CPN and Bobby Roxxx agree on the following:

1. CPN and Max were in the studio with Shaggy while Shaggy did his Maximum Overlod feature. That is also the same night Shaggy recorded the feature that was meant for Stir Crazy.

2. Bobby Roxxx was on the bus with Shaggy when he negotiated the sale of a feature to a rapper. It was Stir Crazy but Bobby did not mention him by name. Bobby claims part of this deal he negotiated with Shaggy to give a verse to a rapper was NOT to be for a cypher. An idea of a Shaggy verse on a cypher was floated but Bobby himself shut it down and Shaggy was apparently okay with that being shut down.

Chuck Reeves claims the following:

1. This airing of personal business has now put Shaggy in an uncomfortable situation. The story about Shaggy doing a verse for someone that puts together UGH cyphers was payment for saving his life from sharks in Hawaii, was a cover because Shaggy apparently knew where his verse was going but he also knew Violent J would be upset if Violent J found out that Shaggy knowingly sold a verse to a song where he knew Jamie's voice would be.

2. Ergo, Chuck claims Shaggy knew where his verse was going and that he had conversations and gave the okay for it LONG AFTER he was in the studio with CPN and LONG AFTER he was on the bus with Bobby Roxxx. So now we have to ask ourselves a couple questions if what Chuck says is completely correct:

a. Did Shaggy at the time of recording his verse for sale (same place and time he did the maximum overlod feature) ALREADY KNOW that his verse was going to be on a UGH cypher? That would mean he was playing dumb the whole time for even CPN and Bobby Roxxx.
Or
b. Did Shaggy LATER change his mind and get in touch with Stir Crazy and say he changed his mind, go ahead and put Jamie's voice on the outro and not his verse on with my verse so Violent J doesn't give me a fuckin headache for too long.

If EITHER one of these scenarios, a or b is true, then Chuck Reeves is correct that these two clowns really fucked up things for Shaggy's relationship with Violent J because we know Violent J will get angry if Shaggy agreed to let his verse be put on a track with Jamie's voice. This would mean of course that while CPN claims to not go public with shit people don't want him to, that he fucked up this time.

HOWEVER, CPN claims that in the facebook stream he did that Chuck first responded to, everything he said was given the "a-okay" from certain parties. CPN also claimed that in his response to Chuck's response to him, everything he said there was ALSO not out of line and had the support of certain parties. CPN took note of Chuck's call for Shaggy to respond and clear the air himself. CPN said that from what he understands, Shaggy and the rest don't want to touch it. CPN even makes a threat that maybe some day we'll hear a line in a song about people stealing verses and using them for something they weren't up front about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb1xxtUrsVc#t=112m20s

If that's true, then what this means is whoever made this move to steal Shaggy's verse did it for clout, or to give a middle finger to Violent J. And if THEY are the ones who did this in reality, then it would be THEY who have given Shaggy a headache, not CPN or Bobby Roxxx.

King Lucem Ferre said
So basically what you're saying is CPN and Chuck are exploiting a controversy for attention.

Yeah, we knew that'd happen.  

What no how 

Lmao

Is this what y’all do to figure this shit out?????

MASTERWEEDO said

  

I wouldn't call it "bad", just really unmemorable, which, I guess actually does mean bad. 

None of the verses made me think "man that was shit", I just, forget them the instant they were over.

Shaggy's verse was great. 

That bishop dude had one of the few verses that actually stuck out, but not because it was good, his voice is good, but it mostly stuck out because he literally just rhymed every line with nigga. I mean, that's so fucking lazy. 

Besides that, the best verses were from that Syx guy, I liked that shit, I tried to look up other music from him and I literally couldn't find anything; Intrinzik, even if the lyrics weren't great he just has a great sound; And Shaggy

But besides that, I literally can't comment on any of the verses because I don't remember anything about them.

I guess that Dienesty guy was decent as well, though I might just be saying that because his part of the music video was done really well.

Idk, I'm glad I heard it.

Edit: okay it looks like that Syx guy is still working on an album or an EP or whatever, he has a website under his name that just says "coming soon"

86 said
Who fucking cares?  

facts song sucks balls to begin with.

vinyllover said

86 said
Who fucking cares?  

Shaggy might. That's the whole thing. It's very important an artist knows where his/her verse is going and that it ends up where he/she wants it to. If you don't think an artist has the right to see that their music ends up the way they want it to, you need to check your head.  

No, I mean like, who cares? I don't wanna know what goes on behind the curtain anymore. Knowing has done enough damage. I'd rather be ignorant about the whole thing now. Beef this, beef that. Christ, it gets old. I just want everything to go back to the way it was, but that's a ridiculous thing to say because of course things aren't going to be what it once was. I just wish it would.