dood said
Red Fred is dope. ICP is finally giving me what I want. Red Rum and Seriously Hilarious are instant classics. And the artwork is sooper fresh. I take back what I said about them sucking. Strong 7/10

Except Flip. Pretty disappointed with how that turned out. Although Ouija (as whack as he is) killed his verse and it was good to hear Hoodoo. I don’t know…like 4 /10  

I like Flip personally…the vocals on the first 2 songs are a little too quiet and sort of took away from the listening experience (also wish Paul had a verse on that track rather than just shouting on the hook)…after that the album gets much better IMO…Friend Request is kinda just alright but isn’t the worst thing ever like someone earlier on here suggested and IMO the last 3-4 songs should have been on FFF instead of Nobody’s Fault and I Like It Rough (amusing songs but probably not ones I’ll go back and listen to as much as some of the others)…just my 2 cents though 

Makaveli said
That’s pretty fuckin lame that Shaggy’s had a ghost writer, never knew that…anyone know if J does too? wonder how often shaggy’s had one.  

you do realize Shaggy’s probably referring to J right?

from what I understand J writes the majority of Insane Clown Posse’s music…Joker Cards usually come from his visions or w/e and he’s never been shy about doing the heavy lifting when it comes to writing…furthermore even he and Shaggy are both on the same track, often times their verses are written very similar…take Fury! for example or something like Rambo off Killjoy Club…I do think Shaggy has done more of his own writing over the years but still doesn’t completely write everything himself…FTFO sounded like Shaggy might have done the majority of the work himself where FTFOMF sounded like J had a heavier hand in it (lines like “I’ll eat your whole buttcrack outta that tushy” or that Foggin Up The Window verse about jacking off just sound like something J would think up lol)…I’d go as far as to say J probably records the tracks initially all on his own and then Shaggy goes in and sort of raps over him and replaces those vocals with his own (wasn’t this somewhat confirmed with that Alakazam track from Hell’s Cellar where it sounds like J’s rapping a verse meant for Shaggy?)…Dr. Dre does this as well…there was a song he did a few years back with Eminem and 50 Cent…after it was released the demo version came out which had Eminem basically rapping what eventually became Dre’s verse (Em rapping from Dre’s perspective and everything lol it was weird)

when it comes to ICP Shaggy mainly handles the artwork, DJ scratching, and plays the sort of out of control sidekick role (I also 

Carnivalkilla44 said
Only spun through once. No real thoughts yet although Seriously Hilarious and Freedom are my two instant favorite tracks so far.

I’ll probably get some hate for this, but I had a pipe dream hope that there’d be a Ouija feature and an ABK feature… (The latter being highly unlikely, but it would have been a nice OG touch.)  

I wouldn’t have minded the Ouija cut from Flip being on FFF tbh…would have fit in with the sound of that album pretty well 

orzydorzy said

Bonesaw Wizardstick said
2. Who voices Willaby Rags? 

 

That has to be shaggy. I’d be very surprised to find out it wasnt him  

Willaby is Shaggy and J does that other character that’s on Fight Back and some other tracks (idk if they’ve given that one a name yet but they’ve used it a few times)

the chorus on Satellite reminds me of another song but I can’t put my finger on it lol something from the 90’s I wanna say 

SPANGE said
got my physical copy earlier, has that fresh new CD smell, I think the last CD I bought was “Lost” back when it came out, so it was fun to buy a new cd again, it’s been a fuckin minute haha

straight jacket, mike p. , seven, and kuma produce most songs. dr punch (aka J) has lots of engineering credits along with the others just mentioned… seems like they all worked on this album’s sound together… much appreciated, I wasn’t expecting to hear production from Mike P, but pleasantly surprised! still Loving this album after jamming to it since Wednesday afternoon!

dope ass pimp ass Wicked ICP album. Favorite song is still “I like it rough” haha then Night Of Red Rum, and Seriously Hilarious…. Freedom, Satellite, nobody’s fault… Straight JUGGALO Shit.. hell yeah!

MCL  

I feel you on that fresh CD smell haha been a minute for me too (think the last one I bought was FTFOMF)…didn’t know J was Dr. Punch so thanks for that bit of info…was dope to see Mike P did a few cuts on here…all the production was fire…Kuma bodied that Shimmer production

chops said
My psy merch preorder won’t arrive till Thursday. That’s lame shit. I’ve only listened to wtf and fury once each and haven’t heard any of the album or flip. The other lame thing is the day after release they have a combo option with FFF and flip for sale. Why would they screw over the people who preordered in advance? Seems dumb to make an indie edition to put in stores and sell the basic version directly only to sell the combo edition the day after release. Maybe I’ll take a look at some local stores this weekend. I don’t wanna wait 5 days for Fred then another 5 days for flip to arrive.  

completely agree with you about how they handled the Flip thing…I went to one of the cd release parties last night and the cover charge was 10 bucks but then you got the album with it…was kinda bummed to find out it was just FFF considering the record store downtown had em both so I might just go buy FFF and Flip rather than ordering off Psy Merch and paying for shipping and all that idk

Honestly they should have never announced the flip cd and just made getting the code in the booklet a surprise and the only way to get it. 

chops said
Honestly they should have never announced the flip cd and just made getting the code in the booklet a surprise and the only way to get it.   

Either that or have the combo only on their site, and have the option to order it from day 1, not AFTER the CD is released. Its very clear they still have no idea wtf theyre doing…

Chevy2Dope said

So wait, there were other producers than Str8Jacket on FFF or are you talking just Flip? I could have sworn they said Str8Jacket was the only producer on FFF. 

 

Also, anyone have a full Flip The Rat link they can send me? The one that floated around on Thursday is missing some tracks I haven’t found a full download except for streaming it all at once on Youtube.   

Str8jaket did not solely produce FFF…he might be the sole executive producer though I’m not sure…Kuma did 4-5 beats, Seven did a few, and so did Mike P…Devereux did Game Over (surprised he didn’t have the Devereux drop in there lol)