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Marz answers my questions, would ICP ever do the same?
May 27, 2015
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IamTheRaven said
Or is this how lack of evidence occurs? No one is willing to take the time to see the results for themselves, theyd rather read about it later so they can dismiss it based on their own beliefs.

There are more qualified people to look at the claims/results/etc than I. There ARE people willing to look at every single piece of data, though. I don’t have the attention span for that. 

May 27, 2015
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as for seeking conventional help, 8 months in a psych ward, 1 year taking seroquel, (highest legal dosage,) and 1 year taking respiridol, ( highest legal dosage) turns out that they dont actually work on 70 percent of people, I wonder if the placebo effect was taken into account when they did their studies?

I wonder if your statistic’s source is reliable. Much like your opinion about atheism, not seeking conventional help IN THE PRESENT is your choice. All the best.

 

http://www.who.int/mental_heal…..55.pdf   check page 15, this is from the world health organization, so I wonder what statistics can be considered valid, or reliable….. as many go on without even being diagnosed.

May 27, 2015
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dead link.  

and a thirty percent success rate beats a twenty percent success rate, dont it?  

 

again, no magical solutions.  a big part of your problem, is continuing to insist that there are.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 27, 2015
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As for being wild and outlandish, I offer proof to my claim that I can send real healing energy, right now, at the drop of a hat. considering this a challenge, I would say that everyone here is quick to dismiss anything that doesnt jive with THEIR beliefs. I’ll show you, but Im pretty sure you dont want to see it. Otherwise, like Barney from How I met your mother, people would say, Challenge accepted. As I am. But we could beat around this bush all day. I walk away having lost nothing, and you all walk away having gained nothing. (I sat alone speakin with the head of a raven, who sat there and told my why my life’s worth saving, so I shot him in the face and I shot myself, after he said that they’re trying to turn the kingdom into hell.) Black Rain. Guess they lied, (Imagine a lotus sign, imagine the broken minds just waiting to be fixed, and with the petals of the lotus you can answer all that shit.) Then again……

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pigg settled this on the second post.  

 

why, @iamtheraven, are you so quick to accept this outlandish, wild, and utterly untrue fantasy stuff, and so quick to dismiss anything that dont jive with it?  

 

ill tell you, but you wont wanna hear it.  im pretty confident about that.  

 

had a second point that i was gonna address directly, but travisstik just hit it for me.  

you saying ‘i dont want to be cured, because then i wouldnt be motivated to help people’ is the same excuse you are ascribing to big pharmaceutical.  precisely the same.  no.  different.  at.  all. 

 

i told you before, seek help from someone who does help people all day.  a professional.  a medical professional.  

saying ‘i took a pill once, and it didnt magically fix me’ ignores the point:  there are no magic fixes.  

May 27, 2015
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I’m really sorry I read this cause now I’m intrigued. How did this go from you talking about God, Demons, Dark Lotus, and ravens to talking about Chi?

May 27, 2015
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my bad fucked up the copy, this should work, page 15 http://www.who.int/mental_heal…../en/55.pdf

May 27, 2015
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I’m really sorry I read this cause now I’m intrigued. How did this go from you talking about God, Demons, Dark Lotus, and ravens to talking about Chi?

 

because chi is one of the solutions that I (believe) I have found to cure mental illness, (tai chi and chi gong) (also if warding off demons,) and if you believe in chi, then it has to come from somewhere dont it?

May 27, 2015
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and how else could one explain that MARZ admitted that he chanted spells into the music, and made me crazy and see demons and shit and hear voices, there is a LOGICAL explanation…. if you see what I am saying.

May 27, 2015
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IamTheRaven said

travisstik said
I’m really sorry I read this cause now I’m intrigued. How did this go from you talking about God, Demons, Dark Lotus, and ravens to talking about Chi?

 

because chi is one of the solutions that I (believe) I have found to cure mental illness, (tai chi and chi gong) (also if warding off demons,) and if you believe in chi, then it has to come from somewhere dont it?

That’s just horrible. How can you channel Chi if you don’t know where it comes from? That’s not even including the fact that it would be a sin to practice for a christian, which you said you were. Well before you said you were atheist. While you were saying you could channel Chi. I’m sorry, but I really think you’re an idiot.

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IamTheRaven said
and how else could one explain that MARZ admitted that he chanted spells into the music, and made me crazy and see demons and shit and hear voices, there is a LOGICAL explanation…. if you see what I am saying.

that isnt logic.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 27, 2015
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If you follow atheist logic then ,mental illness is a chemical imbalance, and if you follow ancient wisdom (even looking at remission rates in India, 45 percent, compared to america 3 percent, for schizophrenia, whats different about those two countries? well, if you believe the guy who says he hasnt eaten or drank water in 70 year, (UNPROVEN) then he says that he basically charges his chakras, absorbs energy (CHI or Prana) from the sun. If meds dont work here, but something works elsewhere, but nobody believes in chi in america, because its not a cultural significance, then what conclusion would a person come to? perhaps that there may be a real connection…..

May 27, 2015
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You want proof which I can offer right now, or you dont, simple as that, this is a foundational belief structure, where mine, is based on experience, and yours is based on lack thereof. I am willing to give you that experience. but I cant force it. so all arguments become invalid by lack of accepting the offer of proof. we are at an impasse.

May 27, 2015
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mental illness covers a fuckload more than chemical imbalance.  

atheist does not equal scientist.  

 

none of what you just said is authoritative in the slightest.  

 

you are buying it, because its what you want to hear.  that is not the same as proof.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 27, 2015
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Somewhere meaning God. is it a sin for a christian to heal people? is it a sin for a christian to prophecy? actually no…. these are called gifts of the spirit, 1 Corithians 12:28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues.

travisstik said

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I’m really sorry I read this cause now I’m intrigued. How did this go from you talking about God, Demons, Dark Lotus, and ravens to talking about Chi?

 

because chi is one of the solutions that I (believe) I have found to cure mental illness, (tai chi and chi gong) (also if warding off demons,) and if you believe in chi, then it has to come from somewhere dont it?

That’s just horrible. How can you channel Chi if you don’t know where it comes from? That’s not even including the fact that it would be a sin to practice for a christian, which you said you were. Well before you said you were atheist. While you were saying you could channel Chi. I’m sorry, but I really think you’re an idiot.

May 27, 2015
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i could find you fifty christian scholars who would vehemently disagree.  

but i dont credit them any, either.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 27, 2015
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I was an atheist, before I started listening to tales from the lotus pod, and starting seeing demons and shit…. not really hard to follow along, if you actually read what I write. let me rephrase my scriptural example, I know someone out there may jump all of that….  http://www.allaboutgod.com/gif…..spirit.htm

May 27, 2015
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Do any of you actually know what 17 means? and why it is consistently used by ICP?

May 27, 2015
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I told you I’ll take you up on the offer when I have some sort of pain. But you still never answered Psyral’s questions of why you need their name/picture/etc.

May 27, 2015
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seventeen is a number just like any other number.  it doesnt ‘mean’ anything but a quantity.  

youre not helping yourself at all, holmes.  numerology is totally illusory.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 27, 2015
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IamTheRaven said
The broken bone needs to be set first. and no not after one session, but noticeable difference will be seen. as for hunger, havent tried it, I need a photo and city and state so I can focus on who and where I am sending energy. as for blind, or any deep trauma it may take a few times to pull it off, ( I am not Jesus)

Actually I did

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