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Shaggy Was Lied To, verse on UGH cypher was used with permission
September 12, 2019
11:59 am
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Just saw some spice being thrown around on FB. Seems that UGH told Shaggy it was for a single artist’s song. This seems shady as fuck. 

**Without permission

September 12, 2019
12:44 pm
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I can just imagine the meeting at Psychopathic's office yesterday where J, Shaggy and Bill were yelling at each other, pointing fingers.

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September 12, 2019
6:07 pm
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Press X to doubt

If there's one thing you should never do, it's let someone who already hated you sue you.

Think about this.

If you trick someone into doing a song with a bunch of other people, and they call you on out in, RIP your credibility, in the case of UGH, they would forever be known as the pussies that couldn't sell their shit on their own, and had to trick a bigger fish into helping them.

Moreover, he could sue everyone involved, further demolishing their reputation, making them look like shady lowlifes. And annihilating any money they would have gained.

And from twiztid's prospective specifically, not only could you potentially get sued, but you would be have this incident thrown at you for years, there's a rule of arguments, beefs, etc. It goes "never give them something to discredit you with" give your enemies the least amount of ammunition possible.

This would be a GOLDMINE of ammunition, like "wow you're resorting to this?" 

And finally, if this were true, they would have said something already, why would you wait to point out that somebody pulled this shit?

Spill while the tea is hot.

I , mean fuck, Shaggy just joined Instagram, you know what a great post would be? Calling out your rivals for pulling some shit.

Even if you don't think they would sue them, why would ANYONE take that risk?

Stop spreading rumors 

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September 12, 2019
6:34 pm
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Iris The Tranny juggalette said
Press X to doubt

Bullshit, press square. 

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September 12, 2019
7:17 pm
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JiffyLong said

Iris The Tranny juggalette said
Press X to doubt

Bullshit, press square.   

Now I just don't know what to believe.

I see no difference between a corpse and a sex toy

September 12, 2019
7:20 pm
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When in doubt, 'photosynthesis' is the answer...

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September 12, 2019
7:28 pm
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Drunkalo said
When in doubt, 'photosynthesis' is the answer...  

That don't work too well for people.

You ever heard of the Chinese Sun Diet? It was basically people eating next to nothing, and sun bathing for hours on end every day, thinking the sun's rays would make up for the lack of food. 

And through the Placebo effect, it made some feel less hungry and such, tricking them into thinking it was working.

So under that "diet" not only are you effectively anorexic, but you have a huge risk of skin cancer too.

I heard rumors that the Chinese government actually encouraged this during food shortages, because the aforementioned Placebo effect, and the false idea it was healthy, was making people complain about the shortages less.

So I'm gonna have to say no on the photosynthesis.

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September 12, 2019
7:48 pm
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Did it help them grow? Should i give it a shot?

It worked for 9th grade science. Mrs. Dickey had huge boobs. Maybe she photosinthesized?

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September 12, 2019
8:19 pm
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Update: Twiztidofficial is following Shaggy's new Instagram account, and even commented on his first post saying hi.

At the VERY least, Twiztid and Shaggs are getting alone JUST FINE, nobody had to trick anybody.

They want to work together now, and I don't see why he wouldn't want to be on a UGH Cypher as opposed to a normal song. 

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September 12, 2019
8:22 pm
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While you can sue over just about anything, I doubt that this would be a winning lawsuit unless there's a contract that explicitly states they don't own his verse and that they can only use it in specific ways. 

And twiztid are definitely in the clear as it isn't their song or their label. At the very least they could say they had no idea shaggy was gonna be in the song. 

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September 12, 2019
8:30 pm
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Noah Fence said
While you can sue over just about anything, I doubt that this would be a winning lawsuit unless there's a contract that explicitly states they don't own his verse and that they can only use it in specific ways. 

And twiztid are definitely in the clear as it isn't their song or their label. At the very least they could say they had no idea shaggy was gonna be in the song.   

If he had proof that this went against an agreement, at the very least he could blast them.

But no, if there was a contract, Twiztid would not be in the clear so long as they consented to it, they might be if they lied to Twiztid as well, but that feels somewhat unlikely, furthermore, if they lied to Twiztid as well, and there was any form of contract, Twiztid could potentially sue UGH.

And yet again, putting lawsuits aside, they would also likely blast the shit out of them if they were lied to as well, lying and manipulating Twiztid AND Shaggy is fucking suicide, now EVERYONE hates you.

But anyways, you're right, I was rambling when it comes to Law Suits, because it's entirely possible they didn't have a contract, you're supposed to, but, it's whatever.

But yeah, that Instagram thing really does it for me, It's NO coincidence that the first time someone on NME (not counting Bizzare, but he's not really caught up in any of this), let alone twiztid themselves, has followed someone on Psychopathic AT ALL. Happened a DAY after they were on a song together. 

That's not a coincidence, they've made up, don't know about J, don't know about the rest of Psychopathic, but Shaggy and Twiztid have made up, no question. And nobody tricked anybody.

I see no difference between a corpse and a sex toy

September 12, 2019
8:48 pm
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On another note, Shaggs always seemed to not love Jamie and Paul. Listen to some of the Juggalo Show stuff. Shaggs chased em around and wanted to beat their ass for making fun of J doing his "The Way You Make Me Feel" cover. Shaggs said "go smoke some weed! Go smoke some weed! in a threatening way. 

I'm reaching here but it really seemed to me like Joey Utsler doesnt give a fuck about those dudes. 

September 12, 2019
9:00 pm
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Old Mr Dangerous said
On another note, Shaggs always seemed to not love Jamie and Paul. Listen to some of the Juggalo Show stuff. Shaggs chased em around and wanted to beat their ass for making fun of J doing his "The Way You Make Me Feel" cover. Shaggs said "go smoke some weed! Go smoke some weed! in a threatening way. 

I'm reaching here but it really seemed to me like Joey Utsler doesnt give a fuck about those dudes.   

That's how ALL alcoholics treat Stoners...."go burn another one loser before I beat your ass"

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September 12, 2019
9:56 pm
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

That's how ALL alcoholics treat Stoners...."go burn another one loser before I beat your ass"  

To Shaggy's credit, Twiztid were being dicks.

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September 12, 2019
10:27 pm
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Old Mr Dangerous said

To Shaggy's credit, Twiztid were being dicks.  

I didn't have a clue what you were referencing, was just going off what you said....imma lil tipsy off some crown ;)

I thought homies bust eachothers chops all the time,  alcoholics are just temperamental and can't fuck with eachother like stoners can. 

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September 12, 2019
10:56 pm
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

That's how ALL alcoholics treat Stoners...."go burn another one loser before I beat your ass"  

Old Mr Dangerous said
On another note, Shaggs always seemed to not love Jamie and Paul. Listen to some of the Juggalo Show stuff. Shaggs chased em around and wanted to beat their ass for making fun of J doing his "The Way You Make Me Feel" cover. Shaggs said "go smoke some weed! Go smoke some weed! in a threatening way. 

I'm reaching here but it really seemed to me like Joey Utsler doesnt give a fuck about those dudes.   

Could you link me to that particular incident?  

September 12, 2019
11:00 pm
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SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

I didn't have a clue what you were referencing, was just going off what you said....imma lil tipsy off some crown ;)

I thought homies bust eachothers chops all the time,  alcoholics are just temperamental and can't fuck with eachother like stoners can.   

 

On the flipside, alcohol can help folks handle their chops getting busted. Sometimes that blessed herb and trip will get a soul overthinking. It happens.

September 12, 2019
11:01 pm
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Smackblood said

Old Mr Dangerous said
On another note, Shaggs always seemed to not love Jamie and Paul. Listen to some of the Juggalo Show stuff. Shaggs chased em around and wanted to beat their ass for making fun of J doing his "The Way You Make Me Feel" cover. Shaggs said "go smoke some weed! Go smoke some weed! in a threatening way. 
I'm reaching here but it really seemed to me like Joey Utsler doesnt give a fuck about those dudes.   

Could you link me to that particular incident?    

I really could not begin to tell you where that was located. Perhaps look up "The Way You Make Me Feel" by Violent J and try to find where it was on that Juggalo Show box set. 

September 12, 2019
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CPN and Chuck Reeves are going after each other on their own respective facebooks.

 

Twiztid AMBUSHED Shaggy 2 Dopes Verse!!!!
https://www.facebook.com/ChildsPlayNinja/videos/2118466765121896/

Shaggy recorded three verses. One is for someone yet to be announced. One was for maximum overlod. One was Stir Crazy. CPN is alleging that this verse on UGH is one of the three verses HE AND MAX heard Shaggy record months ago. Shaggy saved it for Stir Crazy. And then he gave it to Intrinzik. And allegedly Shaggy didn't know what Intrinzik's plans were. They are claiming therefore that Intrinzik tricked Shaggy therefore. Well nice conspiracy theory, but since Intrinzik saved Shaggy's life, I'm willing to believe that Shaggy GAVE PERMISSION to put his verse on UGH with Jamie Madrox talking on the outro, but not a full verse. I think the more likely story is that Shaggy NEW what Intrinzik wanted to do because Intrinzik was HONEST and TOLD SHAGGY of his intentions/ideas to put him and Jamie together on a song. I'm willing to bet Shaggy said, put my verse on one track, put his on another. I am willing to bet my theory is correct and CPN's conspiracy theory of lies and backstabbing to Shaggy by the MNE crowd is wrong.

https://www.facebook.com/ChildsPlayNinja/videos/391901524849484/
CPN issues one final challenge to Chuck Reeves. He dares Chuck Reeves to disprove him.

Chuck Reeves is pointing out on his facebook that just because CPN is spilling studio facts that he overheard, such as that he heard Shaggy record that verse for Die Nasty, that doesn't prove his conspiracy theory and that Shaggy knew the deal because Intrinzik was honest with him and they reached a compromise.

Dear Childsplayninja
Using overheard studio small talk as facts is some hoe shit lol.
You clearly werent told anything cause it wasnt your business and you've got a huge mouth.. clearly.
Shaggy was saved from potential sharks... that came from one of the EXECTUTIVE PRODUCERS of the UGH 69 Cypher. If SHAGGY has anything to refure that ALLOW HIM, because im sure he didnt tell you or Maximum Ovrlod anything except CASH IN ADVANCE.
So... keep saying he was decieved... the real decievers here are the ones talking about studio talk to make heads look bad.... heads like shaggy.
Does he know you told me about the upcoming Fury feature like I didnt already know?
You guys cant be trusted for shit lol.
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And another.

The world's face when @childsplayninja claimed to know everything about @shaggy.icp appearance on UGH 69... but didnt know who @stircrazymusic was......
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Chuck Reeves facebook again.

At some point today ill be doing a special youtube livestream to refute and discuss Childsplayninja claims of treachery, As well as other claims he made about being in studio.

-That Maximum Ovrlod and him like to tell all sorts of studio business.
-Like Shaggy had to walk Tre LB through his verses.
-That either Darren Vegas Music or 17th Street Recording have made stems for original recordings available to people who do not own them.
-That hes somehow "intertwined" in this.
-And how him being nosey and reading a track list in studio doesnt mean he knows shit.
-And why Shaggy 2 Dope doesnt need you to speak for him and you shouldnt be swinging HIS STEMS around for clout.
-Plus Why releasing anything you dont have the rights to on friday or throwing even more people under the bus is a baaaaaad move.
This is gonna be fun.
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And another.

So now @childsplayninja and @newmusictelevision WERE BOTH THERE.
And both know better than people whos names are on the project.
@shaggy.icp how many people were there lol

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One final one.

 

Did Bitch Titties Bob Roxxxroxxreally invoke #MeToo when saying Shaggy was an unwilling participant?
Did they buttfuck the verse outta him Booby Boy?
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September 13, 2019
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