Lucem Ferre said
We need iLL here to say “equality”.

Though Slum is kinda right. She is tiny, she almost got gang bang raped.

Most women are physically weaker than men, but they have the potential to be just as strong.

If you are smaller and/or weaker then your opponent dont go punching them, regardless of sex.

and as i stated before, although what they did was way out of line, she did do the wrong thing by staring directly into an already wound up aggressors eyes.

Slumerican502 said
This is a really shitty analogy to use but the native americans were forbidden by their tribes to hunt turkeys, because they are slow, lame and easy creatures to hunt.

 

To hunt one would not only brand you lazy, but a coward. To pick on those who are weaker than you isn’t a good character trait to me.  

 

I do understand where you both are coming from, and I think lucem and I had this convo before.

 

Let me throw out there that im incredibly biased because the first ten years of my life were spent with an alcoholic drug addled abusive step dad

this would make sense if you went out looking for a fight with a woman, but the guy who does that deserves to have his nuts cut off. i was never a product of abuse or anything liek that, but i never had a father (s to speak, we havent spoken in over 15 years). it was my mum who instilled these ideals in me. she believes that if a women strikes a man she better expect to get hit back.

Other than the whole hitting thing I agree with yall though. If a woman wants to get respect she needs to respect herself first. You can’t claim to want equality when you really just want special treatment. idk if you fellas have ever heard of tucker max but I read a line in his book that has stuck with me:

Women and men are like locks and keys. If a key can fit into a bunch of locks then that is a master key. But if a bunch of keys can fit into one lock than that is a shitty lock.

Women have total control over whether or not they are looked at as sluts. A woman can walk into a party and fuck every man there but it doesn’t work the other way around. It’s in our nature to try to mate with as many women as possible and it’s up to the women to decide on the right “mate” or whatever you want to call it.

If a woman wants my respect she needs to earn it like any man does

Lucem Ferre said
What you are saying is that respect and praise those who can kick your ass, don’t even look at them wrong.

She, not even once, mentioned lettes actually provoking these fights. One lost ear rings and the other looked at the dude wrong. Not once did she even say women are better than men. All she basically said was that the weaker shouldn’t be abused, it’s unfair that only sluts get praise and that lettes deserve to have the same respect los have. You basically just told her that she had it coming, there is no fixing these problems and that she is an egotistical cunt.

You and BLT (sorry, can’t remember the name) both stereotyped her because she was pissed off at feeling helpless and boxed in.

no, im not saying respect and praise someone because they are bigger/stronger then you. im saying avoid getting into a fight with them, because you will most likely lose, thats just stating a fact.

I think you misunderstood me, the earring story was fucked, the dude should be fucking strung up. theres no call for that.

i was specifically pointing out that she made teh wrong move by ‘staring deeply into his eyes’. it was teh wrong thing to do, now im not going to say that she provoked the events that followed because that would again be wrong because as far as i could discern she did not know any better. but i can understand the mindset of a bouncer in his position. if someone looked at me directly in the eyes when im in a situation i deem to be dangerous i would most likely lash out aswell.

Dont think that im the kind of guy who tells a woman she ahs to earn respect and then blindly respects men. im not, i treat everyone equally in every way. and if people dont like it, fuck em because i dont want those people around me.

And finally as ive said before, i actually support this movement that lettes get more respect, but like everyone else it has to be earned and in my honest opinion it came across as a little soapboxy. and that usually elicits more trolls tehn concerned juggalos/juggalettes. you cant stand up adn say ‘im smaller then you so you hsould respect me’ because people wont listen, tehy will dismiss it, just as this thread proves, we have stayed somewhat on track, but it has gone in completely the wrong direction.

Okay, now you see why people hate juggalos when they have the same attitude towards “mainstream” and such except juggalos tend to take it to a next level.

You two just don’t really get it, what she is saying is that lettes are morethan just a bunch of punching bag cum dumpsters. Why she used that rhetoric. Many lettes actually think they need to fuck every juggalo just to be respected as a lette.

We all agree that lettes should earn their respect but she never said they shouldn’t, Novo. Yeah, I believe in hitting a girl back when she really deserves it but remember that girls are not physically equal to us. They really need to be asking for it just to get hit. She wasn’t.

I also think that more people need to get on a soap box more often, don’t know why you are so against it since you like doing it too.

I should probably also add that when i stand on my soapbox (let it never be said im a humble man) i try not to do it with serious matters that actually mean anything to me.

personally, as i have stated, i feel for wowachick and support her cause but the way she went about it just screams of a woman shaving her head and calling every guy she comes across a mysoginst pig. now im perhaps not a good person to give advice on this sorta stuff, but maybe instad of saying ‘fuck this shit ive ahd enough the glvoes are off’ pehaps make a call out to lettes sayingthey should be treating themselves more respectably.

and you also gotta remeber at the end of the day there will always be those women who will do ANYTHING to win. and i guess some guys like that a bit more.

I will say as far as the gathering pageants go, last year there was this super cute blonde canadian chick in the lingerie contest. She was the sole female that didn’t whip her titties or pussy out on stage, and in my eyes that chick won. I yelled my vote for her when it was time to vote. But, the dirtiest bitch on stage won it because thats what these contests are about.

I guess my point is not all of us are gonna pick the sluttiest girls out of the bunch, but most of us are and there isn’t anything us men as individuals can really do about that

Certainly that is more offensive than classics likes, redneck hoe, blacken your eyes, love song, and many more 

novocaine said

Lucem Ferre said
I expected some man hating feminist bullshit, but it honestly didn’t seem like that to me. She’s showed in the past a slight disgruntled taste with the mysoginy in the juggalo culture in the past, I know what shes talking about. Blaze dedicating hood rats to the juggalettes, I that is a bit offensive.
I didn’t put words in your mouth, just expained how I percieved your view.

 

fair enough dude, i just had to clarify :)

honestly i do see where she is coming from, but you have to be delicate (for lack of a better word) with this shit, there are ways to do it and way to get yourself laghed at. i think it comes down to how we each perceive differen things.

 

blaze probably isnt helping the situation with things like that, but alot of juggalettes do act that way, and the mentality is if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

im suprised more juggalettes havent weighed in on this, its a total sauage fest up in this bitch!

see bolded portion

ignoring your shameless plug, you can’t think that everyone thinks like you do. most people dont look deeper and thats the crowd you have to play too. if you get 1 supporter out of 100 your going to lose the election.

I seen tat movie, i was like awww then the kid got stabbed at the end and i was like. the fuck just happened?

unless im thinking about another movie? correct me if im wrong.