11:50 am
March 17, 2014
Here is my conversation with Marz, you know, the dude who was in Dark Lotus……. Figured I’d share.
The Raven: can I ask you a personal question? Were you there with ICP and everyone when they saw a bunch of crows fly through the sky and spell “mirror the raven”? I tried asking ABK about it, but he blew me off.
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The Raven: After hearing Tales from the lotus pod, I started experiencing what was later diagnosed as schizophrenia, and it really messed my life up, but it put me on a path to find a cure for mental illnesses. And I sought Christ because of it. It’s hard for me to explain, but if you were there, then your answer would be the difference between me pursuing it, or feeling like it was all a lie/demonic. Did you guys really chant spells into that cd? You could PM me if you want, and delete these comments, but I started hearing voices and shit over all of that, and for western medicine to deny the “supernatural” aspect of mental illness, is gross neglect, and extremely dangerous. And if you played a role in all of that, then I feel like you could at least give me an explanation, so I dont waste what’s left of my life following an illusion….. like doing things like this…. https://www.faygoluvers.net/v5/…..r-bust-ep/
The Raven – “Non Profit Or Bust” EP
This Ain’t the Life I B O G A From Us (ft. The Jokerr) So I Can Apply for Grants – 501(c)(3)
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Marz: Me and icp would be what you could call ” useful idiots” for the demonic realm, I was actualy into all that stuff at the time icp,twisted and blaze were NOT, to them it’s all an act, they have no idea the power they are being used by. I never saw any crows flying but I saw violent J make up lies all the time, he is amazing at manipulating juggalos with fake supernatural stories. He has no idea that it is destroying people’s lives and I had no idea either until I got saved. Demonic stuff is real, the good news is that every demon must bow at the presence of Christs Holy Spirit and they can be cast out, the only thing that beats them permanently is giving you life fully to Christ and following him. I have repented like crazy over doing that album, and I will do whatever is in my power to bring Gods kingdom to light and destroy whatever harm I’ve caused by being a useful idiot.
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The Raven: Well, whats crazy is since that happened, I am assuming it’s J, has made each artist put something on at least one cd about the Raven, as if this were in fact a real story, from Raven’s Mirror on the Wraith, to ABK’s Medicine bag,( Raven) Boondox’s intro to Krimson Creek, Twiztid’s “That’s Wicked” on W.I.C.K.E.D. Hoodoo’s Crystal skull (The Raven) a few other Dark Lotus songs on Black Rain, Even Tech N9ne, has said in It’s Alive, from Anghellic, Misery phased Raven for the Crazed Haven, So, I should not take these things as the holy spirit sending a message, with them being conduits, I should take it as they are tools of evil, and dont know who they are following? Point made. I kind of suspected since J said that he saw a dark shadow and thought that that was God, When I met God, there was nothing dark about Him. Jesus either. I was simply confused because a preacher had put his hand on my head and told me that I would end up doing something with designs on clothing, and later two completely different psychics reiterated this, and added that it would be for a non profit organization. And here I am sitting here with cures to mental illness, and drug addiction. (Accepting Jesus has stopped me from seeing demons, like I used to since the cd. But I still have these annoying voices.) So I will not pursue helping the hundreds of millions of people worldwide, if the source is not trustworthy. Thank you for responding. Just wish other people knew this story, I may not be the only one STILL suffering from it. If it means anything, I forgive you, and I really appreciate you responding.
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Marz: Are you still listening to icp or juggalo content music? If you are then that’s probably the reason your still hearing voices, I would suggest you stop listening to any of there music or any music that is speaking death, all that raven stuff is just lies and marketing bro ,God is not a shadow God is light. Satan is a shadow, God is not involved with icp, satan is. I will make a video talking about this because it’s to much to type. Be blessed and I encourage you to get that stuff out of your life the sooner the better. Be blessed my brother.
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The Raven: 1 Kings 17:4 You shall drink of the brook, and I have commanded the ravens to feed you there. God instructed Elijah (translated as My God is Yahweh) to follow his plan, and used the ravens to feed him, he was later depressed, and suicidal. I thought that this message may have been a repeat from God, if they really saw crows fly through the sky and spell the words mirror the raven. So, there is even much scriptural connection, whether they knew that or not…… And I kind of accepted The story of the thorn in the apostle Paul’s side, as a rationality for my current experience. But I get what you’re saying.
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Marz: Brandan, I think it’s great that you are seeking scripture that is exactly what we all need to do, also keep in mind “context” there are TONS of things that people and cult leaders manipulate out of scripture and use it to decieve people. A good measuring tool is to keep in mind when jesus said ” you will know them by their fruit”. If someone is saying they speak for God, but then writes music about death, killing, death, darkness etc etc…we can usualy see by the actions and fruit of people’s lives, what and who they actualy worship.
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The Raven: True, they have had much time and money to actually help their fans, and they haven’t. From the homeless juggalos out there, to the drug addicted juggalos, there is so much that they could do to ease the suffering, of even this gang classification that many are suffering for, (some even losing their kids) and suing the FBI probably wont do anything about it even if successful. I thought I received a positive message through their music, overall, but yes, they are focused more on vengeance in their story lines than forgiveness, or helping people. selling 1 tshirt for a benefit is nowhere near what could be done with their influence. I guess I keep giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping that they would actually get Juggalos organized to do something good in the communities, cleaning up garbage, building homes…. something….. instead of just bitching about the problems of the world, and getting paid, like most rappers do. I keep hearing stories of how greedy J is, it’s such a shame that a lot of Juggalos really are decent people, and do not become said “Good fruit”. What a waste of a movement. When I paid to see ABK backstage, to finally ask about the raven thing, and what were they planning on doing to help Juggalos after all this gang stuff, he said, “That’s not my thing, I’m just here to do music.” Kinda felt stabbed in the heart. Then they gave away my merch that came with the 75 dollar backstage bullshit. Like, wow, this is family huh? Started feeling like the damn footclan from the first Turtles movie. Would love to see you do a song with The Jokerr by the way.
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1:40 pm
March 17, 2014
So, what you are saying is that you never experienced anything supernatural? Secondly, have any of you even heard the story before? It was told before the wraith shangri la was released, or the track list revealed. Thy Ravens Mirror was the first song listed, due to this story, and I doubt that any of you have even noticed the Raven theme. ( I would, for obvious reasons) Thirdly, what does Tech N9ne have to do with anything…… just sayin. (for real, go listen to its alive by Tech N9ne) As for not being religious or demonic or anything, then you obviously havent heard why ICP started doing the Jokers cards, and denying that Marz himself basically just admitted to putting shit in there himself, and having it fuck with him so much that he turned to Christ. Say what you will, but the evidence is available.
1:44 pm
May 9, 2014
Tales From The Lotus Pod…Dark? Hmmmmmmmm
Black Crows and Black Magic are probably the darkest songs on there, I wish the whole album was like that actually. But oh well, the rest is still wicked and and silly I love it. (CALL ME BACK, BITCH)
Demons are cool, how come I never seen any?!? What in the FUCK.
Like any other wicked artist out there said, it’s just like a scary movie in hip hop form. People love to get scared, I love to get scared, it’s cool as fuck. Although some new scary movies aren’t shit, fuckin’ Ouija man, it’s an okay movie, but it seemed to lean towards more to the teen drama side. Anyone know any really fucked up crazy movies that’ll scare the shit out of you??? I prefer Japanese based movies (Grudge, Ring, Missed Call).
Back to the point, it’s cool that you talked to Marz and shit, but, I’m still gonna keep it wicked. And, I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to Psychopathic Records music. It’s the only thing that’s been there for me all my life. Sentimental value you know.
"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law
1:56 pm
March 17, 2014
Right, you think that “call me back bitch” was a pointless skit? OR are they talking to someone. I suppose that the music only has as much depth as your consciousness is able to grasp. As for demons being cool, I used to think so, until I literally woke up with blood and scars on my arms, and when you leave your body and a demon has you gripped in fear, (like myasma in Inuyasha,) and you cant move. (atheist scientists call this sleep paralysis) And if you really think demons are cool, then have fun when they destroy your life. (that’s kind of their thing.)
as for any thoughts of being random or entertainment, then give Russel Brand a listen when he just says whatever pops in his mind, keep this story in mind when you hear it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvWMFH7cvoY
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August 6, 2013
IamTheRaven said
So, what you are saying is that you never experienced anything supernatural? Secondly, have any of you even heard the story before? It was told before the wraith shangri la was released, or the track list revealed. Thy Ravens Mirror was the first song listed, due to this story, and I doubt that any of you have even noticed the Raven theme. ( I would, for obvious reasons) Thirdly, what does Tech N9ne have to do with anything…… just sayin. (for real, go listen to its alive by Tech N9ne) As for not being religious or demonic or anything, then you obviously havent heard why ICP started doing the Jokers cards, and denying that Marz himself basically just admitted to putting shit in there himself, and having it fuck with him so much that he turned to Christ. Say what you will, but the evidence is available.
No, I haven’t, because “supernatural” doesn’t exist. ICP started doing the joker cards because he had a dream. Your dreams are your memories and imagination basically mashing around randomly. Just because you THINK it’s supernatural, doesn’t mean it is. Humans are smart, our brains are REALLY good at recognizing patterns, to the point where we notice them when they aren’t really there. This, coupled with the fact that humans understand that we are gonna die, whereas other species don’t, leads to some interesting figments of the imagination.
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August 6, 2013
JiffyLong said
Tales From The Lotus Pod…Dark? HmmmmmmmmBlack Crows and Black Magic are probably the darkest songs on there, I wish the whole album was like that actually. But oh well, the rest is still wicked and and silly I love it. (CALL ME BACK, BITCH)
Demons are cool, how come I never seen any?!? What in the FUCK.
Like any other wicked artist out there said, it’s just like a scary movie in hip hop form. People love to get scared, I love to get scared, it’s cool as fuck. Although some new scary movies aren’t shit, fuckin’ Ouija man, it’s an okay movie, but it seemed to lean towards more to the teen drama side. Anyone know any really fucked up crazy movies that’ll scare the shit out of you??? I prefer Japanese based movies (Grudge, Ring, Missed Call).
Back to the point, it’s cool that you talked to Marz and shit, but, I’m still gonna keep it wicked. And, I don’t think I’ll ever stop listening to Psychopathic Records music. It’s the only thing that’s been there for me all my life. Sentimental value you know.
Audition, a tale of two sisters, imprint are all good. Audition and imprint are from the same guy who directed one missed call. Watch audition with a girl and tell her it’s a Japanese romance movie. A tale of Two sisters is Korean. Guillermo del Toro has a lot of good movies, Pan’s Labyrinth isn’t really horror, more of an adult fantasy, but it’s great.
2:11 pm
May 9, 2014
I wasn’t being too serious on the demon part, I’m sure the way you view it, they actually are pretty fucked up and shit. But hey, I had sleep paralysis too, thought it was fucked up. But after I realized what it was, I just dealt with it, and been trying to do it again so I can have a dope ass dream, but with my luck, it only happens when I least expect it, go figure. The demons are probably hallucinations, because your awake while you’re dreaming, and when you get scared, you see some scary shit. It’s all a mind effect I think, but then what the fuck do I know, I’m just skimming past school.
And Pigg, I will definitely check those out. I also didn’t mention Pulse, that movies awesome, scared me when I was little. I find that more “scary” than Jason and Freddy, killers are just cool, not scary.
"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law
2:12 pm
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August 6, 2013
I’m an atheist because of lack of evidence. If you think you HAVE evidence, hit up James Randi and get your million dollars!
http://web.randi.org/the-milli…..lenge.html
My father’s dead. It has nothing to do with my lack of Relgion though, I lost my religion a long time after he died.
2:13 pm
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August 6, 2013
JiffyLong said
I wasn’t being too serious on the demon part, I’m sure the way you view it, they actually are pretty fucked up and shit. But hey, I had sleep paralysis too, thought it was fucked up. But after I realized what it was, I just dealt with it, and been trying to do it again so I can have a dope ass dream, but with my luck, it only happens when I least expect it, go figure. The demons are probably hallucinations, because your awake while you’re dreaming, and when you get scared, you see some scary shit. It’s all a mind effect I think, but then what the fuck do I know, I’m just skimming past school.And Pigg, I will definitely check those out. I also didn’t mention Pulse, that movies awesome, scared me when I was little. I find that more “scary” than Jason and Freddy, killers are just cool, not scary.
I watched it and fell asleep, then woke up and there was some weird ass shit happening.
2:14 pm
May 9, 2014
As Chris Rock said from Dogma, it’s better to have ideas than beliefs, ideas are more flexible. I know it’s just a movie, but I liked that.
Religion, I find that to be limiting to one belief and not taking all the possibilities into consideration.
"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law
IamTheRaven said
So you are an atheist by choice, not lack of evidence. How is your relationship with your father Pig?
Wow, how presumptuous. I am an atheist as well and have a fantastic relationship with my mother and father. I think Marz really believes in his skydaddy, but I’m with @piggofdoom. Unless there’s some hard evidence that’s not circumstantial, then count me out. I was a Christian until I was 25 (indoctrination much?), and can’t even begin to describe how much more free I feel, and how much more I appreciate things knowing that life short. To each their own, but the world that Marz describes is something I’m all too familiar with, and want no part of anymore.
2:19 pm
May 9, 2014
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Sean Law said
I guess you should change your name Raven…Plus the government created god so people would be scared into being good.
What better way to run a smooth society than to threaten them with an afterlife of eternal damnation. Lol
Just like Corporate Avenger.
"Your girl fucked me 'cause you cummin' quicker than FedEx Air"- Sean Law
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February 15, 2014
@iamtheraven , I have listened a lot to ICP and Dark Lotus and all the various psychopathic records artists. I have never experienced anything “supernatural”. From your fixation with the word Raven, and how in previous posts you thought they were specifically talking about you or to you, it would seem that it is nothing supernatural but a direct result of schizophrenia.
You have many times talked about this cure to mental illness and addiction. Can you explain how this cure actually works? I am looking for the scientific evidence. I know it’s easy to google stuff about Ibogaine and find tons of sites talking about 80 to 90 percent success rates but not one of those follow scientific methods and all those are pro-ibogaine sites so it is doubtful any test they did were without bias. The few actual scientific studies done show the percentage of opiate addicts who get clean and stay that way for more than a year at around 25%-30%; the percentage drops to around 20% with other drugs and alcohol. What is clearer from available research and testimonials is that recovering addicts, at minimum, buy themselves time to make the necessary choices and changes in their lives that support their continued recovery.
2:21 pm
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August 6, 2013
Sean Law said
I guess you should change your name Raven…Plus the government created god so people would be scared into being good.
What better way to run a smooth society than to threaten them with an afterlife of eternal damnation. Lol
Wait, what? Religion started because humans realize we are gonna die and refused to believe that it was final. Governments may have USED religions to scare people into being good, but no government (as far as I know) INVENTED a god. Except North Korea or something.
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