So truth is you don't actually hate his music you just hate him as a person?

why you still fuckin with psy then?? aside from twiztid no one on the hatchet's on eshams level.. "funnyness" aside of course lol

i mean as a self proclaimed hip hop head who's into lyrics even you have to admit that

i never said you had to respect them was just curious why you havent stopped fuckin with psy

me personally i have respect for ALL of the legends, pioneers, vets whatever you wanna call em/it cuz i know i wouldnt be here if it wasnt for them laying & building the foundation.. i also feel that anyone who takes hip hop seriously should as well but hey thats my own personal beliefs.. i mean you had a personal unfriendly encounter with esham so i can see where that animosity comes from & i understand it even tho i feel there should still be a layer of respect there even if its very thin regardless tho theres really no reason to hate on other vets who youve never met & im not sayin you do or dont im just statin my opinion on the matter. so yeah i agree i dont respect everyone who's down with this culture i only respect the OGs, cats ive done business with, & cats i think are dope

New song is dope but i agree with mentalcase. I'll always bump the classics but I could see him starting to lose his shit after http://www.com came out. When he signed to Psychopathic I thought that was the greatest news I'd heard in a while and he seemed like he was getting himself back to together. Then he became even more insane than he'd ever been. I thought I was fucked up but he took it to a whole new level. 

Maybe that beating he took at the Warped tour by d12's security fucked his head up more. I mean shit, it was like 30 fucking people smashing his head in.

Cabal said:

New song is dope but i agree with mentalcase. I'll always bump the classics but I could see him starting to lose his shit after http://www.com came out. When he signed to Psychopathic I thought that was the greatest news I'd heard in a while and he seemed like he was getting himself back to together. Then he became even more insane than he'd ever been. I thought I was fucked up but he took it to a whole new level. 

 

Maybe that beating he took at the Warped tour by d12's security fucked his head up more. I mean shit, it was like 30 fucking people smashing his head in.

I was trying to convince the guy on youtube to chill and get help because he was really ruining any sorta respectable image he had left...I'm a big fan of his old stuff and he even had some alright stuff on DMT Sessions but his personality, attitude, and everything else just fucks it up in the end...he needs to get his shit right and maybe he'll come back and put out a great record idk but I dont wanna hear any more half assed, drugged out sounding records honestly

chops said:

whoa aside from twiztid no one on psy is as good as esham???!????! that is the most ridiculous statement ive heard on this entire forum. esham's music is nowhere near icp's these days. they put a lot more into it. esham prolly put 15 mins into that song. fuckin bullshit. i usta love esham. i still wanna collect his discography because he does have a ton of great records, including natas. but he is nowhere near psychopathics level. abk and blaze are better than esham…

i was speakin from a lyrical & overall emcee standpoint.. madrox is clearly the best emcee on psy this is a fact.. & looool icps musics been absolute trash recently & blaze is my fav psy artist but lmaooooo at someone who doesnt even write his own shit being better haha really???

musically wise, that is

I figured that much. You seem to know what good lyrical skill contains. I do too, but I can't enjoyably listen to it unless they know what music is. 

They know what good music is and have mega character. I don't give a fuck if you can battle rap so and so, but can't figure out how to make a great album. Artists over battle rappers anytime. I do appreciate the battle rap scene and support it more than you probably do....but there's a big difference between the two. 

Cabal said:

They know what good music is and have mega character. I don't give a fuck if you can battle rap so and so, but can't figure out how to make a great album. Artists over battle rappers anytime. I do appreciate the battle rap scene and support it more than you probably do....but there's a big difference between the two. 

loooool where did battle rap come from?? & of course i know theres a huge difference between battling & making music but yeah ive bought every kotd ppv event theyve had im not gonna try to front like im their biggest supporter but ive been following the worldwide seen very closely for like 4 solid years now