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DISCUSSION: Twiztid Declining the DC march
January 4, 2017
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

I think the street lights came on, time to go to bed  

Yeah, that never worked even when I was a kid.

January 4, 2017
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Makaveli said
 I’m guessing nobody knows why, but any theories as to why ICP or whoever runs the march site originally put twiztid on the accepted list? Did they just assume they’d be there like everyone else assumed, or were they maybe trying to make them look bad or something? Who knows..

 

This is all crazy though.   

I was thinking about that as well. My conclusion is that this is all a troll, basically history repeating itself ie. boondox joining mne.

I bet young wicked will go back to psychopathic after juggalo day or the gathering or the march…

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King Lucem Ferre said
Just out of curiosity, what do people think this march will actually accomplish?  

shall i be honest? 

no idea. 

 

be nice if at least a few people would look at us outside of the dumb joke that most people and some juggalos think we are sposed to be. 

be nice if cops just forgot about us completely. 

know what else would be nice?  a literal heaven, and world peace.  and a pony. 

 

but whatever happens, i intend for it to happen to me. 

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scruffy said 

 … know what else would be nice?  a literal heaven, and world peace.  and a pony…  
 

And let’s not forget blowjob & ice cream Wednesdays. It’s the law.

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Carnivalkilla44 said

Idk, born in 1989… Not sure what that makes me lol. Started listening to ICP around 1999, Twiztid not until about 2004  

Taurus,  born, in 1989,  I’m like 30 or something,  but I’m still a juggalo 

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King Lucem Ferre said
Just out of curiosity, what do people think this march will actually accomplish?  

For me i dont care if it accomplishes anything, im still going. I prefer to say i tried, rather than wonder what if OR damn, i missed out on a part of history. Basically my perspective is just like the song, the world is yours, off of tmml found

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What do I think this march will accomplish? 

Realistically, probably nothing.  But I feel that we have to try.  We have to speak out against discrimination. Like that “first they came for” quote.  Plus, look at the things that we now read about in history books that could have just as easily accomplished nothing.  I mean, refusing to move seats for a white person could have had no real impact, yet it did.  I don’t know what the future holds, but I know that I have to try, because really what else is there to do?  

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January 4, 2017
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scruffy said

shall i be honest? 

no idea. 

 

be nice if at least a few people would look at us outside of the dumb joke that most people and some juggalos think we are sposed to be. 

be nice if cops just forgot about us completely. 

know what else would be nice?  a literal heaven, and world peace.  and a pony. 

 

but whatever happens, i intend for it to happen to me.   

But this won’t change how people see juggalos. You see how well BLM marches work. And those are for much bigger social injustices. People actively search for anything they can to dismiss those movements, this one was already dismissed before it even started. I think most artists see this turning out like a lot of BLM marches too and don’t want any part of it. Juggalos are much more irrational than angry black people.

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Imo it’s a bitch move, and that’s coming from someone who listens to twiztid everyday. I think even if the rest of MNE does not come, Twiztid should. They owe it to the juggalos and ICP. Without us there would be no them. I love all those fuckers but man that rubbed me the wrong way. Like I couldn’t help but feel slightly betrayed lol

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January 4, 2017
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

I was thinking about that as well. My conclusion is that this is all a troll, basically history repeating itself ie. boondox joining mne.

I bet young wicked will go back to psychopathic after juggalo day or the gathering or the march…  

Speaking of conspiracy, i think twiztid was implanted into the juggalo scene as spies, and the fbi is putting an end to a good percentage of the freethinker population.

January 4, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said  
But this won’t change how people see juggalos.  

even if you magically knew this ahead of time… 

so? 

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January 4, 2017
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

Speaking of conspiracy, i think twiztid was implanted into the juggalo scene as spies, and the fbi is putting an end to a good percentage of the freethinker population.  

If the FBI wanted to get rid of free thinkers then why would they go after the juggalo scene?

January 4, 2017
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scruffy said

King Lucem Ferre said  
But this won’t change how people see juggalos.  

even if you magically knew this ahead of time… 

so?   

It’s not magic it’s logic.

So all of these people, not you Scruffy, are openly willing to spend time and money to do something that you all know probably won’t accomplish anything, all for a cause that is so little compared to the woes of the rest of the world, isn’t even the biggest act of discrimination in the country alone, and are going to be upset when Twiztid doesn’t want to participate? Now, are people really going because they feel this is a big issue that needs to be addressed this way or are these people going to hang out and have a good time with juggalos? Is this going to be one of those anti Trump bandwagon rallies where people go to socialize and feel self important when they really don’t know shit about politics? I’d personally go to make me feel self important or better about trying to change something but at the same time I’d feel like a selfish piece of shit for not ever getting involved in protests or marches with a better cause behind it.

January 4, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said

If the FBI wanted to get rid of free thinkers then why would they go after the juggalo scene?  

Are you really tryin to debate a conspiracy theory that was made with no facts by some bum who is prolly sitting in their parents basement, snacking on cheesy poofs and redbull.

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King Lucem Ferre said  
If the FBI wanted to get rid of free thinkers then why would they go after the juggalo scene?   

why would they go after juggalos, period? 

for that matter, if the fbi wanted to go on existing, why would they go after real crimes that actually matter on a federal level?  crime go way, fbi go way. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2017
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1) To the people shitting on the the whole idea of the march: There are marches and demonstrations outside of the Washington DC monuments EVERY. FUCKING. DAY. and you’re right, they mostly don’t do shit. But marches and the like are an important symbolic gesture that takes full use of our right to free speech. It may not yield a result in that moment but demonstrations can bring about change in their wake by being an example of support ie If a whole shitload of mafaks show up over a thing, it might make someone at least look twice into it… and that is why ATTENDANCE is an important issue with all this shit.

And seeing as the “Juggalo World” seems to pride itself on the value of “symbolic gestures” and has done so for years, one would think there would be more support from them regarding this very bold attempt. If not by being there but just for projecting their  positive light on it. You can say you don’t like the idea or that you won’t be there, but why shit all over it and wish for it to fail?

 

2) Here’s what I think about MNE not going:

Psychopathic and Magik Ninja are like a bunch of brothers that have grown up in the same house and lived their lives with their beds in the same room… until one day, they get old enough to say, “I’m grown! I want my own room!”. They get their own room… but now they all wanna act like they don’t still live IN THE SAME HOUSE!!! They’re all still under the same roof.

They can build an extension on that house, they can build a “mother-in-law suite” down a long hallway, knock down a few walls and put doors up where there were none so they don’t have to see anyone else that lives there during their days; get different driveways and park in separate garages… Psychopathic and MNE ALL need to come to terms with the fact that they all still live under the same roof and reap from the same fields of the same property: Juggalo.

 

3) I too am starting to ask the question as to just WHAT THE FUCK is going on with Psychopathic, Violent J and Shaggy (ICP ostensibly) that everyone is REALLY beginning to jump their shit if not JUMPING SHIP? Is VJ going that far off the deep end with his “conversion”? How come Shaggy never seems to have shit to say anymore? He went from hosting one of the first internet Juggalo Shows every damn week to just sitting there while J yammers on! (which is still VERY entertaining but, c’mon). What is the true fallout from this Young Wicked shit as it applies TO ME?!? An END USER. IDGAF about who is on what label and who gets their paycheck from what! I JUST WANT TO GO TO THE FUCKING CARNIVAL AND SEE THE SHOW! “The Show” was, is and always WILL BE *ICP, Twizted, Blaze, ABK, Mike E. Clark and even fuckin’ Sugar Slam*; with all it’s super groups and combinations of players between each other… THAT is THE SHOW.

These people don’t have to like it but what I  don’t like, is having to chase these fuckers down now in order to get the thing that THEY ALL KNOW is what makes them their monies and that is the fuckin’ DARK CARNIVAL!

Axel Rose will never NOT be THE lead singer of Guns n’ Roses any more than a caption of a picture of Slash will EVER say, “Pictured at right: Slash, lead guitarist for Slash’s Snake Pit” BEFORE it mentions GnR! Paul McCartney will never NOT be a Beatle any less than his other band “Wings” will ever be considered as important (or he’ll ever stop getting paid to sing “Hey, Jude”) and more pertinently, will anyone ever wanna listen to anything else he does for the rest of his life MORE than what he did AS a Beatle!

Even though all of the above artists have all always had their their own definitive thing going on with them, it doesn’t change the fact that they were all essentially part of THE SAME BAND. They can all go off and do their own things now but they are all PERMANENTLY attached to each other as ALL of their successes have come about if not only for the help of the other. FACT! Debate all you want, ICP didn’t “go off” until they snapped up Twizted and Twizted didn’t get theirs until ICP put them up… FACT!

The bullshit all of this has become is the PERSONIFICATION of the adage “Cutting off your nose to spite your face”.

What is the fucking end game with all this?! Psychopathic becomes a one act record label and MNE continues snatch up their disgruntled castaways with still “playing along” with their event attendance and group participation to things like the Gathering or Dark Lotus/Rydas  performances for fear of REALLY losing their fan bases?

OR… maybe…

Psychopathic and MNE are like divorced parents and juggalos are the children stuck in the middle getting pulled around by visitation times decided by some other third party…

…only MNE is acting like the parent that doesn’t really want the kids as often because they’re trying to go on more dates and meet “different people” and Psychopathic is acting like the parent that dotes on the children in-between “taking classes” around town to learn new things and enjoying “finding themselves again”… BOTH while still keeping each other on speed dial for the occasional booty call because they BOTH know that maybe with the right amount of alcohol and a bowl or two between ’em, they’re still willing to fuck with each other and tear up the divorce papers.

 

Fuck the bullshit, folks.

Not you.

Them.

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King Lucem Ferre said

even if you magically knew this ahead of time… 

so?   

It’s not magic it’s logic.

So all of these people, not you Scruffy, are openly willing to spend time and money to do something that you all know probably won’t accomplish anything, all for a cause that is so little compared to the woes of the rest of the world, isn’t even the biggest act of discrimination in the country alone, and are going to be upset when Twiztid doesn’t want to participate? Now, are people really going because they feel this is a big issue that needs to be addressed this way or are these people going to hang out and have a good time with juggalos? Is this going to be one of those anti Trump bandwagon rallies where people go to socialize and feel self important when they really don’t know shit about politics? I’d personally go to make me feel self important or better about trying to change something but at the same time I’d feel like a selfish piece of shit for not ever getting involved in protests or marches with a better cause behind it.  

 

Well for me it is worth my time, its about the only thing in this fucked up that i can proudly stand behind. Maybe other things are more  important to you in this world, but in my world its juggalo.

I guess its cuz im white and aint got nothing else to complain about. Even tho i cant get any gov assistance cuz im not a “minority” or have any kids.

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sorry, this was sposed to be with the last post. 

King Lucem Ferre said
even if you magically knew this ahead of time… 
so?   

It’s not magic it’s logic.   

yeah, uh i… 

stay with me, dog. 

So all of these people, not you Scruffy, … [et cetera, savin space]

okay, you are making it a point to say that this dont apply to me, but still leaves ‘all these people’ kinda wide open.  lot more points of view than just ‘everybodys’. 

you did see my response, when you asked me what to expect, right?  that applies to the event itself as much as the aftermath. 

i cant tell ya whats gonna happen.  just why i wanna be there for it. 

 

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[see above] 

deep. 

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Makaveli said
 I’m guessing nobody knows why, but any theories as to why ICP or whoever runs the march site originally put twiztid on the accepted list? 

The same reason they stated Blaze was off the label when Twiztid left even thought they didn’t discuss it with him first..?

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Here’s a must read for weed smokers who plan to attend:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/02/24/everything-you-need-to-know-to-stay-out-of-jail-when-pot-is-legal-in-d-c/?utm_term=.5f3bb2e45861

In summary, no legal smoking anywhere in public (including in cars on public streets) and although u can legally possess up to 2 ounces of pot in D.C. THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO FEDERALLY ADMINISTERED LAND SUCH AS THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL.

I think we just found out why MNE won’t be there.

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