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January 8, 2017
11:23 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said

Type in all caps all you want, but I assure you that even with shitty spending habits Young Wicked should be able to afford an apartment. Especially when selling music, touring, being the main producer and engineer. He should have no problems with money. According to them, he was also sober. So no, that’s a shitty excuse to cover for Psy, and also requires you to ignore every other artist out there from Psy that felt jaded financially.

Then lets repeat the “If he really had money problems then why hasn’t he said anything? Why didn’t he leave?” He just fucking did. And you assume he never talked with anybody from Psy about it. I can’t confirm that, but I personally doubt it. Because even though he should be able to afford his own place through all the work he was putting in, I don’t think that was the reason why he left. I think he left because he is a cowardly fuck boy.

Now, if Young Wicked really was that much of a mess and leech on Psy then why would they deal with it for so long? 3 years of him getting all this money and spending it like shit? You don’t think they would have dropped his ass if he was really this irresponsible? They already did it once. So if he really was a shitty spender you know they would have no problem dropping him again. They would not be putting all their faith and effort into a guy who can’t even afford his own apartment because of shitty spending habits. Quit desperately defending Psy and think on it.

Facts. Young Wicked was signed to a label that doesn’t deal with irresponsible artists. He put in all of this work and didn’t have his own place to stay. Plenty of past artists have complained about money problems with Psy already.  

I love you, man. But this is more malarky than I can fathom right now.

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January 8, 2017
11:30 pm
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Old Mr Dangerous said

I love you, man. But this is more malarky than I can fathom right now.  

But it’s only slightly malarky compared to the idea that he couldn’t afford a cheap ass apartment because off his spending habits.

The only malarky is assuming that he couldn’t afford it when perhaps he just didn’t want to or something.

Ehh, these semantics don’t even matter to the point.

 

I don’t even know my point… it’s something along the lines of Twiztid aren’t total pieces of shit, don’t jump to conclusions and hate because whoop whoop family don’t charge for a show or something. Ahh, what ever, hate them. Not like they are losing much.

January 8, 2017
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We’ve spent way too much time thinking about Young Wicked’s financial situation and business decisions than what’s healthy for a human being.

January 8, 2017
11:37 pm
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hey, lucem… 

why do you care sooooooooo very much? 

 

i mean, at this point…  i dunno. 

go back and read your last forty posts. 

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January 8, 2017
11:39 pm
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scruffy said
hey, lucem… 

why do you care sooooooooo very much? 

 

i mean, at this point…  i dunno. 

go back and read your last forty posts.   

Shut up!

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January 8, 2017
11:43 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said

I remember ABK, Lavel and Esham all dissing Psy right after they left. I remember the reason they left was over some money. It’s always over some bitch ass money.  

Lavel is an enigma. I wish I heard that rare ass Mr. Heart solo album he was gonna drop. He put snippets on his site for only 1 day, then he took them down and the album never surfaced. Diamond Cutz 1 and 2 came out, and that was the last we ever heard of him. I remember his daughter died in a car crash and he turned Muslim.

Oh shit, the snippets have leaked online!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ymsV6dKmI

January 8, 2017
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January 9, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said

Noah Fence said
 There’s no money in MUSIC  anymore not just the scene. 

Nobody is saying they own tech, just that his love for juggalos is inconsistent which is fine.   

Yeah, inconsistent meaning he’s not constantly talking about juggalos all the time and stroking their cocks. Yet, I’ve never heard him ever talk bad on juggalos, always has good things to say.

 

Edit: If there is no money to make in music then Tech wouldn’t be on the forbes list.  

You’re right. The music industry is booming and recording contracts are all puppies and rainbows and promises of wealth. Also when a label fails to live up to their end artists beef with vaguebook posts instead of suing for the money they are owed. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

January 9, 2017
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How much can an apartment in Detroit cost? I mean you can buy a house for like $2. The only place with an even remotely similar amount of abandoned buildings in the US is St Louis. 

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January 9, 2017
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Noah Fence said  
… instead of suing for the money they are owed.     

mufuckas who mow lawns or build sheds for cash can do it.  maybe otis should give it a try. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 9, 2017
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You’re talking about a community that throws rocks at musicians they don’t enjoy…

January 9, 2017
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and each other. 

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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 9, 2017
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Noah Fence said

You’re right. The music industry is booming and recording contracts are all puppies and rainbows and promises of wealth. Also when a label fails to live up to their end artists beef with vaguebook posts instead of suing for the money they are owed.   

Dude, for someone who is so for the little guy, you seem very reluctant to admit that record companies LOVE to fuck people over. ICP talked about being dicked around by labels themselves. It happens ALL the time. 

 

If Young Wicked sued, do you honestly think he would be able to afford a lawyer that can compare to what Psy can put up? 

I am pretty sure we can all admit what YW did was fucked up and low, but are you seriously unwilling to admit that there is SOMETHING going on with Psy? There’s a reason nearly everyone who has left the label has had something negative to say. This isn’t the case with Strange Music, Rhymesayers, or even Suburban Noize (KmK aside). Why do you think that is? J has become what he used to hate. Violent JJ is the type of kid J used to talk about stomping out. 

January 9, 2017
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Nowhere did I say that psy is perf. Nowhere did I say they aren’t doing anything wrong. I’m sure it can be real frustrating working for them. Especially knowing there’s no real path for promotion. 

I just think it’s funny that people go so hard at them after kicking it for a long ass time. And they talk all this shit about psy not paying them but they do nothing about it. 

If you worked for someone and they owed you money, you would go after it. If they owed you money per your contract, it would be easy peasy to prove. If you can’t find a lawyer put them on blast by showing people your contract and your taxes. Do something more than talk shit at a show and make vaguebook bullshit. And if the contracts are bunk, don’t sign them. 

Put up or shut up. Otis has a very clear motive to be claiming that psy cut him short: so he doesn’t look like the bad guy. 

Esham was on hard drugs and as acting a bitch. 

ABK thought money wasn’t right and came right the fuck back.

Twiztid got tired of being treated like second best. 

I bet working for your homies and their homies and family gets old as fuck after 20 years. 

I’m sure some of their complaints are legit.

I ain’t saying that they owe icp / psy their entire lives or that they shouldn’t have left. 

Just that without psy they would be working in car washes and shit. And they know it. And they are coming up short because nobody buys their shit not because psy ain’t payin what they owe, or else these dudes would be getting it. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

January 9, 2017
1:41 am
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We can’t actually know what they would be doing without ICP. For all we know they could be in a super group with Eminem right now if ICP hadn’t signed them. Is it likely? Fuck no! But I am sick of everyone saying they would be nothing without ICP when there’s no way to even possibly know that. 

 

Other than that, solid points. Except for posting the contracts. I bet they sign NDAs. 

 

I AM confused why AMB signed to psy, left Psy, signed to hatchet house, left, then signed with Psy again. 

 

I think Psy’s biggest downfall as a record label is that they no longer know how to properly scout and promote talent. 

January 9, 2017
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Pigg said
We can’t actually know what they would be doing without ICP. For all we know they could be in a super group with Eminem right now if ICP hadn’t signed them. Is it likely? Fuck no! But I am sick of everyone saying they would be nothing without ICP when there’s no way to even possibly know that. 

 

Other than that, solid points. Except for posting the contracts. I bet they sign NDAs. 

 

I AM confused why AMB signed to psy, left Psy, signed to hatchet house, left, then signed with Psy again. 

 

I think Psy’s biggest downfall as a record label is that they no longer know how to properly scout and promote talent.   

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January 9, 2017
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nobody knows what would’ve happened with Twiztid if ICP didn’t sign them.  They had a little buzz as HOK, and who knows if they would have broken out and did something. we will never know. all you can do is assume, which everyone is doing. Does ICP get credit? yes, but you cant blame Twiztid for stepping out and doing theyre own thing. They were stagnant at PSY, and would always be number 2. good for them for doing theyre thing.

as far as who they sign, its theyre business. So far they are doing OK. Dissing them because they signed YW is silly. however they felt about eachother in the past has passed. YW has talent, Twiztid sees it, and snagged him up. with maulicious intents? who knows, but who cares. like I said before. don’t make it into a NWO black n red vs NWO black n white. its all music.

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January 9, 2017
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Sean Law said

can I suck your dick?  

You can suck mine.  

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January 9, 2017
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nobody knows what would’ve happened with Twiztid if ICP didn’t sign them.  They had a little buzz as HOK, and who knows if they would have broken out and did something. we will never know. all you can do is assume, which everyone is doing. Does ICP get credit? yes, but you cant blame Twiztid for stepping out and doing theyre own thing. They were stagnant at PSY, and would always be number 2. good for them for doing theyre thing.

I want to say/have said that Twizzler wouldn’t be shit without ICP cause realistically, HOK weren’t that good. They had some potential but they were spittin gorecore shit in some cheap masks. Not really the most unique group/concept. BUT, you’re right. Abominationz is proof that there’s a parallel universe where they’re on Tech N9ne levels of fame right now. So who the fuck really knows where they would be without ICP. 

Is anyone surprised that they left? Regardless of anything else, from FreekShow on it was obvious that they weren’t gonna stay there forever. There’s some interview with ABK from around the time he left Psychopathic the first time where he said something like Psychopathic is a big ass house that’s owned by ICP. You can stay in the rooms for as long as you want but you can only take up so much space before you have to get your own place. It’s the smartest thing the dude has ever said. 

 its all music.  

I really hate this argument, man. It’s one I’ve heard a lot over the years over a plethora of reasons. When shit is goin great it’s more than music and it’s family and shit. As soon as things start to get a little huffy though…it’s just music and everyone needs to relax. I don’t get it. It’s either more than music or it isn’t. 

January 9, 2017
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I agree HOK wasn’t very good. they were hit and miss, but even when they broke up with ROC, they made a few songs before they signed with PSY that was a major improvement. Those were the songs they handed to ICP to get the ball rolling

to me it is just music. You seemed to get too emotionally involved in the whole family gimmick, but in reality you only know these guys from what they say in music and interviews, not anything outside of that.

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