1:27 am
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May 22, 2012
1:29 am
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1:37 am
December 3, 2012
LTB said
i smell the beginnings of a movement,
Im down for the fucking movement! as long as I don’t have to do anything special, or anything at all. PRJ for pope?
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
1:51 am
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May 22, 2012
8:04 am
May 22, 2012
couple good songs but nothing amazing or classic…J’s influence is very heavy to the point where its kind of annoying at times (the way they do choruses these days can be tiring too (literally ruined Never Had for me)…overall I’ll give his 2nd album a listen (if it ends up happening) so it wasn’t god awful terrible but my standards for Psy haven’t been too high for years now…compare this with anything outside Psy and it really isn’t that great
favorite songs are Mountain Climbing, The Raven, Hexed, and Darkside
8:47 am
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August 12, 2012
scruffy said
PunkRockJuggalo said
Whats the point of me being a mod if i don’t do anything.
no point. ask me how i know.
That was not a shot at anyone. Just so you and the other mods understand that .
i was just talking about me.
PunkRockJuggalo said
Whats the point of me being a mod if i don’t do anything.
which is why i used the underlined words. i can see where that might come off as me being and asshole or taking shot at people , both of which i wasnt trying to do
8:57 am
February 7, 2013
12:05 pm
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May 22, 2012
1- punkrock, im with ya. that was more me taking a shot at myself.
even if you had meant to slam me, it wouldnt have offended me any. since the new forum format, i havent had much to do. and youve clearly taken up the reins here, in a big way.
help yourself to a couple extra pieces of candy from the treat basket.
2- hoodoo. based on what ive heard, i cant say if ill be feelin the album, but im definitely not hating on it yet. ill probably buy it eventually, and decide then.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
12:46 pm
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August 12, 2012
scruffy said
1- punkrock, im with ya. that was more me taking a shot at myself.even if you had meant to slam me, it wouldnt have offended me any. since the new forum format, i havent had much to do. and youve clearly taken up the reins here, in a big way.
help yourself to a couple extra pieces of candy from the treat basket.
yeah ever since you had to sign up to post the work has slowed down massive.
i just try to help. when i can. Its better than fighting over nothing like a lot of people seem to do here.
12:57 pm
August 27, 2012
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August 12, 2012
Fighting words are written or spoken words, generally expressed to incite hatred or violence from their target.[1] Specific definitions, freedoms, and limitations of fighting words vary by jurisdiction. It is also used in a general sense of words that when uttered tend to create (deliberately or not) a verbal or physical confrontation by their mere usage.
The fighting words doctrine, in United States constitutional law, is a limitation to freedom of speech as protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
In 1942, the U.S. Supreme Court established the doctrine by a 9-0 decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire. It held that “insulting or ‘fighting words,’ those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace” are among the “well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech the prevention and punishment of [which] … have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem.”
Chaplinsky decision
Chaplinsky, a Jehovah’s Witness, had purportedly told a New Hampshire town marshal who was attempting to prevent him from preaching that he was “a God-damned racketeer” and “a damned fascist” and was arrested. The court upheld the arrest and wrote in its decision that
There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or “fighting words” those that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.
— Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942
Post-Chaplinsky
The court has continued to uphold the doctrine but also steadily narrowed the grounds on which fighting words are held to apply. In Street v. New York (1969),[3] the court overturned a statute prohibiting flag-burning and verbally abusing the flag, holding that mere offensiveness does not qualify as “fighting words”. In similar manner, in Cohen v. California (1971), Cohen’s wearing a jacket that said “fuck the draft” did not constitute uttering fighting words since there had been no “personally abusive epithets”; the Court held the phrase to be protected speech. In later decisions—Gooding v. Wilson (1972) and Lewis v. New Orleans (1974)—the Court invalidated convictions of individuals who cursed police officers, finding that the ordinances in question were unconstitutionally overbroad.
In R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992), the Court overturned a statute prohibiting speech or symbolic expression that “arouses anger, alarm or resentment in others on the basis of race, color, creed, religion or gender” on the grounds that, even if the specific statute was limited to fighting words, it was unconstitutionally content-based and viewpoint-based because of the limitation to race-/religion-/sex-based fighting words. The Court, however, made it repeatedly clear that the City could have pursued “any number” of other avenues, and reaffirmed the notion that “fighting words” could be properly regulated by municipal or state governments.
In Snyder v. Phelps (2011), dissenting Justice Samuel Alito likened the protests of the Westboro Baptist Church members to fighting words and of a personal character, and thus not protected speech. The majority disagreed and stated that the protester’s speech was not personal but public, and that local laws which can shield funeral attendees from protesters are adequate for protecting those in times of emotional distress.
Incitement vs. fighting words
Incitement is a related doctrine, allowing the government to prohibit advocacy of unlawful actions if the advocacy is both intended to and likely to cause immediate breach of the peace. The modern standard was defined in Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), where the Court reversed the conviction of a Ku Klux Klan leader accused of advocating violence against racial minorities and the national government. The Ohio statute under which the conviction occurred was overturned as unconstitutional because “the mere abstract teaching of the moral propriety or even moral necessity for a resort to force and violence, is not the same as preparing a group for violent action and steeling it to such action.”[4]
The difference between incitement and fighting words is subtle, focusing on the intent of the speaker. Inciting speech is characterized by the speaker’s intent to make someone else the instrument of his or her unlawful will. Fighting words, by contrast, are intended to cause the hearer to react to the speaker.
1:15 pm
August 27, 2012
5:12 pm
April 15, 2012
iLLtheClown said
So Violent J spit everything on this record? Violent J really stepped up. I mean come on folks do you hate Violent J that much?
it aint that people hate violent j, he just controls artists too much. Why couldn’t have they just signed Doe Dubbla as a solo artist and maybe he’ll MAYBE rock a little bit of face paint and keep his stage name like R.O.C. did when he was with PSY for that brief moment back in 07-08.
the character “Big Hoodoo” is cool, but they should’ve found somebody else to rap as the gimmick, somebody that fits like Boondox. Boondox’s sound and rap style match the gimmick and he does it really well.
also, PSY needs to find an artist that already exists and sign them instead of creating an artist profile and putting a Help Wanted sign in their window next to the costume they want the rapper to wear.
5:19 pm
July 11, 2012
i like biig hoodoo better than boondox actually…i never really cared for boondox..he has some dope songs on harvest and pumpkinhed ep…i like his dark wicked shit but couldnt get into his counrty shit…even live i thought he was boring as fuck…who cares if j controls the artists its his label…lol..he can do what he wants..doe dubbla as a solo artist would be boring..big hoodoo brings something different to the table imo
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