and hope shit calms down but it kinda bugs me when they tag shit like #onefamily and #famlove but won’t tag shit #juggalo. If you can’t even say juggalo then i dunno. Twiztid keeps telling people to step off. Maybe they should take that advice.
They could go the tech path and scream juggalo to us but not say it anywhere else. Play the gathering. Be cool but in interviews be like we love juggalos but we ain’t juggalos. If that’s what they really want.
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5:24 pm
November 29, 2014
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InSainn said
There’s been a divide since 2003 when twiztid tried to leave the first time. Then Tom dubb ran off with all their money so they had to come back and act like everything was cool until the timing and money was right again.
What’s the story about when they first tried to leave PSY?? Not familiar with it, what happened???
5:41 pm
September 18, 2012
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Noah Fence said
I don’t have a problem with mne and hope shit calms down but it kinda bugs me when they tag shit like #onefamily and #famlove but won’t tag shit #juggalo. If you can’t even say juggalo then i dunno. Twiztid keeps telling people to step off. Maybe they should take that advice.They could go the tech path and scream juggalo to us but not say it anywhere else. Play the gathering. Be cool but in interviews be like we love juggalos but we ain’t juggalos. If that’s what they really want.
Tech has shouted out juggalos in plenty of interviews actually.
Thing about it is, when they do say juggalo it’s considered them leeching off of ICP. When they don’t say juggalo it’s considered turning their backs on the people that made them. Yall are just looking for reasons to hate. All these artists have done more than enough to show their loyalty but the same is not done in return.
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5:43 pm
September 18, 2012
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Hawley said
What’s the story about when they first tried to leave PSY?? Not familiar with it, what happened???
Nothing really, just the same shit. Wanted to get their own thing going. It’s not like they came running back pretending everything was cool. Especially considering that when they first planned on leaving Violent J posted on the hotline about how everything is still cool between the two.
5:45 pm
September 28, 2014
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Hawley said
What’s the story about when they first tried to leave PSY?? Not familiar with it, what happened???
Basically, their plan was to bounce right after The Green Book dropped (go listen to the album again, the word juggalo isn’t said once) and start Majik Records with Blaze (this was the same time that Blaze “retired” and became Colton Grundy, which eventually just became an album title when they ended up staying). Tom Dubb from Psychopathic was their manager and he was leaving with them but then he took all the money Twiztid had to start the label and disappeared. Suddenly, Twiztid was staying with Psychopathic and everything was cool and they went back to saying juggalo in their music but, at least for me, you could tell it was just a matter of time before they’d leave again. In between that time I feel they started planting seeds of resentment with the other artists who came along. I think it also has alot to do with why Twiztid didn’t like AMB. I think maybe ICP knew eventually Twiztid would leave and would need to find someone to fill the hole. Obviously, some of that is speculation but the part about them planning to leave to start Majik Records is a fact. One Twiztid will never admit to but at the time everyone knew it.
5:51 pm
September 18, 2012
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You think a lot of why Twiztid tried to leave back in 03 has to do with a rap group nobody had even heard of until 06? You think everybody that has ever had a problem with Psy only had a problem because Twiztid was spreading propaganda behind the scenes? Wow.
6:09 pm
January 8, 2017
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InSainn said
Basically, their plan was to bounce right after The Green Book dropped (go listen to the album again, the word juggalo isn’t said once) and start Majik Records with Blaze (this was the same time that Blaze “retired” and became Colton Grundy, which eventually just became an album title when they ended up staying). Tom Dubb from Psychopathic was their manager and he was leaving with them but then he took all the money Twiztid had to start the label and disappeared. Suddenly, Twiztid was staying with Psychopathic and everything was cool and they went back to saying juggalo in their music but, at least for me, you could tell it was just a matter of time before they’d leave again. In between that time I feel they started planting seeds of resentment with the other artists who came along. I think it also has alot to do with why Twiztid didn’t like AMB. I think maybe ICP knew eventually Twiztid would leave and would need to find someone to fill the hole. Obviously, some of that is speculation but the part about them planning to leave to start Majik Records is a fact. One Twiztid will never admit to but at the time everyone knew it.
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July 28, 2016
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King Lucem Ferre said
Tech has shouted out juggalos in plenty of interviews actually.
Thing about it is, when they do say juggalo it’s considered them leeching off of ICP. When they don’t say juggalo it’s considered turning their backs on the people that made them. Yall are just looking for reasons to hate. All these artists have done more than enough to show their loyalty but the same is not done in return.
Tech does it when he is being interviewed by juggalos. Most of the time he doesn’t. And that’s cool. His new album doesn’t mention juggalos and it is easily my favorite thing he has dropped in years.
I don’t think twiztid have “leeched” off anybody. They were given a chance and j shoved them in our face until they could stand on their own same way he tried to do with young wicked. Only an idiot would reject that and they aren’t idiots.
I also didn’t say they turned their backs on anybody. I simply said that if they don’t want the name juggalo that’s cool. If they do, it’s odd that their campaign doesn’t use it.
I have no loyalty to twiztid because they mean less than nothing to me. I haven’t bought an album from them in like 12 years. I think I’m going to get the new one though. Haven’t decided.
My point is though that if they wanna be juggalos they should be juggalos. If they wanna be like you and be all we ain’t juggalos we just like some juggalos and wanna be part of that scene then fine.
If it were up to me, which thank satan it isn’t, tech and twiztid would fully embrace the identity. Especially when it comes to people talking down on us. Like that recent interview where tech was like oh yeah gotj they busted a train on drug bridge shit was cray cray.
Twiztid are far better about it than tech but I’m just sayin that they aren’t saying it now, while talking about this rift in the community. How can you say ONE FAMILY without saying juggalo?
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6:43 pm
January 8, 2017
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Do you even really know, I mean, you haven’t bought their shit in a DOZEN years!
They do rep the juggalo fam, strong to this day. In their music, on social media…. Hell last show I went to (last year) was called the Juggalo Invasion Tour. They still mention juggalos all over the place.
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