11:43 pm
September 8, 2012
bayAreaShaman said
Anxiety to me feels like a feeling of impending doom.
This is pretty much how I would describe it. Mine is not really social anxiety (I’m pretty introverted, but I don’t get abnormally uncomfortable in most social situations), but it’smore of a general “something is going to go wrong any second and it’s gonna be the worst thing ever” kind of thing.
For example…the worst part of the GOTJ by far for me is getting my vehicle inside and finding a camping and parking spot.
My mind is like…”Ok, we’re moving. I’ve got to get into a good position to get in quickly, else every good camping site will be gone. But I don’t want to be a douche and cut off bunches of people in front of me. Fuck it, I’ve gotta get in as quickly as possible. Oh God, what if someone hits my truck on the way in? Damaging my truck would SUCK and I’d be pissed the rest of the time. Too many people are going in in front of me. They’re all going to get the flat, shady spots and I will be stuck sleeping on a hill in the sun. I won’t get any comfortable sleep, and will be too exhausted to enjoy the GOTJ this year. What if I get stuck in a muddy area and my truck gets stuck? Ok, I’m in the gate. Fuck, look at all these people already camped in the best spots. I’m doomed. I will never find a comfortable spot this year. I will be miles away from everything, will be sweaty from being in the sun and will be exhausted. This Gathering is gonna suck. Oh wait, there’s a great spot. I’m good.”
Or…
“Shit, I slept until 10am. I’ve gotta be at the ICP seminar by 2pm. If I don’t get up now, I’ll never be able to get a shower, get lunch and do my makeup before the seminar. The line for the shower is probably 2 hours long. If I can’t get a shower, I’m gonna be a sweaty disgusting mess. Oh God, what if I end up being that smelly fat bitch that people don’t want to be near today? Am I going to end up in pictures from the ICP seminar and people will make fun of how disgusting I was? Someone’s gonna take a picture of me, make a meme of it and I’ll be all over the internet. Shit, I’ve been sitting here worrying for 15 minutes! I need a shower RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Oh look, no wait at the showers. I’m good.”
It sucks, for real.
-Jules
12:05 am
January 5, 2015
OCJ_Brendan said
RobTidwell said
Unfortunately, it’s the best i can do and the bus ticket is already purchased. I’m going by myself and I’m probably going to sleep in my car if possible so I’m not overly worried about the camping spot.
I would look into changing the bus ticket homie. I took AMTRAK a bit ago on a business trip and made four edits with no charge as meeting times changed. I can’t imagine Greyhound would be much different as long as the seat is equivalent. The parking lot party is a lot of fun.
i wish i could but it really isn’t possible. Maybe next year, if i can make it at all. Thanks for telling me about it though.

1:12 am
October 30, 2013
entrappedmind said
Um, yeah, okay… For future reference… Do whatever you wanna do, man. Don’t let my kid’s presence crimp your style. If someone around me does something I don’t approve of or want my kid to witness, I remove my kid from the situation. I don’t expect other people’s behavior to do my parenting for me. :) Seriously, bro. Hang out some more this year.
Aw, no. Don’t get me wrong. I appreciate the sentiment, it’s just, like, I got respect for family (both figurative and literal) and kids. You guys invited ME over to YOUR area so I wasn’t about to just “spread out” like that having just met you all.
It may be The Gathering but it’s not like I forget my civilities after I walk in. Little dude’s there to see and experience shit too! I wouldn’t want to have to put you (or anyone) in a position of having to shield anyone’s eyes from anything *I was doing, “Do not stare directly AT the potato!”.
Just my own personal party rule I follow any other day. Keeps me in check when I’m gettin’ reckless. As long as my shit doesn’t prevent anyone else from enjoying theirs… But I know what yer sayin’.
Yeah, I plan to be more engaged this year. I got you guys to look out for. I got last year’s camp mates to look out for. A bunch of YouTube peeps to scan the crowd, keepin’ an eye out for.
And then there’s the fact that there’s this merch thing called the “Powerup Club” that rents out battery chargers so I’ll be able to shoot more pictures and video (if I don’t end up buying some similar gizmo myself).
Much more at ease.
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1:15 am
February 13, 2015
VeryTwiztidRaven said
bayAreaShaman said
Anxiety to me feels like a feeling of impending doom.
This is pretty much how I would describe it. Mine is not really social anxiety (I’m pretty introverted, but I don’t get abnormally uncomfortable in most social situations), but it’smore of a general “something is going to go wrong any second and it’s gonna be the worst thing ever” kind of thing.
For example…the worst part of the GOTJ by far for me is getting my vehicle inside and finding a camping and parking spot.
My mind is like…”Ok, we’re moving. I’ve got to get into a good position to get in quickly, else every good camping site will be gone. But I don’t want to be a douche and cut off bunches of people in front of me. Fuck it, I’ve gotta get in as quickly as possible. Oh God, what if someone hits my truck on the way in? Damaging my truck would SUCK and I’d be pissed the rest of the time. Too many people are going in in front of me. They’re all going to get the flat, shady spots and I will be stuck sleeping on a hill in the sun. I won’t get any comfortable sleep, and will be too exhausted to enjoy the GOTJ this year. What if I get stuck in a muddy area and my truck gets stuck? Ok, I’m in the gate. Fuck, look at all these people already camped in the best spots. I’m doomed. I will never find a comfortable spot this year. I will be miles away from everything, will be sweaty from being in the sun and will be exhausted. This Gathering is gonna suck. Oh wait, there’s a great spot. I’m good.”
Or…
“Shit, I slept until 10am. I’ve gotta be at the ICP seminar by 2pm. If I don’t get up now, I’ll never be able to get a shower, get lunch and do my makeup before the seminar. The line for the shower is probably 2 hours long. If I can’t get a shower, I’m gonna be a sweaty disgusting mess. Oh God, what if I end up being that smelly fat bitch that people don’t want to be near today? Am I going to end up in pictures from the ICP seminar and people will make fun of how disgusting I was? Someone’s gonna take a picture of me, make a meme of it and I’ll be all over the internet. Shit, I’ve been sitting here worrying for 15 minutes! I need a shower RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Oh look, no wait at the showers. I’m good.”
It sucks, for real.
-Jules
Yeah it sucks big time.
I havnt yet to experience that yet but i will. Im hoping it all goes well and the rental doesn’t get messed up. Im sure itll be fine but i dont wanna fuck up and waste a bunch of time cuz i messed up.
Im sure no one would think those things of u and if they do they can fuck off.
My stuff is pretty like random and irrational. Like at random stuff at random times. I think its just there and is waiting for an opportunity to lach on. I read ur review and liked it. Me and my girl might be able to help you out. Not on ur review (by the way u marking one this year?) but just in general. Dont wanna say what incase it doesn’t happen. Dont ask. Lol.
We just cant let things like that ruin our good time! If sure it wont stop u. U always got ur faygo homies. My camps open for anyone on here that might need help. I just hope i can help.
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7:09 am
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February 15, 2014
I just don’t understand the anxiety thing. Never had it. I can speak in front of large crowds without a problem. I don’t care if someone takes pictures of me that is unflattering and I end up on the internet. I just am not bothered by what “might” happen. Sometimes bad things do happen but it is usually something that no matter how much time I would have spent worrying about it, it would not have made any difference. I agree that anxiety is a form of fear. If your actions are based on fear, it will be mindless action. Yeah, it may be necessary in some circumstances but most circumstances turn out better with mindful action instead of actions based on fear. Fear and anxiety should be the flag that turns on a part of your brain to help you deal with something. Once that part of your brain is active, drop the fear and use reason and logic.
But all of this above advice is from someone who doesn’t really experience anxiety so it may bad advice. Looking at it from my standpoint, I don’t understand how something that seems so easy to overlook and overcome can be such an inhibiting element in anyone’s life. I see it as something that occurs that you simply choose to let it dictate your action or mood.
If you are fearful – choose not to be.
If you are anxious – choose not to be.
If you are fearful of being anxious – choose not to be.
That’s all of the advice I can give on something I really don’t know shit about. It is all based on what I see as the power of choice. If I don’t like the way I am thinking about something, I choose to think a different way. It’s that simple. It doesn’t change the circumstances, but it changes my mindset.
7:32 am
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May 22, 2012
youve clearly never been shot at. lucky.
Psyral Infection said
If your actions are based on fear, it will be mindless action.
not ‘will be’, ‘might be’.
most times in our lives, for most people, fear will keep you out of trouble, more than it will cause you trouble.
fear is healthy and normal. succumbing to fear, thats different.
[edit] typo fix.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
1:27 pm
June 13, 2013
Scruffy said
youve clearly never been shot at. lucky.Psyral Infection said
If your actions are based on fear, it will be mindless action.not ‘will be’, ‘might be’.
most times in our lives, for most people, fear will keep you out of trouble, more than it will cause you trouble.
fear is healthy and normal. succumbing to fear, thats different.
[edit] typo fix.
Fear is what makes a decent human being.
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2:00 pm
October 30, 2013
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2:55 pm
March 8, 2014
Forgive me for saying so, and with all due respect… Y’all don’t have the faintest goddamn idea what I’m talking about. And like I said earlier, maybe I’m just not describing it correctly, so that’d be my fault. Maybe using the term anxiety was a mistake, as that seems to be minimizing it.
If y’all insist upon using the psychological “degrees of fear” bit to define what I’m talking about, then let’s call it panic rather than anxiety. And it’s not a sporadic or momentary thing – I have more bad moments than good. I’d say I spend about 65% of any given day in dread of one thing or another.
It’s not something I really enjoy talking about, but now that I’ve put it out there, I feel obligated to defend myself, so to speak… For me, I can’t speak for anyone else, but for me… It has nothing to do with fear. I’ve rarely felt “fear” – as a kid, I was afraid of the dark, and as an adult, I’m afraid of heights. And as I mentioned earlier, that fear is what makes it a thrill to face those situations. What I face minute to minute, hour to hour, day to day… There’s no thrill to be gotten from that. Only relief once it’s either over or once I manage to avoid it.
Again, sorry to sound defensive, but this is an argument I’ve been having since I was old enough to recognize my ailment (or psychosis, if you prefer) for what it was. Psyral, in particular – I can’t describe how frustrating it is to hear “Choose not to be…” given to me as a solution. I’m strong-willed enough, that if that were an option, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But there’s no choice involved in the matter. I know you weren’t trying to be a dick by saying that, and you likely had no idea that it’d trigger a rant such as this, so I apologize for singling you out. But it is what it is.
We’re talking about a chemical imbalance here – there’s nothing rational about that. You either medicate to balance your brain, or you fight through it. I choose, as I have for the last 25+ years, to fight – even though it’s, admittedly, a losing battle.
6:32 pm
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May 22, 2012
entrappedmind said
Forgive me for saying so, and with all due respect… Y’all don’t have the faintest goddamn idea what I’m talking about.
oh, i know precisely what youre talkin bout. we just have differing points of view on the ‘why’ of it. and, possibly, on what to do about it.
whether anxiety is a form of fear, or a separate emotion, is not relevant to me, because the same principles tend to apply to both. i happen to believe the former, but it still doesnt matter.
im legitimately wondering if were distantly related, or sumn.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
6:41 pm
March 8, 2014
scruffy said
entrappedmind said
Forgive me for saying so, and with all due respect… Y’all don’t have the faintest goddamn idea what I’m talking about.oh, i know precisely what youre talkin bout. we just have differing points of view on the ‘why’ of it. and, possibly, on what to do about it.
whether anxiety is a form of fear, or a separate emotion, is not relevant to me, because the same principles tend to apply to both. i happen to believe the former, but it still doesnt matter.
Fair ’nuff, I can accept that.
im legitimately wondering if were distantly related, or sumn.
Speaking of fear… Scary thought.
Oh, and krunk… lol… I swear, you’re the Queen of Memes. ;)
6:43 pm
October 30, 2013
@entrappedmind I was hoping you’d get the Donnie Darko reference. Have you seen the movie?
What was supposed to be funny about it was the fact that nothing they were talking about had anything to do with fear…
And yes, I know what you are talking about. I was once in a long relationship with someone who had OCD brought on by her mother’s diagnosis of terminal cancer (and not the anecdotal, cutesy shit people joke about). I get it.
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6:47 pm
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May 22, 2012
entrappedmind said
im legitimately wondering if were distantly related, or sumn.
Speaking of fear… Scary thought.
just sayin.
my family has a much higher proportion of chemical imbalances than most. me and the other ‘crazy’ ones have discussed this stuff at extreme length. its practically the standard coffee and cigarettes conversation.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
6:49 pm
March 8, 2014
scruffy said
entrappedmind said
im legitimately wondering if were distantly related, or sumn.
Speaking of fear… Scary thought.
just sayin.
my family has a much higher proportion of chemical imbalances than most. me and the other ‘crazy’ ones have discussed this stuff at extreme length. its practically the standard coffee and cigarettes conversation.
What’s ironic is that my mom’s adopted. So who the fuck knows? And her own little personal collection of psychoses put mine to shame. And what’s sad is that she won’t seek help or treatment for them either, just like me, so I’m pretty much looking at my own future.
8:18 pm
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February 15, 2014
entrappedmind said
…Psyral, in particular – I can’t describe how frustrating it is to hear “Choose not to be…” given to me as a solution. I’m strong-willed enough, that if that were an option, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. But there’s no choice involved in the matter. I know you weren’t trying to be a dick by saying that, and you likely had no idea that it’d trigger a rant such as this, so I apologize for singling you out. But it is what it is….
Got it. That’s why I qualified it with “But all of this above advice is from someone who doesn’t really experience anxiety so it may bad advice” and “That’s all of the advice I can give on something I really don’t know shit about.” I don’t get it so I don’t understand it and will probably never be able to understand it. At least not from your stand point.
The “choose not to be” has always worked for me. I don’t know if there is a better way for the chemically imbalanced…
maybe something like “medicate yourself not to be?”

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8:28 pm
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May 22, 2012
8:52 pm
September 8, 2012
I agree that fear and anxiety are two different things entirely. I’m scared of tornadoes, but I’m not anxious about tornadoes. I can get anxious about starting a complex project at work, but I’m not scared to do it. I’m sure there is an area where both can be true (like going for a major surgery, which is both scary and anxiety inducing) but they are not the norm. And there is no choosing not to be anxious. I can often times rationalize myself out of being scared of something, but anxiety is not rational. I can be fully aware that my anxiety is completely irrational, and not be able to do anything about it. If you’ve never dealt with anxiety, consider yourselves very lucky!
-Jules
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