IamTheRaven said
There is not enough density to the throat muscles here to explain this… ,

qi gong training starts with harnessing invisible energy from the universe, (which by the way has been proven to be a literal hologram)   As for proof, why prove anything? why not just help those who need it?

This has been proven a trick many times over. If there is any evidence of any of this “Invisible Energy” then why hasn’t anyone even come close to claiming the Randi million dollar prize. No one has ever been able to prove anything supernatural when placed under scientific scrutiny. In fact, they all get proven as fakes, or at the least unknowing self-deceivers.

Show proof. And proof is not finding a bunch of people who say or believe the same thing. It’s following scientific process to eliminate self deception and confirmation bias. It requires double blind tests and multiple control elements.

IamTheRaven said
… which by the way has been proven to be a literal hologram.   As for proof, why prove anything? why not just help those who need it?

Proven to be a literal hologram? PROVEN? Really?

If something is not proven then you are just passing on incorrect information. That is the most EVIL thing I have ever heard. Bad information passed off because it seemed to help some has led to too many scientific dark ages. I will never accept that logic. It’s detrimental to the entire world.

ScottieD said

IamTheRaven said
So you are an atheist by choice, not lack of evidence. How is your relationship with your father Pig?

Wow, how presumptuous.  I am an atheist as well and have a fantastic relationship with my mother and father.  I think Marz really believes in his skydaddy, but I’m with @piggofdoom.  Unless there’s some hard evidence that’s not circumstantial, then count me out.  I was a Christian until I was 25 (indoctrination much?), and can’t even begin to describe how much more free I feel, and how much more I appreciate things knowing that life short.  To each their own, but the world that Marz describes is something I’m all too familiar with, and want no part of anymore.

This. I grew up in an extremely religious family. Both of my parents, my grandparents, all of my aunts, uncles, and cousins. My brother and I are the only ones who aren’t religious any longer, because we weren’t ridiculously indoctrinated as children.

IamTheRaven said
first of all what i just showed and what you just showed me are two completely different things. secondly, yes, people have been scamming people in all manners of sales. including, sadly, martial arts. one scam does not prove EVERYTHING to be false. If you want proof, I will lend my services, do you know anyone who is pain right now?

As I stated before, if you have prove that withstands scientific scrutiny, there’s a MILLION dollars waiting for you.

IamTheRaven said
first of all what i just showed and what you just showed me are two completely different things. secondly, yes, people have been scamming people in all manners of sales. including, sadly, martial arts. one scam does not prove EVERYTHING to be false. If you want proof, I will lend my services, do you know anyone who is pain right now?

Maybe. Do you still hear voices? “Accepting Jesus has stopped me from seeing demons, like I used to since the cd. But I still have these annoying voices.) ” If you are still hearing voices – not a normal thing – then maybe you are still in pain and need this mental illness cure that you are talking about.

What do these voices say?

IamTheRaven said
do you personally know anyone in pain right now? I will need a photo, and the city and state. and a half an hour of their time. to simply lie down, close their eyes, and not be bothered…. also, I was not indoctrinated into anything, I have simply had real experiences. that proved to me God is real. As is Jesus.

Why you need a photo and the city and state? And does it matter what kind of pain? What if it is a broken bone? if after the 30 minutes will this bone be repaired? How about someone who is blind? Will you help them too? How about someone who is suffering hunger pain, will this 30 minutes fill their stomach?

And I reiterate that if you are not trying to get that million dollars (which could find your expensive treatment) you’re either wrong and you know it, or terrible at making financial decisions.

IamTheRaven said
and that million dollar challenge was for psychic ability, designed by their tests, not any particular ability.

The James Randi Educational Foundation will pay US$1,000,000 (One Million US Dollars) (“The Prize”) to any person who demonstrates any psychic, supernatural, or paranormal ability under satisfactory observation. Such demonstration must take place under the rules and limitations described in this document. An applicant can be from or in any part of the world. Gender, race, and educational background are not factors for acceptance. Applicants must be at least 18 years of age and legally able to enter into binding agreements.