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4:40 pm
March 17, 2014
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If you dont believe in God, then yes, numerology is totally illusory. But if you do, then you would realize that all things have a mathematic equation or expression to its function. (also an energetic one) I could quote the bible, or whatever, but it is apparent that you do not value these things. But I pose this to you, if there was an omnipresent being, that is the sum of all things, and its own entity at the same time, how would you create reality? not mathematically?
4:51 pm
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May 22, 2012
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i dont go in for that kind of sophistry.
if you applied half the energy youre wasting on arguments like these to actual betterment of you life, you wouldnt be in this pickle.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
4:52 pm
September 19, 2014
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Fuck this thread. The only thing that’s making me feel better is how much people are recommending you to professionals who can honestly help you AND, if you think that’s a non issue, directing you to the JREF. That’s all that there really is to say.
I see a lot of non contribution on here and I now understand it. I’m not really contributing shit to this but I feel the urge to say something.
4:52 pm
March 17, 2014
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scruffy said
i dont go in for that kind of sophistry.if you applied half the energy youre wasting on arguments like these to actual betterment of you life, you wouldnt be in this pickle.
We agree.
5:03 pm
March 17, 2014
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I will leave this post, and faygoluvers with this…. I will not be back. Listen or not its on you…
5:05 pm
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May 22, 2012
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we will miss you.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
5:09 pm
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August 6, 2013
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IamTheRaven said
Do any of you actually know what 17 means? and why it is consistently used by ICP?
Carnival of Carnage sold 17 copies it’s first day/week/or something.
5:11 pm
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August 6, 2013
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I’m still confused as to why he doesn’t understand these are entertainers…
5:17 pm
September 19, 2014
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17 has definitely showed up in ICP’s career a lot. It’s interesting but in the same way that once you hear the song “138” by Misfits, you can’t help but notice the number 138 everywhere. That only means you’re temporarily aware of the number. Nothing more, nothing less.
5:32 pm
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May 22, 2012
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the so-called ‘baader-meinhof bias’ effect.
for myself, its incredible, on its face, how often i look at my watch at 12:34.
but its not supernatural. i look at my watch a hundred eighty times a day… i just only remember it, when its 12:34.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
5:50 pm
September 19, 2014
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I never knew the term but assumed it was a documented thing. Thanks for the phrase. I read a series called “314” and now I can’t help but notice the number everywhere. Remembering the positives and discarding the negatives is rather unavoidable for humans. The problem is when it results in….well, topics like this lol.
5:52 pm
January 5, 2015
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IamTheRaven said
So, what you are saying is that you never experienced anything supernatural? Secondly, have any of you even heard the story before? It was told before the wraith shangri la was released, or the track list revealed. Thy Ravens Mirror was the first song listed, due to this story, and I doubt that any of you have even noticed the Raven theme. ( I would, for obvious reasons) Thirdly, what does Tech N9ne have to do with anything…… just sayin. (for real, go listen to its alive by Tech N9ne) As for not being religious or demonic or anything, then you obviously havent heard why ICP started doing the Jokers cards, and denying that Marz himself basically just admitted to putting shit in there himself, and having it fuck with him so much that he turned to Christ. Say what you will, but the evidence is available.
it’s probably already been addressed but ravens have long been associated with death across the globe because they eat dead animals. ICP and tech n9ne use the imagery because it works as a symbol for death. The raven’s mirror is about the unexpectedness of death and it’s opposite, the unexpected life.
6:08 pm
January 19, 2013
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Pigg said
IamTheRaven said
Do any of you actually know what 17 means? and why it is consistently used by ICP?Carnival of Carnage sold 17 copies it’s first day/week/or something.
Yes, only 17 ninjas bought Carnival of Carnage on it’s first day of release.
ICP decided to embrace that laughably low number.
They have used it repeatedly in their lyrics, artwork, and track placement on albums.
7:08 pm
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August 6, 2013
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IamTheRaven said
I will leave this post, and faygoluvers with this…. I will not be back. Listen or not its on you…
We lost another one…
7:20 pm
May 4, 2014
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Pigg said
We lost another one…
Nah. He seemed to be talking at us, not with us. I’ll put it in the ‘win’ category.
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9:06 pm
August 27, 2012
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krunkazphuk said
Pigg said
We lost another one…Nah. He seemed to be talking at us, not with us. I’ll put it in the ‘win’ category.
Yeah and we never lost Novo he just cried a little rubbed some dirt in it. All we really have “lost” is @luckynumbrxiii and since hes a cry baby its no big deal. He will ultimately come back, be cool for a bit, and go back to crying an leave again…he has a long menstrual cycle.
"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.
9:40 pm
May 9, 2014
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The Ravens Mirror is a weird song, the first half is a song, and the second half is like a different song. When I was small, I always thought they were two different songs.
"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law
11:31 pm
September 8, 2013
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At that point, Mike Clark was still with ICP. That song was announced as the first song. And you’re right, the song is not related to the title. This could be because a version was done w/ Mike Clark, and when he got canned/fired/whatever it is this week, and they decided to use Mike P., they scrapped the song, had another song and renamed it “The Raven’s Mirror” since it was announced. Although it’s not for sure, but when “The Raven’s Mirror” was first announced, Mike Clark was still w/ them so there COULD be a version of “The Raven’s Mirror” somewhere that’s different from the one that ended up on “The Wraith”. Foot note: since the track listing leaked on the net early and had this song named as “The Joker and The Juggler/Let Me Go” (which makes more sense as a title), juggalos were asking where “The Raven’s Mirror” was. They quickly renamed the song “The Raven’s Mirror”. Could be true or not.
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