vinyllover said

86 said
Who fucking cares?  

Shaggy might. That's the whole thing.

that sounds like something he and possibly his lawyers should be worrying about, then. Not a bunch of dumb fucks on the internet who spend their time gossiping about 40 year old men in clown make up.

Doesnt matter, you still have a little pp.

MASTERWEEDO said

why you looking at it?  

Im glad you asked.

Story time!

It was a few years back that The Mrs and i had our 5th year anniversary. I decided i was going to take her out to one of those really fancy, $13.99, all you can eat joints. The ones with the endless choc fountain and the little rice crispy treats. You know the kinda place. Fancy! So half way thru our meal i got up to use the restroom. Stopped at the first urinal, you know cause i dont sit to pee all the time. When this dude walks up to the urinal beside me, stands about 15 inches away and drops trou to the floor like a kindergartner. I made the cardinal sin of urinal etiquette and looked the dude right square in the eye. He had a slightly hunched back, aluminum foil hat an apron with the name of the place above his left man boob with the name Vinyllover right below it, and was muttering to himself about Chuck Reeves and CPN. Im getting a little ahead of myself, at first when he strolled up he stood about a foot and a half to the right and behind shuffling in his pockets and it sounded like he'd dropped something. So i slightly turned my head and glanced back when he had what appeared to be a white tootsie roll in his finger tips. Id never seen a white tootsie roll. I asked where those were located in the buffet line when he yelled at me to stop staring at his dick. Thats where he walked up beside me. Anyways it was weird and ill never forget that strange man. Needless to say we havent been back to that place.

Although it's hard to tell if CPN is telling the truth that he was given the "okay" to make his videos, or if Chuck Reeves is telling the truth that A or B is true...

a. Did Shaggy at the time of recording his verse for sale (same place and time he did the maximum overlod feature) ALREADY KNOW that his verse was going to be on a UGH cypher? That would mean he was playing dumb the whole time for even CPN and Bobby Roxxx.
Or
b. Did Shaggy LATER change his mind and get in touch with Stir Crazy and say he changed his mind, go ahead and put Jamie’s voice on the outro and not his verse on with my verse so Violent J doesn’t give me a fuckin headache for too long.

At 1:36:45, CPN plays the following from Chuck Reeves’ video:

What you do, in an ambush is you set up a perimeter...(54:00-54:05)

but CPN cuts it off. Let’s see what he leaves out that it’s in the Chuck Reeves video:

and you have crossfire lines. You wait for people to walk in, and you shred them up.
That’s not what happened. There was no thievery here. Money was exchanged for a verse. You can’t testify to another man’s frame of mind. Especially shaggy 2 dope, a man who you spent an hour or more with in the studio but didn’t talk to? For real? But you know all this about him? Cool. From what I know, from the executive producer of the project in question that’s currently making money, Shaggy almost got attacked by a shark. Do you not like that story, bro? Is that story not...I mean...No one could’ve faulted Shaggy (54:05 - 54:53)

And then on CPN’s video now at 1:36:51, guess where it starts again? “No one could’ve faulted Shaggy.” So we see CPN left out the shark story. Almost proving Chuck Reeves’ point. He doesn’t like that story. LOL.

No one could’ve faulted Shaggy. Not you. Not fucking Bob Roxx. Not Joe Bruce.

And CPN stops the Chuck video at 1:37:10. He smacks his own head and talks about how stupid apparently he thinks Chuck is for allegedly misunderstanding CPN in an earlier part of the video, when it was CPN’s own fault because he spoke in a run-on sentence and didn’t clarify an “it” pronoun, which created a dangling modifier grammar fallacy. CPN meant to say Shaggy never agreed to “it” in terms of where the cypher verse went, but when he spoke he made it sound like “it” was in reference to Shaggy not wanting to agree to do a video with him rapping as a toy.

That aside, CPN at 1:37:52 jumps ahead some more in the Chuck video. So let’s see what else CPN didn’t want to acknowledge or debate directly out of Chuck’s mouth:

No one could have faulted Joey for doing the track with the shark story. You realize that right? You were so busy wanting to run to the internet and share this information. You didn’t think to think about who the other information was trying to protect. Because, you’ve now put Shaggy 2 dope in a very precarious position. CPN. You aired out his personal studio business. You aired it out. I didn’t do that. I know better than to air out an artist’s personal business but you don’t. You were in such a hurry to out Shaggy’s personal studio business that you didn’t think ‘oh maybe he did agree. And he just had to make sure Joe didn’t find out about it and get in the way of his pay check.’ You didn’t think about that. Maybe you will now. Probably not.
(54:53 – 56:32)

Now maybe CPN didn't want to waste his time because to him, Chuck is either lying or being lied to. And to his mind, CPN thinks he has the truth so he's just going to keep things short. Again, CPN claims "certain people" were okay with his Facebook videos and the youtube video in question because they knew what was going to be said. And CPN's threat that someone (presumably in the Psychopathic Records camp) is someday going to write a song with a line about people taking verses they shouldn't be, still hangs in the air. He would be the first one to make this song public if it ever was written and released. So far, nothing!

vinyllover said

CPN at 1:37:52 jumps ahead some more in the Chuck video. So let’s see what else CPN didn’t want to acknowledge or debate directly out of Chuck’s mouth:

No one could have faulted Joey for doing the track with the shark story. You realize that right? You were so busy wanting to run to the internet and share this information. You didn’t think to think about who the other information was trying to protect. Because, you’ve now put Shaggy 2 dope in a very precarious position. CPN. You aired out his personal studio business. You aired it out. I didn’t do that. I know better than to air out an artist’s personal business but you don’t. You were in such a hurry to out Shaggy’s personal studio business that you didn’t think ‘oh maybe he did agree. And he just had to make sure Joe didn’t find out about it and get in the way of his pay check.’ You didn’t think about that. Maybe you will now. Probably not.
(54:53 – 56:32)

 

Furthermore, from the Chuck Reeves video

Now if the situation is that he actually knew what he was doing, he's gonna have to explain that to Joe Bruce now. He didn't have to do that before, with the shark story.
(1:18:16 - 1:18:27)

vinyllover said
So ugh 69 was the one with two shaggy features and at least one by chuck reeves.

Here is UGH 70 from MNE. cd slim case
https://www.mnestore.com/UGH-70-Hosted-By-Alla-Xul-Elu_p_2734.html

UGH 70 alterantive cover regular cd case.
https://www.mnestore.com/UGH-70-Hosted-By-Alla-Xul-Elu-Alternate-Cover_p_2735.html

 

UGH 70 vinyl record  selected songs.
https://www.mnestore.com/UGH-70-Hosted-By-Alla-Xul-Elu-12-Vinyl-Record_p_2844.html

Get UGH70 on wax for a limited time on "Scissor Silver" vinyl. We hand picked the hottest tracks on UGH70 and had Tom S. Ray (Madchild, Shaggy 2 Dope) remaster 2 sides of the sickest audio featured on UGH! Vinyl ships immediately!

WTF?

 

Video for the UGH 69 Toy Gory cypher which started this whole controversy.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/2019/09/ugh-toy-gory-cypher-starring-shaggy-2-dope-official-music-video/

Executive Producers: Cody Hellickson & Intrinzik
Produced by: Stir Crazy & Intrinzik
Mixed by: Intrinzik
Mastered by: Tom S. Ray Mastering

So Shaggy didn't just contribute a verse, but also helped with mastering.  

if you look up Tom S. Ray. it's a dude. I think what they mean by "tom S ray(madchild, shaggy 2 dope" is that tom S ray has done mastering for madchild and shaggy.

for example. here's a madchild track before and after being mastered by tom.

Pretty sure he's the one person J can't kick off the label for working with MNE anyway