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December 13, 2015
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Violentdope said

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So don't buy it fag.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

lol.i'll never understand how someone who listens to music such as icp could turn around & not understand the use of the word fag in such a context.

do you turn off the song when icp uses the word?

No but I tell them not to say it when I meet them. It's no different than using the n slur which they won't use.

cool..what do they say to you? im curious..... hypocritical of them when they are against bigots like in confederate flag...if your against racism/bigots you should also be against hateful terms like fag. Hope they figure that out soon....

They've said different things at different times which amount to basically they know urns fucked up but don't think about it woke they're working because it's just part of their language.  And they hope gay juggalos know they don't "mean it like that".

 

December 13, 2015
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Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
wow...

what a deal!

an EP that you got for FREE with 2 added songs and a remix all for the small price of only 10 dollars!

what a score!.......

 

but for realsies, money grab.

So don't buy it fag.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

Did I hurt your feelings? frown

No, you just make juggalos look like bigots and I don't fucks with that.

 

December 14, 2015
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Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
wow...

what a deal!

an EP that you got for FREE with 2 added songs and a remix all for the small price of only 10 dollars!

what a score!.......

 

but for realsies, money grab.

So don't buy it fag.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

Did I hurt your feelings? frown

No, you just make juggalos look like bigots and I don't fucks with that.

lol, when did we start getting so PC on these boards? relax, dude. he's not making anyone look like a bigot. Just take a deep breath and relax... and quit acting like a fag. <---- the proper use, lol. lolwackylol

December 14, 2015
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YakkAttack said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
wow...

what a deal!

an EP that you got for FREE with 2 added songs and a remix all for the small price of only 10 dollars!

what a score!.......

 

but for realsies, money grab.

So don't buy it fag.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

Did I hurt your feelings? frown

No, you just make juggalos look like bigots and I don't fucks with that.

lol, when did we start getting so PC on these boards? relax, dude. he's not making anyone look like a bigot. Just take a deep breath and relax... and quit acting like a fag. wackylol

what are we back in middle school? jesus titty fuckin christ...its not about being PC...its about being a decent human being.

December 14, 2015
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Violentdope said 
...its not about being PC...its about being a decent human being.  

there it is. 

 

back to the ep. 

copy i got wasnt free.  had to get to and get into a gathering, hit up the seminar, and shove around with the rest of the mob waitin to redeem a dumb lil ticket.  thats too much money, time and effort for me to consider it 'free'. 

all things bein equal, id prefer it if psychopathic [and everybody else], would just leave exclusive shit exclusive.  example, it bugs me a lil that you can just buy hallowicked singles.  supposedly tour-exclusive cds.  shit like that. 

in this case, though, its not such a big deal.  gots some new shit, thats nice.  first was good enough to be part of the canon [especially when compared to lost n found], thats nice.  price is a sawbuck plus shipping...  thats not nice. 

 

if they had, say, took only the new cuts, added one or two more maybe, and just called it 'x-tra spooky' at half the price, idve been happier about it.  also woulda been daydreaming.

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

December 14, 2015
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scruffy said

all things bein equal, id prefer it if psychopathic [and everybody else], would just leave exclusive shit exclusive.  example, it bugs me a lil that you can just buy hallowicked singles.  supposedly tour-exclusive cds.  shit like that.

there it is. I completely agree!

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YakkAttack said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
wow...

what a deal!

an EP that you got for FREE with 2 added songs and a remix all for the small price of only 10 dollars!

what a score!.......

 

but for realsies, money grab.

So don't buy it nigger.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

Did I hurt your feelings? frown

No, you just make juggalos look like bigots and I don't fucks with that.

lol, when did we start getting so PC on these boards? relax, dude. he's not making anyone look like a bigot. Just take a deep breath and relax... and quit acting like a nigger. wackylol

You ain't gotta be pc to not use slurs. 

If you don't want people to point out that you're being a bigot, don't be a bigot. 

 

December 14, 2015
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Mr. Tidwell said

YakkAttack said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Mr. Tidwell said

Arnold Schwarzenegger said

Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
wow...

what a deal!

an EP that you got for FREE with 2 added songs and a remix all for the small price of only 10 dollars!

what a score!.......

 

but for realsies, money grab.

So don't buy it nigger.

Take that homophobic shit and jingle all the way the fuck outta here with it. 

Did I hurt your feelings? frown

No, you just make juggalos look like bigots and I don't fucks with that.

lol, when did we start getting so PC on these boards? relax, dude. he's not making anyone look like a bigot. Just take a deep breath and relax... and quit acting like a nigger. wackylol

You ain't gotta be pc to not use slurs. 

If you don't want people to point out that you're being a bigot, don't be a bigot. 

quoted for the sake of quoting. quotable.

if you havent noticed the definition of 'faggot' is changing. alot of people dont use it as a slur anymore. its more to reference toward something or someone the speaker does not like.

also faggot has not always been directed at gay people. see below for a history on the word faggot.

[Perhaps from faggot, variant of fagot, bundle, lump, old woman.]
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.

faggot

(ˈfæɡət) orfagot

n
1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel
2. (Metallurgy) a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
3. (Cookery) a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried
4. a bundle of anything
vb (tr)
5. to collect into a bundle or bundles
6. (Knitting & Sewing)needlework to do faggoting on (a garment, piece of cloth, etc)
[C14: from Old French, perhaps from Greekphakelosbundle]
 
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C20: special use of faggot 1
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n.
late 13c., "bundle of twigs bound up," from Old French fagot "bundle ofsticks" (13c.), of uncertain origin, probably from Italian faggotto, diminutiveof Vulgar Latin *facus, from Latin fascis "bundle of wood" (seefasces ).

Especially used for burning heretics (emblematic of this from 1550s), sothat phrase fire and faggot was used to indicate "punishment of a heretic."Heretics who recanted were required to wear an embroidered figure of afaggot on their sleeve, as an emblem and reminder of what they deserved.

"male homosexual," 1914, American English slang (shortened form fag isfrom 1921), probably from earlier contemptuous term for "woman"(1590s), especially an old and unpleasant one, in reference tofaggot(n.1)"bundle of sticks," as something awkward that has to be carried (cf.baggage "worthless woman," 1590s). It may also be reinforced by Yiddishfaygele "homosexual," literally "little bird." It also may have roots in Britishpublic school slang fag "a junior who does certain duties for a senior"(1785), with suggestions of "catamite," fromfag(v.). This also was used asa verb.

He [the prefect] used to fag me to blow the chapel organ for him.["Boy's Own Paper," 1889]

Other obsolete senses of faggot were "man hired into military servicesimply to fill out the ranks at muster" (1700) and "vote manufactured forparty purposes" (1817).

The oft-reprinted assertion that male homosexuals were called faggotsbecause they were burned at the stake as punishment is an etymologicalurban legend. Burning was sometimes a punishment meted out tohomosexuals in Christian Europe (on the suggestion of the Biblical fate ofSodom and Gomorrah), but in England, where parliament had madehomosexuality a capital offense in 1533, hanging was the methodprescribed. Any use of faggot in connection with public executions had longbecome an English historical obscurity by the time the word began to beused for "male homosexual" in 20th century American slang, whereas thecontemptuous slang word for "woman" (and the other possible sources orinfluences listed here) was in active use. It was used in this sense in early20c. by D.H. Lawrence and James Joyce, among others.

 
 
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and a more current definition of the term dating back as far as 2005.
 
In these times not really used if somebody is really a homosexual mostly used insteap of calling somebody stupid or a loser.
Ralph: Chris hasn't been answering his phone.
John: Yeah, he is probably hanging out with those other kids thats why.
Ralph: He is such a faggot.
John: Yeah him and his faggot friends.
 
 
The only reason why its still a slur is because the gay community holds onto it. leave it alone and eventually noone will even remember that it was a 'hate' word. words arent hurtful, people are. and if you htink words are hurtful then you need to toughen up princess. 
 
December 14, 2015
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Anyway back on topic, just got my copy  today after ordering two days ago. I gotta say at least with the excessive shipping charges from HG I'll take it if it means two day delivery.

December 14, 2015
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as a hilarious side note. every time i got down to the british cafe  near my house for a good old fashion greasy spoon feed, i always grab a couple of faggots. i love to eat faggots. faggots taste awesome in my mouth.

 

@robtidwell - find the slur in that sir. i dare you.

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Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said  

Learning is Fun!

So are songs like Beating Up Hippies for Their Drugs at a Phish Concert :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBCeOZAfMY

Lyrics:

"You’ve got no fucking money and your girlfriend is ugly
So I stole your drugs [x2]
Your van’s a piece of shit with a Dead sticker on it
So I stole your drugs [x2]

First I stole your nitrous
Then I stole your acid
Then I stole your mushrooms
Then I kicked your ass
Then I stole your pot
Then I stole your beer
Then I stole your tickets
And sold them for crack

[Repeat everything]"

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Bigots like you like to use the archaic forms of words as a defense because you assume you're privy to some kind of information that us exclusive to you. You're not. 

You have two choices, stop being a bigot or continue being a bigot and get over people pointing out that you're being a bigot. 

The reason people use it to reference something they don't like is because homosexuality us looked negatively upon by our society. Stop being such a fucking novo and grow the fuck up. Accept responsibility for the choices you're fucking krunk ass makes. You're a shitty person, but that ain't my fault. It's the truth, not your mom so stop crying like a baby. 

 

December 14, 2015
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im not sure i beleive you krunk...

sounded like someone gutting a pig. and the pig wasnt very happy about it.

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Novocaine, The Blue Collar King said
im not sure i beleive you krunk...

sounded like someone gutting a pig. and the pig wasnt very happy about it.

No, that would be the tedious ramblings of the passive-aggressive wordnazis. May Xenu have mercy on their souls. And, Anal Cunt- You Were Too Ugly to Rape, So I Just Beat the Shit out of you could possibly break the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0AbbYx4BDs

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December 14, 2015
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Dissection time kids!

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Bigots like you like to use the archaic forms of words as a defense because you assume you're privy to some kind of information that us exclusive to you. You're not. 

Never claimed i had some secret store of knowledge, its called learning. I knew about the older forms of the word before i knew people were crying over the fact its a 'slur'. my grandad was feeding me faggots pretty much from the time i could walk. your close minded american sensibilities dont apply to me. or to anyone outside of your tiny little rock you call murika.

they still call the food faggot, faggot in the uk and they are labelled clearly as faggots when you goto a english greasy spoon over here.

if i was walking about calling gay people faggots, your arguement that im a bigot might hold some substance. but i know that they dont like it so i dont refer to gay people as faggots. stop being so fucking sensitive. 

you like to act like your open minded and sensitive to cultures far and wide, but your the one being a bigot here, saying that because YOU see faggot as a slur everyone has to and anyone who doesnt agree with you is a bigot.

poor form rob. 

its ok though, i dont hate you. i dont think your a shitty person. just a misguided and brain washed freedom fighter. like the kids they feed heroin to in africa so that they wont have issues with killing there friends and families.

You have two choices, stop being a bigot or continue being a bigot and get over people pointing out that you're being a bigot. 

The only person who thinks im being a bigot here, is you.

tell me exactly what i said that could explain why you would use a hate word like bigot to refer to me?

i never referred to anyone as a faggot. i said the definition of the word is changing and and i showed that the word hasnt always been considered a slur.

i also stated my opinion that if people like you stopped holding onto the word and let it go it would change its form as it has in the past in a few generations noone would even remember that it was a sexual slur. 

(related but not mentioned in your post) stop comparing the F word to the N word. the gay community has had what, 50.... or 60 years of intolerant behaviour. the african community has had well over 500 years of oppression. theres no comparison. hell even the 50 or 60 years gays have suffered oppression is debateable, because the typical homo sexual white person can hide their sexuality. a person of african descent has never had that luxury.

The reason people use it to reference something they don't like is because homosexuality us looked negatively upon by our society. Stop being such a fucking novo and grow the fuck up. Accept responsibility for the choices you're fucking krunk ass makes. You're a shitty person, but that ain't my fault. It's the truth, not your mom so stop crying like a baby. 

No..... maybe at first, but over time people forget things.

your holding onto the negative connatation is part of the problem.

that and anyone who uses what you deem a slur you call a bigot. that shit aint cool. and intolerant.

how can i be anything other than a fucking novo. i am who i am. yeah im a shitty person. but i know and i embrace that. your bashing everyone with the pc bible and caliming its about not beign a shitty person is far worse. because your a shitty person aswell, but you hide behind your mask of brainwashed and misguided freedom fighter.

i see past it though, i see deep down into who you are rob. we are kindred spirits of a sort.

ive always accepted responsibility what i say and do. can you do the same? nah it aint your fault im the devil your eyes and show me where i was crying? because the only person whining over political correctness in this thread is you.

 

ill say it again, just for reiteration, just incase people get the wrong idea and think this is going to way of flame wars.

i dont hate ya rob. i like you. your a cool dude most of the time and i generally respect your opinion. but i wont sit back and let you call me a bigot because your american sensibilities are upset that i dont care if a word offends you. 

December 14, 2015
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Anywho... @carnivalkilla44 should send me these files.

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oh and just to clarify why i wont use the N word and will say faggot.

 

the n word has never had any other meaning.

it is a derivitive of negro which i  believe is spanish for black or dark.

but the N word itself has no other connatations. unless of course you are black, which case it is used as both a slur and a word of affection.

 

again your grounds that the word faggot and the N word are the same are horribly out of place.

 

stop debasing me because i didnt grow up in your shoes.

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Super Wyzard said
Anywho... @carnivalkilla44 should send me these files.

and me

piracy arrrgh!

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Super Wyzard said
Anywho... @carnivalkilla44 should send me these files.

@carnivalkilla44  me too please. And if you do so, I won't feel compelled to add my 2 cents to this off topic "faggot" stuff

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Can the two or three of you talking about faggotism please make a new topic in General Discussions or some shit, instead of derailing a topic about an awesome new EP? That'd be great.

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