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February 21, 2013
2:03 pm
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What's so bad about Ghetto Rainbows?? The point of that song was to make u go "WTF, this is ICP?" But if you listen to the lyrics it's real life shit and how fucked up the ghetto is. It's supposed to sound mad soft to be funny.

February 21, 2013
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yayyay mighta "projected" but he also brought one of the only reasonable posts to this snowballing thread.

 

i'm not entirely sure where everyone gets this "miserable" twiztid image from...for years now, they seem content and pretty genuinely happy in every clip ive seen. if anything, it seems like they are pigeon-holed into the "negative/horrorcore" scene. That is the double-edge sword of being the only successful act on psychopathic (besides icp ofcourse)-they have a strong, dedicated fanbase, excuse me, "family" but that "family" is very niche and not willing to really respect artistic freedom outside of the "horrorcore" canopy.

 

biggest difference between the two acts is talent...when discussing musical integrity and skill at the craft, your only fooling yourself if you dont realize icp is way passed their prime and only getting worse.i would say the exact opposite goes for twiztid, abominationz was an incredible release and really validated twiztid's talent and how much more they have to offer.

 

if i were J, i would be in panic mode.psychopathic is at a crossroads and desperately needs a total makeover or it will not last much longer.where as twiztid are most likely going to sign with strange and expand their music to a new, supportive fanbase that is sure to bring more success & $$$ than they have experienced in a decade (speculation, but i would be willing to put money on it), psychopathic is fucked. icp was the face of the franchise and twiztid was the faithful soldier carrying the torch...the only act really worth checking on the roster.you are kidding yourself if you don't see how much their departure hurts the label and im sure J knows it (absolutely hates it...but can't deny it)

 

psychopathic doesn't seem interested in capturing relevant/up&coming talent...they don't appear to have an A&R division whatsoever. they have lost their only asset outside of icp and seem content on keeping the ship sailing, no regard for the damage done or the fact that they are capsizing.

 

i mean...legz diamond and the purple gang?...are you fucking serious?...theyre gonna send legz, J's brother, and his babysmomma out there in zoot suits and call it a day?...they need to let go of the "gimmick" aspect and find talent.music is WAY more important than theatrics, they got lucky with twiztid.im extremely excited to see twiztid sign with strange (once psychopathic actually releases them...) and the magic they create in such a thriving environment.having followed both labels for such a long time, its really impressive looking at what strange has become and the talent they have assembled...psychopathic should be scouring the globe for an act such as mayday, ces cru, kaliko, etc...

 

lastly...the infomercials/approach of psychopathic is an insult and embarrassment to any fan...or "juggalo" if you will...ugh...i don't even wanna get started on how counterproductive and hurtful that shit is from a marketing standpoint...speaks volumes for how out of touch and lost the label really is.

 

Thank You *end rant*

February 21, 2013
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I like that PSY is close knit and doesn't sign 20 billion joe shmoes to their label like Strange/Suburbanoize. I just think ICP need to focus on themselves and they'll be good.

February 21, 2013
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I just wasn't feeling ghetto rainbows, at all. I understand the concept that they were going for, it was just something I don't expect to hear from ICP, like Christina Auillera and Tears for Fears cover songs. Some people like that, I'm just not one of them. It doesn't come off like they're trying to make a joke out of it when I listen to it, it sounds like they're serious and going soft. It's okay though, I can just play all the old shit that I love and never seem to get tired of. Most people are feeling MDP, so I'm in the minority opinion, but I'm not gonna lie and say I'm feeling it just because it's ICP. I'd rather watch ICP theatre, that shit is great.

February 21, 2013
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If Twiztid signs to Strange than i'll buy all of Warlocks records. You said Icp is passed their prime. Two records that hit #4 in a row on the top 200 billboard chart is better than #100 on hot 100. Icp is still going strong after two decades of releases. The Legz Diamond record has been needed since the original one was scrapped.

February 21, 2013
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i dont get why everyone thinks that psychopathic needs to be this big, powerhouse super label, competing with all the other labels to sign the next big thing.  even psychopathic seems to think that. 

personally, it wouldnt bother me a bit if they never released anything but icp cds.  that is, assuming that blaze isnt gonna be there, which is apparently up in the air. 

they did shit that way for years, and nobody was bitching about it then. 

psy doesnt need to get bigger and bigger, id say they need to get lean and mean, and with the fewer distractions, we might just get that next milenko that were always pining for. 

 

i partially agree about the infomercials and shit.  i dont see how its counterproductive, if you give up on juggalo life because of that, well, you were just killing time before moving on, anyway.  but, they arent fresh, thats for sure. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 21, 2013
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iLLtheClown said:

If Twiztid signs to Strange than i'll buy all of Warlocks records. You said Icp is passed their prime. Two records that hit #4 in a row on the top 200 billboard chart is better than #100 on hot 100. Icp is still going strong after two decades of releases. The Legz Diamond record has been needed since the original one was scrapped.

they clearly are… you think the new shit is up to par with the shit from the 90s?? sellin units aint got shit to do with makin good music

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February 21, 2013
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No they aren't passed their prime. You'll know when they're passed their prime. They've grown alot.

February 21, 2013
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If they've grown, they need to stop, just my opinion. No one was ever screaming for growth with ICP. I agree with Scruffy, they should just concentrate on ICP, go back to the old days. They can even bring back project born and drop them again, whatever they need to do to bring it back. I personally think that they are past their prime, they're old and rich. Good for them, bad for us. They're still some funny muthafuckas though, it's not like they're lame now. They can just do better, I'm still going to the gathering every year I'm alive still, it's not all about the music. I would miss blaze being around though, dude's cool shit.

February 21, 2013
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If old and rich means they're past their prime then Twiztid, tech n9ne, Ill Bill, Slaine, Slayer, Jay-z and so many more are past their prime.

February 21, 2013
3:41 pm
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I'm with ill, if Twiztid signs to strange I will buy all of warlocks albums. That'll be the most copies he's ever sold at once lol. But it won't happen...

February 21, 2013
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I feel they are past their prime based on the music that they are putting out, it's not as good in my opinion. Old and rich I say is bad for us, because all their classics are some angry shit. Hard to be angry when you're living in a mansion and you spend time with your kids watching yo gabba gabba every single day. I say that's why it's bad for us, but they're lives are great, if I was them I wouldn't change anything either. Slayer is my all time favorite band of all time, you mean to tell me you enjoyed World Painted Blood same as Seasons in the Abyss? Reign in Blood? They're just getting old, Tom Araya literally headbangs grey hair around, his live vocals are also pretty bad. It happens people get old. Tech is certainly past his prime, anyone else you named I don't know well enough to say.

February 21, 2013
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Oh, and twiztid may be old, but they're not rich. I learned that this weekend.

February 21, 2013
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You guys do realize that all his albums are free right? I've never seen a price tag on one, but then again, I don't look at them. I'm not willing to go quite that far, but I'll do this, if twiztid signs with strange I'll stop making fun of warlock. Just because I lose a bet is no reason for my computer to suffer for it.

February 21, 2013
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patjoyce said:

You guys do realize that all his albums are free right? I've never seen a price tag on one, 

this is all true...

but they can donate 50 each to my paypal tho.. & just download the cds straight to their recycle bin...

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February 21, 2013
3:48 pm
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ICP Fans... You aint seen shit yet! We're fuckin HUNGRY! We've only just started. We're gonna blow your minds! Just watch!!!

All you ninjas have seen so far is the bubbles in the water... GODZILLA THE CLOWN IS ABOUT TO SURFACE AND DESTROY THE WHOLE FUCKIN CITY

I still believe smile

February 21, 2013
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im fine with that..

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February 21, 2013
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My recycle bin has never done anything to me, I see no reason to make it suffer.

February 21, 2013
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patjoyce said:

My recycle bin has never done anything to me, I see no reason to make it suffer.

i was talkin to iLL & juggaloj about that.. not you... hence the THEY

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February 21, 2013
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They implies more than one, it could be two, three, or one hundred. Nice try though.

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