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4:04 pm
May 4, 2013
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Jason Caffey said
so has anyone decided to sell or throw out all of their psychopathic merchandise because of this?
has anyone stopped listening to the music?
well then, who gives a fuck. how many possible pedophiles work at pepsi? are you going to stop drinking mountain dew because someone got a job? now if it turned out that this was someone of NOTORIETY, I could see this shit storm, but this is a fucking warehouse worker that probably makes minimum wage, he’s not going to make me shy away from liking ICP
I actually agree. Him working for them now or in the past does not bother me one bit. In fact I find this all amusing. But I very much would like to hear them try to explain this one away. I just wanna hear what they could possibly try to say other then “we’re not sorry that we tricked you” ha!
5:33 pm
April 27, 2013
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so Psychopathic still hasn’t replied to why he’s still there yet??
6:30 am
October 30, 2013
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jiggles the clown said
Maybe you should try to keep up and pay attention to the conversation instead of making excuses for the clowns.
Gnaw.
I’m quite comfortable here in my old timey rocking chair up on this porch.
You kids go run along ahead. But don’t forget to take your ‘Playskool Pitchfork and Torch’ playsets with you from my lawn… pfft…
I’d just like to put a couple THOUGHTS out there. TO BE SURE… ANYONE that attempts to pull some kinda bullshit like I’ve been through this month and start talking shit to me in “logical fallicies” about this (please refer to my “Open Letter To My FLH Family) that:
[because A => therefore C]
I will fuckin’ “Come at you, Bro!” Cuz if you are incapable of parsing individual discussions of a thing that is the sum of its parts… then you need to shut the fuck up.
First Thought:
People need to stop laying into their usage of the phrase, “Pedo”.
I get it. It’s simple to spell, only four letters and two syllables… Gawd forbid you should be inclined to spell the WHOLE FUCKIN’ WORD and have to pretend like you KNOW the definition of that word.
“Pedophile”
[spoiler]Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person who is diagnosed with pedophilia must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.
Pedophilia is termed pedophilic disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), and the manual defines it as a paraphilia involving intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that have either been acted upon or which cause the person with the attraction distress or interpersonal difficulty. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD-10) defines it as a sexual preference for children of prepubertal or early pubertal age.
In popular usage, the word pedophilia is often applied to any sexual interest in children or the act of child sexual abuse. This use conflates the sexual attraction to prepubescent children with the act of child sexual abuse, and fails to distinguish between attraction to prepubescent and pubescent or post-pubescent minors. Researchers recommend that these imprecise uses be avoided because although people who commit child sexual abuse sometimes exhibit the disorder, child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles unless they have a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children, and the literature indicates the existence of pedophiles who do not molest children.
Pedophilia was first formally recognized and named in the late 19th century. A significant amount of research in the area has taken place since the 1980s. Although mostly documented in men, there are also women who exhibit the disorder, and researchers assume available estimates under represent the true number of female pedophiles. No cure for pedophilia has been developed, but there are therapies that can reduce the incidence of a person committing child sexual abuse. The exact causes of pedophilia have not been conclusively established. Some studies of pedophilia in child sex offenders have correlated it with various neurological abnormalities and psychological pathologies. In the United States, following Kansas v. Hendricks, sex offenders who are diagnosed with certain mental disorders, particularly pedophilia, can be subject to indefinite civil commitment.
Once again, TO BE SURE, I am NOT jumping out in “defense” of Wil… but for the definition and impact of the WORDS being used out there in the juggalo world.
Much like the over-usage of the word ‘rape’ (we “rape” the Earth, we “rape” each other in online games, etc), this constant usage of the label “Pedo”, to those that are not as… informed… as “we are”… calls to mind a MUCH different image of the person in question than ACTUAL events.
Long post made short… Do your rhetoric and Wil a favor and listen to the “Jared Fogle Recordings” (the Subway guy).
THAT is a fuckin’ PEDOPHILE!!! If your fists don’t ball up 10x harder after hearing Jared talk about how he enjoys “feeling little hands on his body”… than you, your vocabulary AND your “calls to arms” are seriously fucked from their foundations UP!
I get it. “Pedo”… Four letters. Two syllables. Easier.
And in the “grand scheme of things”, YES, anyone UNDER our legally and culturally defined age of 18yrs. old can/should/will be considered a CHILD… However, once that suffix of “-teen” gets added to a person’s age… YOU try telling them that when you refuse to buy them a cell phone!
For those that have taken it upon themselves to impugn others without full knowledge… ACT LIKE YOU KNOW and start using some of the more CORRECT terms… “Sexual Predator” OR “Statutory Rapist”.
(of course in “The South”, you get charged with ALL that shit by simply getting booked for “sodomy”).
Everybody around here can say whatever they want on this issue but you will REALLY need to work REAL fuckin’ hard to convince ME to put Wil into that same category as Jared Fogle’s fuckin’ PEDOPHILE ass! Once again, NOT a “defense” of Wil… I just do not see Wil’s situation as being tantamount to him having a stash of stolen baby pictures from mothers of their children in the bathtub or trying to stick his dick into an infant’s mouth or trying to get a toddler to touch him “down there” and keep secrets… To be given the scarlet letter of PEDOPHILE…
Just remember your HATE for Wil the next time you pull yer dick out to jack off, as you use your other hand to navigate your way to “Barely18.com” or “WeAre18.com”… Cuz really… what yer saying about yourself is: “Barely 18? Barely A PEDOPHILE !!!”.
“Phew! Just barely missed that cutt-off! Talk about dodging a bullet! Well… she didn’t… but at least I can’t get arrested for it!
Oh and let’s not even talk about the inherent Catch 22 in all this, that while we must always believe anyone claiming to have been raped; that we also live in a society that prides itself on the fact that a person is “innocent until proven guilty”… but I’m talkin’ to my “Juggalo Homies” that have been locked up “for less”… so how could they NOT “get it, eh?!
[/spoiler]
[insert Howard Stern “Countdown To Consent Clock here]
Second Thought:
“The only true knowledge is in knowing that you know nothing” – Ted Theodore Logan quoting So-Crates
As it would seem that my Vampire parable fell short of education, let me say flatly that everyone talking on the shit side of this discussion seems to have selective rage problems…
“Psychopathic 4 Life” “Down Til The Ground” “ICP Saved My Life” … but when THIS shit comes up… “LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!”
Rather than going down the path of thought as to what would make such a “devout pedophile hater” forgive the transgressions of one for whom the court of public opinion (ie the Juggalo Hate Farms) has deemed a “Pedo”… many want to “Cry Havok!” while at the same time forgetting EVERY other thing they know about every other person involved.
What? Do you need to hear that Psychopathic Records is a FAMILY business ‘one more time’? Do you need to go back and listen to them talk about how Wil has been so helpful to them over the years?
Psychopathic is not some publicly traded company like Warner Brothers Music ‘er some shit.
When they tell us that someone “no longer works for us”, it don’t mean that because YOU have a problem with them that that person isn’t gonna still be invited to the BBQ!
Just because some of you people managed to recognize tattoos n’shit on a blurred out face (carrying a backpack during a lyric about blowing themselves up with a suicide vest), you’ve managed to turn it into “Violent J is still cutting paychecks to a PEDOPHILE!!!”.
[insert methed-out ghetto voice] “You do’an know nut-tin’!”
Like I said, just cuz YOU passed a judgment, doesn’t mean it was shared and it doesn’t mean that they aren’t gonna still see the guy that was MORE than just a “job applicant” they had to “let go”.
IOW, you ain’t ICP’s parents and you don’t get to tell them they can’t play with their friends anymore.
For all YOU know, Wil could’a just been THERE that day and included him but they later thought better of it and blurred his face out (not unlike them replacing Blahzay’s face with Paris Jackson’s head…) but hey, “Conspiracies, m’I’right?!”
Formally, he may have been removed from “public office” but if he was so integral to the operation of the company (however), I don’t know how that affects YOU!
Otis getting Samantha knocked up and destroying several bands, cutting ties and starting a civil war, may… MAY… affect you… but otherwise… as it pertains to THIS particular brand of “righteousness”…
…Yer lickin’ lollipops in the shop windows of ‘Me Not Givin’ A Shit, LLC’.
Third and final thought:
Reverse misogyny or something like it
When boys of a certain age learn what makes their dicks get hard and what holes feel best to stick it in, we say he’s just “succumbing to his baser instincts” but when a girl of the same same age makes the same kinds of decisions, she could ONLY have ever come to them as a result of a MAN convincing them to “give up their virtue”…?
Once again, for this, I’m gonna say I am NOT jumping out to “defend” ANY viewpoint. I just wanna inject a few “thoughts” into the “conversation”… not unlike a penis inserted into a mutually agreeable vagina (or orifice of their choosing) that has been given complicit consent to do so WITH lube and direct eye contact!!!
For those of you that may still have the number ‘2’ or even ‘1’ in the “tens place” of the number of years you’ve been alive on this planet… as well as for those Millennials that think that they sound “know-ed” when they use the word “TROPE”…
This shit was kind of ‘a “thing” in movies and television throughout the 90’s…
AND in consideration of them that learn better through pictures and sounds n’shit, here’s a short list of some things that might “flavor” your views on this “pressing issue that divides us all”[pfft]
(If you ACTUALLY watch these movies and come back with an opinion… I will HONESTLY listen to them WAAAAY closer than if you hadn’t…) and then the conversation can continue.
Because I’m not trying to be sharp to be “RIGHT”… I just think some people are bleeding for the wrong reasons.
Your Netflix/YouTube/Torrent Homework…
Poison Ivy – Cringey as hell but began the trend of “Teenage Fatal Attraction” movies
The Crush – Alicia Silverstone’s pouty mouth before she had children and started using it to chew up and spit out food into her baby’s mouth… seriously… look it up…
…and for you “smart bug” brainy types, here’s the french film adaptation of the movie based on the book where the word came from, “Lolita”… and btw, that’s not even the girl’s real name… [shrug]
ps here’s a song by The Police that might be meaningful to a few…
[and now I’m gonna go make a drink and smoke a bowl]
Deuces
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10:26 am
August 3, 2016
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I agree with what he says about applying the correct language to a situation, but either way, when Cheshyr sees the rails he be like
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Noah Fence10:33 am
March 12, 2012
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All ya gotta do people is search up employee records. And it null and voids why this goddamn topic of debate is back up.
#DontBeStupidStupid #AlwaysFactCheck
4:41 pm
January 19, 2013
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ChildsPlayNinja is just a tubby old queen that rants to a webcam, then uploads that shit to YT. His knowledge is limited, this forum collectively destroys any points he thinks he’s making……and worse yet he’s also a shameless Joe Bruce nutrider.
The “great” Juggalo youtuber has yet to appear imo, but DCFaygoGuy has prolly the best Juggalo channel going right now.
He wipes his ass with CPN.
Oh and Fuck Sigler, hard in the ass.
☕
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dcfaygoguy5:09 pm
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Miklo Velka said
ChildsPlayNinja is just a tubby old queen that rants to a webcam, then uploads that shit to YT. His knowledge is limited, this forum collectively destroys any points he thinks he’s making……and worse yet he’s also a shameless Joe Bruce nutrider.The “great” Juggalo youtuber has yet to appear imo, but DCFaygoGuy has prolly the best Juggalo channel going right now.
He wipes his ass with CPN.
Oh and Fuck Sigler, hard in the ass.
☕
Yea cpn one of the biggest j riders out there, but dc on the same shit usually. U guys can hate on it if u want, but Chuck Reeves has the best channel imo. He really doesn’t seem to be too biased, he calls out whoever and auctually has proof with his shit
12:34 pm
October 8, 2014
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Miklo Velka said
DCFaygoGuy has prolly the best Juggalo channel going right now.
I completely agree. I really dig all the old (but recent) album reviews he does. Keep it going @dcfaygoguy . Long time sub. Your actually the only Juggalo channel I sub to. Most are just god fuckin awful….I feel like I can smell their breath through my fuckin phone….
Edit:
I will say that I did enjoy Big Irish Juggalos vids/channel way back when. He had an interesting outlook on things sometimes. What ever happened to that dude??
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dcfaygoguy2:24 pm
April 15, 2013
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Killa-Mo187 said
All ya gotta do people is search up employee records. And it null and voids why this goddamn topic of debate is back up.
Release the tax returns!!! Love it.
Killa, PSY is not publicly traded. Info is at their discretion to release. Unless you can somehow prove your wild claim with a link to these mythical public “employee records”, I’m going to have to call bullshit on you and ask you to stick it. Besides, I don’t think anyone is denying that is Sigler in the video. Anyone can see it is indeed him. Is he on their payroll? Probably, but in the end I don’t care if he volunteered his time. Putting him in means he represents for PSY and by extension, if you represent for PSY you represent for him. That’s how crews work.
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December 18, 2016
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I watched the video from the guy with the beard (chuck reeves?), I didn’t disagree with what he was saying about the sigler situation, but he was so annoying. Seemed like a pompous twit, and his manner of speaking came across as really affected and corny. Definitely won’t watch any of his crap again.
DCFaygoGuy seems like a super nice dude, I started following him and his girlfriend on IG during DCG Con cause they were posting a lot of pics. Definitely “team ICP,” though, the way beardo was clearly “team Twiztid.” These vloggers (?) would benefit from more objectivity or at least a more nuanced take rather than sort of pledging fealty to one side or the other.
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dcfaygoguy10:40 am
April 15, 2013
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Quite right. All the vloggers I’ve seen have an agenda of some sort. It’s the primary reason I don’t watch them. Plus information moves faster than their productions. You can get fresher news if you dig, youtube channels just regurgitate yesterday’s scuttlebutt, from my experience. A true investigative, impartial news source would be refreshing.
10:34 pm
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May 22, 2012
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jeez.
so get up and go thump the fuck in the head, already.
compulsively whining about him in a forum is… counterproductive. at least.
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MASTERWEEDOawfully paranoid, arent you?
3:00 am
January 4, 2017
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To me it makes icp look like hypocrites because they claim to be so against pedophiles but they employ one also a bad look because there will be kids at the concerts
8:36 am
October 30, 2013
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hippiekush said
To me it makes icp look like hypocrites because they claim to be so against pedophiles but they employ one also a bad look because there will be kids at the concerts
Once again… READ my brutha, READ!
You need to decide what the definition of a pedophile is.
Wil Sigler is not a pedophile. He is AT LEAST a “Statutory Rapist”. He does not fuck babies.
Hypocrites?!
There’s a WORLD of fuckin’ difference between talking about “men who stick their dicks into TODDLERS and ELEMENTARY SCHOOL kids” and teenagers.
You don’t know shit. (not you specifically hippiekush but everyone who speaks similarly)
It’s just easier to say PEDOPHILE because it INCLUDES “fucking babies” in it’s definition making it that much easier to call ICP liars and Sigler a “Pedo”.
Grow up. Just cuz you’ve seen some “fucked up shit” at a Gathering does NOT mean you know ANYTHING about the depths of sexual/psychological depravity that you are ACTUALLY talking about and labeling.
Once AGAIN, I’m gonna tell you fucks, I am NOT “defending” Wil…
I’m trying to make you aware of what REAL pedophilia is and how far off-base you people are when talking shit on ICP for it because *I* know what they mean when they say it [hating pedophiles] when two tracks later they’re talkin’ about “fucking young nedens…” Rape is rape. Just like PEDOPHILIA is the word for FUCKING CHILDREN that don’t even pick their own clothes before sneaking out of the house to meet up with their friends somewhere to “do alcohol and sex”.
An’ not fer nuthin’… I find it ironic that THIS event is one of the ONLY times where “juggalos” are taking full measure of the court’s sentence and findings that was given Wil and we’re all somehow supposed to believe YOU when you tell us a cop fucked with you “for no reason” and got an “unfair” sentence for it…
By that reasoning, I guess you should all give me my “street cred” for having an “Assault With A Deadly Weapon” charge when I was a teenager that got expunged when I turned 18. How’d THAT happen? Why is it RIDICULOUS for me to have been charged for such a thing? How would re-enrolling in the Boy Scouts have played into my sentencing and public service…?
Gee… I guess you’d have to KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO about the situation than what you have to read in a court filling… hmmm?
Here! Ya lazy fucks! Here’s a PEDOPHILE!!! on Phil!!!
…and THIS is what you make Sigler sound like:
BONUS: Not everyone has the willpower of DEADPOOL
ONCE AGAIN, NOT defending Wil… just trying to make you people learn what the REAL evil is behind the words you use in a time where words mean so much more than they used to…
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djscrubb said
Miklo Velka said
DCFaygoGuy has prolly the best Juggalo channel going right now.
I completely agree. I really dig all the old (but recent) album reviews he does. Keep it going @dcfaygoguy . Long time sub. Your actually the only Juggalo channel I sub to. Most are just god fuckin awful….I feel like I can smell their breath through my fuckin phone…
It’s great seeing the amount of respect dcfaygoguy gets. He’s been my favorite Juggalo YouTuber since Psychopathic reviews. I subscribed to both dcfaygoguy and CPN but will watch a dcfaygoguy video over CPN any day because CPN is just too one sided and comes off as cocky and arrogant. Don’t even get me started on BoyBlue. He can only brag about his amount of subscribers but does anyone even watch his videos now days? He struggles to muster up more then 100 views now days.
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dcfaygoguy9:22 am
April 15, 2013
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On the streets and in prision a rapist and a child molester are on the same tier. Untouchables. His rape was forcible. Go ahead and defend rapists all you want. Let those true colors shine! Defending a sex offender with semantics? Shameful and sadly predictable.
Scruffy, I don’t see how your recommendation is practical. I’m not a white knight, just trying to hold a company accountable for their hiring decisions. I can’t thump someone I can’t reach. Get real. Fuck trying to sweep this under the rug. That is straight up hoe shit. I will bump this thread until this matter is resolved or I loose attention. I have a different interpretation of counterproductive but again… just semantics.
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On the streets and in prision a rapist and a child molester are on the same tier. Untouchables. His rape was forcible. Go ahead and defend rapists all you want. Let those true colors shine! Defending a sex offender with semantics? Shameful and sadly predictable.Scruffy, I don’t see how your recommendation is practical. I’m not a white knight, just trying to hold a company accountable for their hiring decisions. I can’t thump someone I can’t reach. Get real. Fuck trying to sweep this under the rug. That is straight up hoe shit. I will bump this thread until this matter is resolved or I loose attention. I have a different interpretation of counterproductive but again… just semantics.
it isnt practical. still more practical than whatever the fuck your plan is, here.
i mean, what ‘resolved’? you wouldnt let it be ‘resolved’, even if it was. its about as resolved now as its likely to ever get. youre unresolving it. picking at your scabs, almost.
so, what, youve already completely cleaned out the streets in your town? the same streets you just invoked? every single rapish mufucka there is accountable for their shit, along with all of their bosses? you resolved that already, and now its time to go national?
do you really chase down every less-than-completely-clear-cut rape case and complain about their employers, not to the employers themselves, but instead by carryin on ad patheticum on an internet forum filled with people who, for the most part, already agree with the point [if not the sheer unrelenting intensity], of what youre stressin about?
i think not. should i start a thread about your lack of dedication to your own cause, and bump it til i get resolution? i think not.
its ten frames of a wacky ass music video that is already played out, and youre acting like he shot your dog this morning.
this, is drama queenism. you gotta know that, or youre a flat out sucker.
dial it back to levels roughly commensurate with a grownup who has been in the world [not the internet world], id be less inclined to roll my eyes.
@cheshyr – half that applies to you, too, though. bein honest.
@scruffy – why you bein a dick?
@scruffy – cuz i got some very serious, no-bullshit, blood-curdlingly bad news a few hours ago, and the tirading about simp shit like this seems petty as all fuckity fuckin fuck, by comparison.
Whoop Whoop scruffy :
Cheshyrawfully paranoid, arent you?
9:58 am
October 30, 2013
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On the streets and in prision a rapist and a child molester are on the same tier.
Stop watching cable. No it ain’t. You talk like there’s “chivalry” in prison. AGAIN, there is a difference between stuffing something in a baby’s mouth and fuckin’ a THOT without first checking their ID…
I guess YOUR sexual exploits have never been met with a chick that likes to be choked. NOT because of the nitrous-like effects of cutting the blood flow to their brains but because they LIKE having a man’s hands wrapped around their throats… Oh and then there’s the girls that like KNIVES… not “cutters”… but chicks that love having edged blades scraped across their skin… Strictly speaking for myself that enjoy women with FUCKED UP preferences…. Fuck. You. You don’t know SHIT.
Untouchables. His rape was forcible. Go ahead and defend rapists all you want. Let those true colors shine! Defending a sex offender with semantics? Shameful and sadly predictable.
“Predictable”?!? Huh? What the fuck are you talking about you “Word of the Day” Vocabulary Calendar spoutin’ mutherfucker!
WHAT have you “predicted”? That Wil Sigler is lying in wait to RAPE your child should you bring them to Gathering ’17?
F.T.F.O.M.F.
Scruffy, I don’t see how your recommendation is practical. I’m not a white knight, just trying to hold a company accountable for their hiring decisions.
Here’s a way to “hold a company accountable”, FUCK OFF!!!
Bye!
Poof, Pow, Be Gone!
What part of “You hate them”, are you not allowing yourself to come to terms with? Kick rocks! BYE!
Are you still here? Then I guess you enjoy the company of “PEDOPHILES” cuz I still see you talkin’, bitch!
I can’t thump someone I can’t reach. Get real. Fuck trying to sweep this under the rug. That is straight up hoe shit. I will bump this thread until this matter is resolved or I loose attention. I have a different interpretation of counterproductive but again… just semantics.
Riiiiight… NOT a troll…
Once again, you know you don’t work here, right?
And Faygoluvers ain’t fuckin’ TMZ….
But keep logging in on those Blahzay updates you think we’re all “depending” on YOU to “reveal” to us… Piss off.
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10:04 am
April 15, 2013
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I’ve been to prison you can’t tell me shit about that or any of the other erroneous shit you’re rambling about, bitch. You’re about out of times you can call me troll. You might want to pace yourself. Don’t say I didn’t warn you. If I’m trolling why are you bumping the thread? Are you legally retarded or just borderline? I can’t tell.
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