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February 13, 2015
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King Lucem Ferre said
If he was showing us the fruit then we’d know the real reasons why most of Psy left. We’d know the whole story on why they all seem so bitter towards Psy, because they sure as fuck weren’t always that bitter.
So no, they are just seeds.
Ok so why doesnt twiztid say why they are pissed? Its probably about money. Or its sone stupid ass reason like not giving a public apology.
Tell u tbe truth it always seems like twiztid trys to plant these so called seeds. Like the seed “we are what psychopathic could be..” was never planted and watered in ur noggin.
Time to pick this harvest of fruit. And make smoothies.
Just seems like ur tottaly biased bro.i never really say that but i would tip toeing around if i didnt. I dunno man im just some asshole.
This isnt the main story around. To me its still that Cannibal this. That to me hit me more thsn anything. Im a big softy man. That shit brought tears to my eyes when i read rachels artical. None of this shit could ever fobthat to me. Yeah i went there. Corny maybe but true to me.
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12:10 am
February 13, 2015
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My phones tweaking i ment to say thanks on that quote up there
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12:20 am
February 13, 2015
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King Lucem Ferre said
JC said
bayAreaShaman said
…Like my friend once told me concerning an old group of friends “just cuz u fuck with them dont mean u gotta fuck with them right now u know?”
I love that! Just sayin.
I agree.
This what i ment by thanks.
And also as i hear my self i could be biased my self so yeah.
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12:24 am
February 13, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
A man dying trying to help a stranger and her child is infinitely more important than ICP and twiztid.
That doesn’t mean we can’t discuss ICP and twiztid.
Yeah i know…just had to say it. Had to be that guy.
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12:30 am
September 18, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
King Lucem Ferre said
If he was showing us the fruit then we’d know the real reasons why most of Psy left. We’d know the whole story on why they all seem so bitter towards Psy, because they sure as fuck weren’t always that bitter.
So no, they are just seeds.
How many times has he said that he can’t do anything for them that they can’t do themselves?
He has literally said at one point all he was doing was taking a cut of their money, so if they wanna do it themselves they can.
Story seems true enough. Any bitterness is on the one who’s bitter. You mad his kids go to the studio? You mad he’d rather record with big hutch than you?
Thats on you.
The point is you don’t know shit on why they are pissed. Nobody knows. It’s not just Twiztid, Blaze said he’s never going back there again. This is the second time Boondox has left. Monoxide said that they are not aloud to talk about it. J never really spoke on it, said that he doesn’t know they left on all accounts. There were no fruits, just the seeds. We know this small truth because it hurts Twiztid’s reputation. Not the whole truth.
bayAreaShaman said
King Lucem Ferre said
If he was showing us the fruit then we’d know the real reasons why most of Psy left. We’d know the whole story on why they all seem so bitter towards Psy, because they sure as fuck weren’t always that bitter.
So no, they are just seeds.
Ok so why doesnt twiztid say why they are pissed? Its probably about money. Or its sone stupid ass reason like not giving a public apology.
Tell u tbe truth it always seems like twiztid trys to plant these so called seeds. Like the seed “we are what psychopathic could be..” was never planted and watered in ur noggin.
Time to pick this harvest of fruit. And make smoothies.
Just seems like ur tottaly biased bro.i never really say that but i would tip toeing around if i didnt. I dunno man im just some asshole.
This isnt the main story around. To me its still that Cannibal this. That to me hit me more thsn anything. Im a big softy man. That shit brought tears to my eyes when i read rachels artical. None of this shit could ever fobthat to me. Yeah i went there. Corny maybe but true to me.
They said they can’t because the contract says they can’t. They have been bitter about something, and nobody knows why.
I never denied that Twiztid planted seeds. I infact was implying that ICP’s seed planting was their reaction to Twiztids. Regular old garden growers.
I’m not biased, I’m just speaking the truth. Twiztid is mad at ICP for something that nobody really knows about. Monoxide started talking shit and planting seeds. ICP responded to the drama by planting this seed. I’m saying that both are playing the same game and people shouldn’t be so quick to talk shit on either side when we don’t know the full story.
Yes the Cannibal thing was really fucked up. I was kind of annoyed that Twiztid isn’t doing as much to honor Cannibal as ICP is. It’d be cool if they like, squashed shit and did a special show together in honor of Cannibal.
12:35 am
August 29, 2012
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I’ve been thinkin this situation over and I do hope these guys just work the shit out because PSY is doin all good and MNE has been growing, both maybe made bad decisions some more than others that for you to decide who, but just drop the shit and both swallow pride shut the fuck up and keep doin music for the juggalos and be fam again not co-workers who hate each other. Maybe its hard to, but just wipe the slate clean and hit the restart button and support eachothers business’ cuz it would benefit everybody involved.
12:37 am
February 13, 2015
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King Lucem Ferre said
LuckyNumbrXIII said
King Lucem Ferre said
If he was showing us the fruit then we’d know the real reasons why most of Psy left. We’d know the whole story on why they all seem so bitter towards Psy, because they sure as fuck weren’t always that bitter.
So no, they are just seeds.
How many times has he said that he can’t do anything for them that they can’t do themselves?
He has literally said at one point all he was doing was taking a cut of their money, so if they wanna do it themselves they can.
Story seems true enough. Any bitterness is on the one who’s bitter. You mad his kids go to the studio? You mad he’d rather record with big hutch than you?
Thats on you.
The point is you don’t know shit on why they are pissed. Nobody knows. It’s not just Twiztid, Blaze said he’s never going back there again. This is the second time Boondox has left. Monoxide said that they are not aloud to talk about it. J never really spoke on it, said that he doesn’t know they left on all accounts. There were no fruits, just the seeds. We know this small truth because it hurts Twiztid’s reputation. Not the whole truth.
bayAreaShaman said
King Lucem Ferre said
If he was showing us the fruit then we’d know the real reasons why most of Psy left. We’d know the whole story on why they all seem so bitter towards Psy, because they sure as fuck weren’t always that bitter.
So no, they are just seeds.
Ok so why doesnt twiztid say why they are pissed? Its probably about money. Or its sone stupid ass reason like not giving a public apology.
Tell u tbe truth it always seems like twiztid trys to plant these so called seeds. Like the seed “we are what psychopathic could be..” was never planted and watered in ur noggin.
Time to pick this harvest of fruit. And make smoothies.
Just seems like ur tottaly biased bro.i never really say that but i would tip toeing around if i didnt. I dunno man im just some asshole.
This isnt the main story around. To me its still that Cannibal this. That to me hit me more thsn anything. Im a big softy man. That shit brought tears to my eyes when i read rachels artical. None of this shit could ever fobthat to me. Yeah i went there. Corny maybe but true to me.
They said they can’t because the contract says they can’t. They have been bitter about something, and nobody knows why.
I never denied that Twiztid planted seeds. I infact was implying that ICP’s seed planting was their reaction to Twiztids. Regular old garden growers.
I’m not biased, I’m just speaking the truth. Twiztid is mad at ICP for something that nobody really knows about. Monoxide started talking shit and planting seeds. ICP responded to the drama by planting this seed. I’m saying that both are playing the same game and people shouldn’t be so quick to talk shit on either side when we don’t know the full story.
Yes the Cannibal thing was really fucked up. I was kind of annoyed that Twiztid isn’t doing as much to honor Cannibal as ICP is. It’d be cool if they like, squashed shit and did a special show together in honor of Cannibal.
I feel it.
I didnt even think about twiztid talking about cannibal. Ur right.
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12:49 am
September 18, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
eh. I know icp and psy ain’t no angels either. But I’m just saying, bullshit like “we don’t have washed up has beens on our tour” vs “ice been trying to contact them but they don’t answer. If I don’t hear back in 2 weeks were planning a gathering without them.”
which is more transparent?
You’re really cherry picking comments here though. Skipped over the “if it weren’t for us you’d be nothing” rhetoric or the rant about “performing AJB live would be hard because all of the guests, specifically Twiztid”.
12:57 am
September 18, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I won’t joke or use cannibal in this discussion.
Twiztids got a show in philly this month, maybe they got something special planned.
You’d hope so.
1:00 am
September 18, 2012
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Also, there apparently has been some kind of resolve as Rob has provided, lets eagerly wait and see what it is. Or spam Twiztid and ICP for answers.
1:31 am
September 18, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
This…. I can’t explain. lol. It just seemed like a derp off the cuff comment. Like snoop and odb? No problem. It’s twiztid I’m not sure about. I dunno, I didn’t get that either… But I didn’t take it as a backhand either.
It think it was definitely back handed. I also thought it was really funny too. ODB is fucking dead.
He shows up to AJB like…
“Ay, yo, where Twiztid be at?”
1:32 am
September 18, 2012
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Echo Side with AMB.
1:32 am
January 5, 2015
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I disagree with who ever said that we don’t know what the real beef is about. We do.
It’s the same reason abk left. And Esham. And Alex. And at one point jumpsteady. J is hard to work with. He doesn’t compromise. And even though he wants to bring everybody with him, he’ll step on them on his way up. That’s always been true.
Add to that that psy used to have a hierarchy where if you worked hard and stayed around you became a don and had a voice in the company but now it’s very much icp on top, with their homies running shit?
Add to that that icp had experience and money that twiztid didn’t have when they signed them and now there isn’t much difference?
But then you throw in the mix that cd pressings are showing up short, and icp aren’t prioritizing them anymore?
There wasn’t a single thing that pushed them away. It was just generally unpleasant and at some point you gotta say why are we here.
Where did twiztid say that icp wasn’t letting them talk about it? I saw an interview where mono said “we can’t talk about it because they won’t let us” or something to that affect but he was talking about the press. He said any time they mentioned icp it got misquoted and twisted around so they started telling the press they won’t even talk about it. I don’t watch every twiztid interview though so I probably missed the thing about contacts.
Either way though, we’ve all had falling outs with friends or romantic partners and it’s rarely one thing. There might be the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back but really it’s just sometimes relationships go bad.
1:36 am
September 18, 2012
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RobTidwell said
I disagree with who ever said that we don’t know what the real beef is about. We do.It’s the same reason abk left. And Esham. And Alex. And at one point jumpsteady. J is hard to work with. He doesn’t compromise. And even though he wants to bring everybody with him, he’ll step on them on his way up. That’s always been true.
Add to that that psy used to have a hierarchy where if you worked hard and stayed around you became a don and had a voice in the company but now it’s very much icp on top, with their homies running shit?
Add to that that icp had experience and money that twiztid didn’t have when they signed them and now there isn’t much difference?
But then you throw in the mix that cd pressings are showing up short, and icp aren’t prioritizing them anymore?
There wasn’t a single thing that pushed them away. It was just generally unpleasant and at some point you gotta say why are we here.
Where did twiztid say that icp wasn’t letting them talk about it? I saw an interview where mono said “we can’t talk about it because they won’t let us” or something to that affect but he was talking about the press. He said any time they mentioned icp it got misquoted and twisted around so they started telling the press they won’t even talk about it. I don’t watch every twiztid interview though so I probably missed the thing about contacts.
Either way though, we’ve all had falling outs with friends or romantic partners and it’s rarely one thing. There might be the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back but really it’s just sometimes relationships go bad.
But those are all just assumptions at this point.
Either way, Monoxide said it on twitter.
2:27 am
August 8, 2012
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Violent J brought twiztid into this world ..so he has the right to take them out
2:37 am
October 30, 2013
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RobTidwell said
It’s the same reason abk left. And Esham. And Alex. And at one point jumpsteady.
Woah, woah woah…. Hold on there…
With the exception of maybe ABK, them other boys had all KINDS of other fuckin’ problems (-cough-drugs-cough-) and Jumpsteady was on a vision quest of his own leaving to become a fuckin’ EMT… that’s like talkin’ shit about Elvis’ military service ‘er some shit…
Jumpsteady has talked quite extensively (got around to it rather), about the whole Alex thing and we all know Esham went fuckin’ ham and hasn’t recovered since.
That shit has nothing to do with J’s business acumen…
We can only ever speculate on this shit looking IN from the OUTSIDE because as much as we all wanna think that we’re so damn tapped into their everyday daily shit… we ain’t. We only know what they TELL us and it’s THAT manipulation during these kinds of incidents that make everyone try to grasp at straws and connect dots that becomes an insult to the base.
Let’s not get too out of bounds here…
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2:45 am
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May 22, 2012
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i aint lookin it up, cuz i dont know if it was twitter or a seminar or what, but the one quote that has been thrown around goes, i believe, ‘they made it so we cant talk about it’.
not ‘allowed’. not ‘contracts’. none of that.
lotta flex in that statement. could just as easily be that zugzwang again. or, even more likely, cya.
‘sure, we can talk about it freely, but we cant do it without fuckin ourselves up in some way.’
consider: do you really think either side gives much of a flying shit about contracts? theyre supposed to be hating on each other, right, thats the theory? if twiztid wanted to tell the truth, they woulda. if icp wanted to tell us, they woulda. paperwork be damned.
seriously, misquoting is purposeless, at best. look it up, or dont bother to attribute it as a quote. just say its your interpretation.
which it is.
also, regarding the expression ‘going ham’ [which i admittedly cant stand, but whatever], im pretty sure that ‘hard as a mufucka’ is not sumn that you ‘recover’ from.
its an odd phrasing, zall.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
2:55 am
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May 22, 2012
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ya know, j and mono are probably callin each other up and laughin there asses off about this shit.
‘it worked just like you said it would! now, when we announce that its all good, everybody will flip out again, and talk it all up some more!’
maybe.
i dunno.
its as plausible as anything else thats been said in this thread.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
3:47 am
October 30, 2013
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@scruffy I don’t use that phrase as the colloquial acronym it eventually became thanks to tarded millennials but as in “hog wild” “going crazy” nuckin’ futs n’such..
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