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An Open Letter To FLH Regarding The March
August 18, 2017
7:48 pm
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Good evening brothers and sisters.

 

I realize that this belongs in the other thread, maybe even in another section, but I feel the weight of what I have to say is beyond the shitstorm that either of those have become. Before I begin, I ask that you consider my words with an open mind and shelf your personal politics. Despite how this might sound, this letter is not about politics, it's about us.

 

For those of you attending the march, I'm sure your aware of the Trump ralley taking place the same day. The radical element within that group has caught wind what we have going on, as has the radical element that serves as their opposition. I realize that the reality is FAR more complex, but for the sake of using simple language I'm going to take a page from the media and lump them into two easily digestible factions: Left and Right. The strange thing, true to our Juggalo nature I guess, is that both sides seem sympathetic to us. Where this gets hairy is that, based on all that I've read, both sides mean to 'radicalize' us and coopt our cause for the sake of their own agenda.

 

I say fuck that. I'm not fighting a proxy war for ideological youngboi dickheads bickering over which master they would prefer to inevitably serve. You shouldn't either. No matter what you believe, no matter how righteous you think your cause is, if you have been goaded into believing the Juggalo March is where you ought to take that stand regardless of the potential for violent conflict, you are not there to help us. If you believe your shit that strongly, your time to make that stand will come with time, especially in this America. If anybody is telling you that you have to fight they are not your friend, they are your handler. The idea behind the march is one of dignity and peace. I love a good shot of healthy anarchy as much as the next self respecting Juggalo, but if you care- truly care- about this scene I must implore you: Not here. Not now. Set aside your differences and march alongside your Juggalo brothers in peace. Fusion makes life. Fission builds bombs. Keep it in your clique, fuck the outside.

 

The left like us because we're weird, working class, and buck the system.

The right like us becuse we're weird, working class, and "white".

Both sides love us because we're boots on the ground where they happen to need some. Neither spoke up when the gang designation was announced. They don't love us that much. I suspect that neither side knows which master they truly serve, but that is not a discussion to be had at this juncture.

 

This is my final plea to anybody attending the march, because I love you guys, and I love this world we share: Be smart. Be safe. Rise Above.

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August 18, 2017
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I like what you have to say. I think it would be special if  juggalos end up being the most peaceful of any group in dc that day.

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August 18, 2017
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Juggalos either side with antifa or get attacked and labeled nazis. There is no middle ground with antifa.

August 18, 2017
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This is absolutely guaranteed to get juggalos on national TV.  It's been a minute since that's happened.  For better or for worse, it is going to get ICP the recognition that they want.

August 18, 2017
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Sometimes I forget how stupid Ubi is, then he comes and reminds me. 

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August 18, 2017
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Ubi said
Juggalos either side with antifa or get attacked and labeled nazis. There is no middle ground with antifa.  

You're literally a white supremacist homophobe.

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 19, 2017
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Ubi is a retard, but sometimes what he says is.....well, less wrong than usual.

Look at places like Berkley, mother fuckers getting bashed in the skull with bike locks and labeled facists because they support donald trump. those are the "anti-fascists who just hate nazis" that ya'll are supporting.

 

Are they as bad as actual fucking nazis? No. But both sides can be cunts, and I will call both sides cunts when both sides are acting like cunts.

and before the usual people say it; No, I didn't vote for trump, I can't even stand trump, he's a worthless sack of shit who should've never been elected into office...But I hate Hilary too. She might be not as bad as trump, but I'm personally fuckin' sick of tired of this "lets whole heartedly support the person who'll rape me in the ass the gentleist" approach to politics.

You don't have to think both sides are equally repulsive to say they're both fucking repulsive.

 

and as far as I'm concerned? both sides are fucking repulsive.

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August 19, 2017
12:37 am
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Antifa use violence to disrupt larger scale violence. What happened in Berkeley is an example of how that works.

Believe it or not, it was part of an increased presence of white nationalists. It wasn't just "trump supporters" because trump supporters inherently includes white nationalists. 

UC Berkeley was a site of COUNTLESS peaceful protests against racist whites that went nowhere except getting peaceful protesters arrested, hurt, and assaulted by police.

A friend of mine who has since graduated was a student at uc Berkeley and would tell me how often people would assault her because she is latinx and lived in an off campus housing unit with Muslim immigrants. Constantly their windows were smashed or racist graffiti was sprayed on their walls. Every day there were threats against them and any number of other students.

And the campus republicans would bring in a Milo or some other trash and people would peacefully protest against it. 

Until eventually it got unpeaceful and ended.

BLM are not antifa. They are a peaceful protest movement. They do not use violence. They are there to talk about police brutality and nothing else. Any violence that's been attributed to them has been thoroughly debunked and condemned. They want to be like MLK (without the homophobia that krunk is suddenly worried about). 

Hillary is racist trash too, btw. She was the compromise candidate.

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 19, 2017
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whatever! ya-right

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August 19, 2017
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The only thing I'd like EVERYONE to be fully AWARE of, is that as we get closer to The March and more news agencies give ICP coverage...

 

WE WILL BE GETTING TROLLS. Possibly of the very real variety!

 

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE remember what being a Juggalo is about! PLEASE remember The Dark Carnival!

 

"Beware of strangers at the seaside and be on your guard when people talk of admiring the view"

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August 19, 2017
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"Your lack of online social presence makes it difficult for me to predict your needs..." - 2064: Read Only Memories

August 19, 2017
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"...because you'll NEVER "psychology" my shit, muthafucker!!! Never! Never! NEVER!"

 

 

Smile ninjas! :) :) :)

What you have to say may actually start to MEAN SOMETHING to somebody!

Whoop! Whoop!

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August 19, 2017
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Noah Fence said 
...Any violence that's been attributed to them has been thoroughly debunked and condemned. They want to be like MLK (without the homophobia that krunk is suddenly worried about). 
 

Not worried about anything. At all. Just mentioned it to highlight the likely death of the left in its misguided, infantile fury. Carry on.

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August 19, 2017
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The Dallas ambush suspect was just as connected to BLM as the Charlottesville suspect is to Vangaurd America. You can say BLM wasn't directly involved but do these organizations even have official rolls? They both seem like loose collectives. Where does the membership start or end? Arbitrary to a point. 

August 19, 2017
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umm cute how attacked i got for stating the truth...lol

 

sensitive ass snowflakes have fun playing war with antifa

August 19, 2017
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Noah Fence said

You're literally a white supremacist homophobe.  

Ok? so are you saying there is middle ground with Antifa?

August 19, 2017
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Its amazing none of you realize.....

 

THE RUSSIAN COLLUSION STORY HAS FELL APART. 

 

THE ONLY HOPE NOW IS TO PAINT TRUMP A RACIST AND INVENT A HUGE NAZI EPIDEMIC.

 

CHARLOTTESVILLE WAS A FALSE FLAG. ANY NAZI MAKE BELIEVE YOU WANT TO CONJURE UP IS FAKE NEWS.

 

PLAYING WAR IN OUR HOMELAND WHILE WE FIGHT REAL WARS OVERSEAS IS UNBELIEVABLE.

 

honestly thought some of you were smart enough to realize this.

August 19, 2017
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August 19, 2017
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Sure its just a coincidence...

 

WEVE ONLY BEEN HEARING ABOUT RUSSIA RELENTLESSLY FOR OVER 8 MONTHS.

 

POOF RUSSIA IS FORGOTTEN AND NOW ITS A NAZI EPIDEMIC.

 

right..

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