a bit off topic, yeah, but hell, its four in the morning here.  sophisticated technical breakdown of flstudio is interesting, but not so engrossing that a break isnt tolerable.

[edit]  just realized i said 'main stage'.  there was only one stage in novi.  ive really gotten used to the modern gotj format. 

Lucem Ferre said:

The FL Multiband Compressor is a piece of shit compared to Maximus.

yup.  although, i dont know that maximus will work well as an inline [insert] effect.  six copies of maximus will probably slow things way down. 

i, uh, havent done any productioning since this shit started, but i intend to get into hardcore whenever i do, based on what you were saying. 

S.W.I.T.C.H. said:

What do ya'll use to get that way down bass boom on sub hits?  I've tried everything but can't seem to get it to sound like the shit you hear from pro's.  HELP!

depends on what you mean by 'way down bass boom on sub hits'.  you mean kicks, basslines, what?  they have different qualities, and different problems. 

most peoples ears have a hard time picking out bass that is below around 25-50 hertz, so, simply adding lower and lower undertones wont help much.  in fact, to get the right perceptive effect, its possible that youd need to add much higher overtones.  id need to hear a clear example to be specific on that.

you generally wont want to use the pitch shifters. 

most of the various presets for the synth instruments are opitimized for c3-c5, extending one or two octaves higher or lower according to the voices intent.  so, you cant always rely on those. 

direct sampling may work, except that its not common to find a clean sample of that nature, you cant use it again without sounding repetitive [this doesnt stop most rap producers], and as lucem has pointed out, resampling across the scale will introduce artifacts all over the place. 

best thing is to synthesize it yourself.  you need to get familiar with sytrus, harmor, or especially [for starters] 3xosc.  3xosc is an additive synth with up to three components.  to begin with, turn of the latter two, then work your way through the waveforms in various combinations of volume, octave, etc.  then add another waveform, test the possible combinations with the first, continue accordingly.

when you feel you have a grasp of additive synthesis, move to an fm synth.  sytrus is my usual choice. 

now, sytrus [and every other fm synth] is not the easiest thing to use.  you really need to take a little time to understand how it works, but once youve got it, it will serve you well. 

what i do for subbass [for basslines, anyway], is first use a voice like boobass, for example, to compose the phrases and get them in the right octave.  then, i replace boobass with sytrus [replace, do not overlay].  starting with one oscillator, usually a sine wave but not necessarily, i add modulators, one at a time, with small adjustments, to give the output a more interesting quality.  the modulators [betas] dont have to be, and mostly shouldnt be, perfectly harmonic with the first osc.  the spectral and amp [volume] envelopes are very important at this point, and will also need adjustment. 

if you want some extra boom from the kicks, synth a subbass voice with a real slow attack time, quick decay and slight sustain, and lay that over the kicks.  ideally, youd control the subbass dynamicly, with the peak controller, or some similar controller.

i realize that this is way technical and may seem like greek.  thats how it goes, the learning curve for this stuff isnt a curve, its more like a series of walls.  if you want the effect the pros can achieve, sorry, but you gotta learn to do it like a pro.  the good news is, once you know the technique[s], you can apply the principles to all of your music, and in theory, expand the possibilities of what sounds you can acheive. 

wouldnt have to be fl studio, i suppose.  although that is the thread title. 

the majority of music ive recorded was composed with various electronic instruments using midi connections.  also, ive done live recordings, both sessions and shows. 

anything to do with engineering, production, post, all that fun stuff. 

Lucem Ferre said:

scruffy said:

splitting this into a seperate post,

im trying to figure a convenient way to put up examples for yall.  lucem ferre recommended soundcloud, i believe, havent gotten around to that yet. 

if i can get one of the file hosters to work, would you producer types out there be interested in a 'school' of that nature?  im not talking about 'scruffy knows all and tells all!' here, it should still be more of a panel discussion type of thing, where we all voice our thoughts and ideas.  but with the ultimate goal of being, for lack of a better term, a 'school' for the aspiring producer. 

what say?  id like to do it, but not if nobody cares. 

I'd be down.

that is good, because im not too sure im getting this shit together right. 

needs a name, for one thing, something to call it, especially for the main links, which have to be unique.  ive tried using assorted quick names, like 'flums' [for faygoluvers unknown musician school], but it barked and refused.  already taken, i assume. 

at any rate, youve [lucem] got the jump on me as far as soundcloud, and file hosting in general.  can multiple users utilize a single account?  looks like it.  got a half dozen other points to consider, too.

like i say, though, it isnt really necessary to set all this crap up, just to chat about production, but it would be a major help to all, to be able to put examples up, for claritys sake.