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DISCUSSION: Twiztid Declining the DC march
January 4, 2017
5:18 pm
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To make sure threads dont get derailed, this thread is born.

So are they really that selfish not to attend the march for us, the juggalos.

January 4, 2017
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I’m shocked.  I think they’ll still end up going once they realize that even Juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE are like fuck them over this shit.  I don’t see them making it as a label or as artists without the support of Juggalos, so if they try to distance themselves from us then that would literally be the dumbest decision they could make.  Regardless of their drama with psy, they need to be at the march for the Juggalos.    

Where was that thing posted at, and is it still up?

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January 4, 2017
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No. 

January 4, 2017
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JC said
I’m shocked.  I think they’ll still end up going once they realize that even Juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE are like fuck them over this shit.

This won’t happen because us juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE (like myself) don’t give a fuck and aren’t living and dying on decisions made by grown adults other than ourselves.

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January 4, 2017
5:34 pm
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Well I’m talking to several twiztid fans, one of which who has never even liked ICP, and they still think it’s fucked.  Obviously not everyone is going to agree but I still think there will be enough juggalos who prefer twiztid who disagree with their decision to decline that it will at least make them think about it.  Not that I think they will definitely be there or anything, just saying that my initial reaction of “fuck twiztid/mne then” should probably wait until I’m at the march and they either are or are not there.  

January 4, 2017
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But isn’t the march about the whole movement of clearing the juggalo name and not about who shows/who doesn’t show?

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January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said

JC said
I’m shocked.  I think they’ll still end up going once they realize that even Juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE are like fuck them over this shit.

This won’t happen because us juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE (like myself) don’t give a fuck and aren’t living and dying on decisions made by grown adults other than ourselves.  

From what i can tell, the ones who prefer twiztid over icp are those damn millenials. Are u a millenial?

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January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said  
But isn’t the march about the whole movement of clearing the juggalo name and not about who shows/who doesn’t show?   

there it is. 

 

although, to some extant, it is about who shows.  just that it definitely is not about who dont.  for my part. 

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January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said

JC said
I’m shocked.  I think they’ll still end up going once they realize that even Juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE are like fuck them over this shit.

This won’t happen because us juggalos who prefer Twiztid/MNE (like myself) don’t give a fuck and aren’t living and dying on decisions made by grown adults other than ourselves.  

This.

 

And no, this is not them turning their backs on juggalos. They are still doing the juggalo day show with ICP. Perhaps they all think this is a bad idea.

 

Personally I’d attend it if I could, but at the end of the day what does anybody really think this march will accomplish? They are going to look out and think “wow, these juggalos really mean business, lets take them off the FBI gang list… wait, they are already off the FBI gang list?” Plus, I don’t think turning it into a live concert with all these artists is a good idea at all.

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January 4, 2017
5:42 pm
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I’m not happy about this, but it has nothing to do with the march or twiztid ‘turning their backs on me’ or whatever, I’m just worried about the future of Psychopathic and MNE working together. Who knows what the future holds as far as Twiztid/Blaze showing up at the gathering and any possible Rydas/Lotus projects. That’s what I’m more concerned with.

I personally never cared for this march anyways and think it’s a dumb idea. But I have been reading comments on twiztid and MNE’s FB page today, and the reactions are very split..Tons of juggalos are pissed, but then some are defending them too. I’d say it’s around 60% against their decision, 40% support it. 

Things certainly aren’t looking too good in the juggalo world right now, things could really get interesting here soon. 

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January 4, 2017
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

From what i can tell, the ones who prefer twiztid over icp are those damn millenials. Are u a millenial?  

Idk, born in 1989… Not sure what that makes me lol. Started listening to ICP around 1999, Twiztid not until about 2004

January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said

Idk, born in 1989… Not sure what that makes me lol. Started listening to ICP around 1999, Twiztid not until about 2004  

 

Interesting, I’m curious as to how you managed to listen to ICP and I assume follow their careers from 99-04 without listening or getting into twiztid? Twiztid were all over the place with ICP during those years. 

 

Sorry to get off topic here, but I just had to ask lol.

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Carnivalkilla44 said
But isn’t the march about the whole movement of clearing the juggalo name and not about who shows/who doesn’t show?  

Ya but its about us and they are saying they dont care about us.

If there was no list, just an unofficial list we, the fans, made up…would you still feel they way you do now. We all would naturally assume most of everyone at mne would be there. And this announcement would still have the same outcome, twiztid are only in it for themselves, not the juggalo consumer.

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January 4, 2017
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doom, gloom, its the end times. 

sorry. 

 

lemme ask…  who knew what the future held last year?  in 2012?  in 2004? 

would it have been worth worrying then? 

 

i support the decisions of those attending. 

 

for those who arent, i dont especially care, unless they got some negative shit to say about juggalos.  so far, i aint seen any. 

i mean, i surely aint givin em props for it, cuz it aint like they are achieving anything. 

 

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Ya but its about us and they are saying they dont care about us.

actually, they didnt say that.  you inferred it. 

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January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said
But isn’t the march about the whole movement of clearing the juggalo name and not about who shows/who doesn’t show?  

yeah I’m not sure why people are complaining about the actual concerts themselves because who is playing should literally have no influence on whether a person goes to the march or not.  

BUT the fact that an artist is either there or not there to either show support to Juggalos and/or to speak out against discrimination matters to me.  If an artist declined because they aren’t really into juggalo culture and they just don’t do political things (like they are against the idea of protests in general or something- kind of like how krunk and psyral are, if I remember correctly) then that wouldn’t bother me at all, but the fact that juggalo artists aren’t there to support juggalos OR political artists aren’t there to speak out against discrimination I think is wrong.  

Anyways I think the whole free concert thing is dumb to begin with and shouldn’t even be a thing (though I think it’s a nice thing that psy was trying to do for us, I have several reasons for why I don’t like the idea).  Are these artists declining the march, or the concert?  

January 4, 2017
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Carnivalkilla44 said

Idk, born in 1989… Not sure what that makes me lol. Started listening to ICP around 1999, Twiztid not until about 2004  

Technically I think you are at the very beginning of the millennial cut off, or the very end of the Gen X cut off. Either way, the anti millennial bullshit is just a sign of bitter old people. All old people think the generation younger than them is the worst generation of all time. Blame the world’s problems on the younger generation and etc. even though the worlds problems come form generations before us, the younger people are making the world better to live in consistently and the lack of values a younger generation has would ultimately have to be partially put on the generation that was supposed to teach them these values. Eh, I shouldn’t have to explain why it’s stupid.

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Makaveli said

 

Interesting, I’m curious as to how you managed to listen to ICP and I assume follow their careers from 99-04 without listening or getting into twiztid? Twiztid were all over the place with ICP during those years. 

 

Sorry to get off topic here, but I just had to ask lol.  

I mean I heard Twiztid during that time sure, but didn’t buy and album until Green Book. Idk…?

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January 4, 2017
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… Either way, the anti millennial bullshit is just a sign of bitter old people…   

was joke.  aimed at jc. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2017
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

Ya but its about us and they are saying they dont care about us.

If there was no list, just an unofficial list we, the fans, made up…would you still feel they way you do now. We all would naturally assume most of everyone at mne would be there. And this announcement would still have the same outcome, twiztid are only in it for themselves, not the juggalo consumer.  

They are not saying they don’t care. Does that mean that every juggalo that doesn’t attend doesn’t care? Except for Killa C. Killa C does not care.

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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

Ya but its about us and they are saying they dont care about us.

Really, I didn’t say were they say that…?

If there was no list, just an unofficial list we, the fans, made up…would you still feel they way you do now.

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