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January 22, 2022
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See, that is the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

On one side, there's science and reason, and the other side there's just conspiracy theories.

Thanks for proving my point.

January 22, 2022
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Stay Out of the Skies

Thanks to the vaccine mandates, the friendly skies are now full of emergencies.

Source: https://voxday.net/2022/01/22/stay-out-of-the-skies/

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There aren't two sides to things sometimes; pandemics are one of those things.  

Only one side for you because for you, the pandemic is real. Maybe you or people you know have been affected by this. If so, then it is very real for you. 

For others, it is not. For some, if it was not for the media constantly talking about it, they would not have even known there was a "pandemic".  But living in Texas may help with that since we have restricted what the Federal Government is allowed to enforce within the state.  Without all the mandates restricting freedoms, people haven't really noticed any difference.  For me, if a pandemic is so deadly it requires a constant media blitz just to know it even exists, then it doesn't really seem like it's that big of a deal. 

For context, in Harris County (where I live) the stats for premature death (defined as "life lost before age 75 per 100,000 population") for the past several years:  2018 - 6,660; 2019 - 6,600; 2020 - 6,500; 2021 - 6,400. It has dropped year over year and the trend line matches the trend since 2012.  Now while the premature 2021 stats were published, the total deaths data for Harris for 2021 were not published in that dataset. (The roadmap says the data will be published around the 2nd quarter) so I'll have to come back to that one but if it matches the trend from 2019 and 2020, which is what is predicted, then it is likely to be lower too based on the what was published already for the premature death stats.

When everything around me shows no effect from the "pandemic" in a place where many have not done any mandated anything, I find it hard to justify throwing into the whole "pandemic" thing. Of course that could change if I starting seeing effects around me. The past two years have not personally shown me anything like that though. 

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January 22, 2022
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Psyral Infection said

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There aren't two sides to things sometimes; pandemics are one of those things.  

Only one side for you because for you, the pandemic is real. Maybe you or people you know have been affected by this. If so, then it is very real for you. 

For others, it is not. For some, if it was not for the media constantly talking about it, they would not have even known there was a "pandemic".  But living in Texas may help with that since we have restricted what the Federal Government is allowed to enforce within the state.  Without all the mandates restricting freedoms, people haven't really noticed any difference.  For me, if a pandemic is so deadly it requires a constant media blitz just to know it even exists, then it doesn't really seem like it's that big of a deal. 

For context, in Harris County (where I live) the stats for premature death (defined as "life lost before age 75 per 100,000 population") for the past several years:  2018 - 6,660; 2019 - 6,600; 2020 - 6,500; 2021 - 6,400. It has dropped year over year and the trend line matches the trend since 2012.  Now while the premature 2021 stats were published, the total deaths data for Harris for 2021 were not published in that dataset. (The roadmap says the data will be published around the 2nd quarter) so I'll have to come back to that one but if it matches the trend from 2019 and 2020, which is what is predicted, then it is likely to be lower too based on the what was published already for the premature death stats.

When everything around me shows no effect from the "pandemic" in a place where many have not done any mandated anything, I find it hard to justify throwing into the whole "pandemic" thing. Of course that could change if I starting seeing effects around me. The past two years have not personally shown me anything like that though.   

So what you are saying is, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you identify as Cis-Ostrich?

January 22, 2022
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So what you are saying is, and correct me if I'm wrong, that you identify as Cis-Ostrich?  

I don't understand what that means so I am unable to provide correction if the statement is false. 

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Guessing it implies burying one's head in the sand. Weird, since following the real science from the time it was available (those 2 banned doctors from page 13 of this thread) demonstrates rhetorical globalist fuckery on a MASSIVE scale. Thank Milenko for last year's maskless GOTJ where men were men, women were nude, & douchelos were absent.

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January 22, 2022
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And you don't know how many people there spread covid to each other, and even if they didn't die they definitely spread it to others when they went home, and chances are caused some deaths especially in the unvaccinated elderly. I'm sure alot of Juggalos there hold the same anti vax mindset too so there's no way that wasn't the case.

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Life = Data

Use it or lose it.

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January 22, 2022
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this plandemic is awesome I haven't had to wear pants to work for close to two years and it showed me who the cowards of the world are it amazes me that people would take 3 vaccines for something they had a 99.8% chance at surviving they trust their government so much that it makes sense to these morons to close all the gyms but keep McDonald's open.

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January 22, 2022
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It's that time of day, smacks drunken ranting has begun

January 22, 2022
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It's that time of day, smacks drunken ranting has begun  

I'm only on beer number 2 

since you are a proven coward do you also fear your own shadow Bza??

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January 22, 2022
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I can't believe you're in your 40's and say stuff that you'd see people half your age spew out on reddit, it's bizarre 

January 22, 2022
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you failed the test BZA in under two years you broke down and gave into propaganda and coercion it was designed to break the weak and you have proven you are a weak little man.

since I am unvaxed and unmodified I bet all I would have to do is start coughing around you and you would run like a scared little bitch the funny part is you are vaccinated the vax is supposed to protect you yet you would still run to the hills like a coward.

make sure to get boosted as many times as Dr. Fauci tells you to get and two masks are no longer enough wear 3 of them and stick it in a butt plug just to safe you would not want covid sneaking up your asshole.

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January 22, 2022
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BZA said
It's that time of day, smacks drunken ranting has begun  

Considering he's a worthless alcoholic that's literally every time of day.

quote me to trigger a Canadian child molester

January 22, 2022
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Psyral Infection said

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There aren't two sides to things sometimes; pandemics are one of those things.  

Only one side for you because for you, the pandemic is real. Maybe you or people you know have been affected by this. If so, then it is very real for you. 

For others, it is not. For some, if it was not for the media constantly talking about it, they would not have even known there was a "pandemic".  But living in Texas may help with that since we have restricted what the Federal Government is allowed to enforce within the state.  Without all the mandates restricting freedoms, people haven't really noticed any difference.  For me, if a pandemic is so deadly it requires a constant media blitz just to know it even exists, then it doesn't really seem like it's that big of a deal. 

For context, in Harris County (where I live) the stats for premature death (defined as "life lost before age 75 per 100,000 population") for the past several years:  2018 - 6,660; 2019 - 6,600; 2020 - 6,500; 2021 - 6,400. It has dropped year over year and the trend line matches the trend since 2012.  Now while the premature 2021 stats were published, the total deaths data for Harris for 2021 were not published in that dataset. (The roadmap says the data will be published around the 2nd quarter) so I'll have to come back to that one but if it matches the trend from 2019 and 2020, which is what is predicted, then it is likely to be lower too based on the what was published already for the premature death stats.

When everything around me shows no effect from the "pandemic" in a place where many have not done any mandated anything, I find it hard to justify throwing into the whole "pandemic" thing. Of course that could change if I starting seeing effects around me. The past two years have not personally shown me anything like that though.   

This is literally the "argument from ignorance" with extra steps. The availability heuristic, half a dozen cognitive biases... none of that counters basic knowledge of epidemiology.

You might want to read these lists, especially those pertaining to the availability heuristics and egocentric bias:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_distortion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_techniques

It's ridiculous that people attempt to extrapolate from ignorance, as if ignorance was a source of knowledge.

The data and explanations for why it's called a pandemic have been on the CDC website since 2020.

I already posted a link earlier that debunks all of the common antivaxxer and "unsure" arguments, but of course no one read those.

January 22, 2022
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Milo you just linked Wikipedia 4 times

you are dangerously stupid and that is the very reason you are going to die it's not because of covid it's because you are a fucking idiot.

go away nobody want's to debate an idiot

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January 23, 2022
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you failed the test BZA in under two years you broke down and gave into propaganda and coercion it was designed to break the weak and you have proven you are a weak little man.

since I am unvaxed and unmodified I bet all I would have to do is start coughing around you and you would run like a scared little bitch the funny part is you are vaccinated the vax is supposed to protect you yet you would still run to the hills like a coward.

make sure to get boosted as many times as Dr. Fauci tells you to get and two masks are no longer enough wear 3 of them and stick it in a butt plug just to safe you would not want covid sneaking up your asshole.  

"Test".

Is this related to all of the conflicting and ridiculous conspiracy theories you've posted?

Let's go through the list, shall we?

Here are some of the conspiracies you've posted so far:

  • COVID is part of a secret depopulation plot
  • The vaccines are part of a secret depopulation plot
  • COVID is part of a Chinese Communist plot
  • Vaccines harm sperm/sterilize people
  • The vaccines alter DNA
  • That the initials of the vaccines spell out secret messages
  • The vaccines do nothing at all
  • The vaccines are secretly killing off celebrities
  • Vaccinated people spread COVID more than the unvaccinated
  • The Omicron variant is secretly just the common cold and can be cured by NyQuil 
  • "the real reason the vaccinated want the non-vaccinated to get vaccinated so badly is we have natural immunity"
  • The unvaxxinated are "pure bloods"
  • The mainstream media are being paid to lie about COVID; "fake news"
  • Masks are part of a secret fascism complicity test
  • Boosters are part of a secret fascism complicity test
  • That vaccine passports are part of a secret fascism complicity test
  • Most COVID deaths have nothing to do with COVID
  • The vaccinated catch COVID just as easy if not easier than the unvaxxed
  • The vaccines brainwash people

Krunk preaches much of the same with even more extremist nonsense about "plandemics". I'm surprised she hasn't claimed it has something to do with space aliens or nanobots.

Psyral has a weird fallacious "middle-man" "everything is a harmless opinion" mindset, which has convinced me they've been diagnosed with some mental illness related to disconnecting from reality. I'm not saying that to be dismissive; I've worked in mental health and I'd often come across people that would commit atrocious acts and they would describe their actions and the outcome as "not a big deal". We label that as "blunting" in mental health. The other option is the inability to comprehend what is wrong with the argument to moderation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation). I mean, people are dying and mainstream science is completely on one side of this, but their reaction is a blunted anchoring to a middle ground.

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this dude is the opposite of Refreshing he is in fact stale because I so regretted refreshing this tab

this dude just cannot accept that some people just don't want a vaccine that does more harm than good but to him the vaccine is all he has and you are either with him or against him all he wants to do create is division.

From day one I said you want the vaccine get the vaccine if you don't want it don't get it but this proke person thinks I should have no choice and be forced to take it so his soylent self can feel safe.

that makes him a special kind of stupid

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January 23, 2022
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I wouldn't even say anything back to you if you literally said "it's my choice I don't agree with it" but it's the fact you either go insane or play your troll character and start getting tinfoil hat theories.. the fact you need to go off on such wild tangents is either because you're trolling, you're mentally ill or blind drunk or high and well probably never know which one. Psyral seems the most level headed at least.

But yeah you do you it's just fascinating how you approach all this 

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