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11:45 pm
March 30, 2018
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all I want to say is Islam is bad for the west and there is a real valid reason to not wanting hundred of thousands of them migrating here all at once.
they do not like us they are brainwashed by a fucking book that has not been updated ever
at least the bible gets updated every few years to get with the modern times
am I an Islamophobe?? not yet but in 10 years when they have the majority I will fucking be because I do not want to be a minority in an Islamic ran state and Canada is looking like it will be one sooner than later
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11:51 pm
February 16, 2018
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the_great_white_smack said
all I want to say is Islam is bad for the west and there is a real valid reason to not wanting hundred of thousands of them migrating here all at once.
I only corrected you because if you spout misinformation you discredit yourself.
"they want to commit genocide" and "they want to take control" are very different statements, even if it doesn't change your end stance.
am I an Islamophobe?? not yet but in 10 years when they have the majority I will fucking be because I do not want to be a minority in an Islamic ran state and Canada is looking like it will be one sooner than later
Chrom's Balls that is a slippery slope.
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the_patriot_smackI see no difference between a corpse and a sex toy
12:02 am
April 25, 2017
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"The report also found that the rise in reported rapes between 2011 and 2017 was linked to incidents that did not involve the use of violence, committed by perpetrators known to the victim – which also make up the majority of sexual crimes. "
Apparently, reporting sexual touching as rape somehow proves that Muslims aren't doing actual raping disproportionate to their population? Sorry, non sequitor fallacy. Try again.
"While this reveals very little about the identity or ethnicity of the attackers,"
I ALREADY EXPLAINED WHY. THEY STOPPED TAKING THIS BIT OF DATA. BECAUSE IT WASN'T POLITICALLY CORRECT. DO I HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE IT YET AGAIN? IT SEEMS I HAVE TO. SO HERE IT IS:
Of course there’s no statistics to support this statement, when the government stopped carrying statistics in 2005. Probably because they didn’t like the results that were showing. The police even got a special code in 2015 to keep all crimes pertaining to migrants secret.
So that means we have to look to 2005 OR BEFORE in order to see the pattern of immigrants doing more rape per capita. AND LOW AND BEHOLD, WE HAVE SUCH A STUDY. I QUOTED IT ON PAGE ONE!
Just to piss off those who hate reality, let's shove some more quotes in their face that they don't want to acknowledge.
A long-held feminist myth is that the most dangerous place for a woman is her own home — that most rapes are committed by someone she knows. This claim was refuted by Brå’s report:
“In 58% of cases, the perpetrator was entirely unknown by the victim. In 29% of cases the perpetrator was an acquaintance, and in 13% of cases the perpetrator was a person close to the victim.”
Brå reports that there are no major differences between women of Swedish and foreign background when it comes to the risk of being raped. Significantly, the report does not touch on the background of the rapists.
Without parallelBack in 1975, the year when politicians decided that Sweden was to become multicultural, the Swedish population stood at 8,208,442. By 2014 it had grown to 9,743,087 — an increase of 18.7%. This growth is entirely due to immigration, as Swedish women on average give birth to 1.92 children compared to the 2.24 average of immigrant women. One should, however, keep in mind that in the statistics, second-generation immigrants are counted as Swedes.
Sweden’s recent population growth is without parallel. Never before in the country’s history has the number of inhabitants increased so fast. Sweden is now the fastest growing country in Europe.
Over the past 10-15 years, immigrants have mainly come from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Syria and Somalia. Might this mass influx explain Sweden’s rape explosion? It is difficult to give a precise answer, because Swedish law forbids registration based on people’s ancestry or religion. One possible explanation is that, on average, people from the Middle East have a vastly different view of women and sex than Scandinavians have. And despite the attempts by the Swedish establishment to convince the population that everyone setting foot on Swedish soil becomes exactly like those who have lived here for dozens of generations, facts point in an altogether different direction.
The latest statistical survey of immigrant criminality compared to that of Swedes was done in 2005. The results are practically never mentioned. Not only that; anyone who dares refer to them, for example on social media, is viciously attacked.
Denigration of ethnic groups
Michael Hess, a local politician from Sweden Democrat Party, encouraged Swedish journalists to get acquainted with Islam’s view of women, in connection with the many rapes that took place in Cairo’s Tahrir Square during the “Arab Spring”. Hess wrote, “When will you journalists realize that it is deeply rooted in Islam’s culture to rape and brutalize women who refuse to comply with Islamic teachings. There is a strong connection between rapes in Sweden and the number of immigrants from MENA-countries [Middle East and North Africa].”
This remark led to Michael Hess being charged with “denigration of ethnic groups” [hets mot folkgrupp], a crime in Sweden. In May last year, he was handed a suspended jail sentence and a fine — the suspension was due to the fact that he had no prior convictions. The verdict has been appealed to a higher court.
For many years, Michael Hess lived in Muslim countries, and he is well acquainted with Islam and its view of women. During his trial, he provided evidence of how sharia law deals with rape, and statistics to indicate that Muslims are vastly overrepresented among perpetrators of rape in Sweden. However, the court decided that facts were irrelevant:
“The Court [Tingsrätten] notes that the question of whether or not Michael Hess’s pronouncement is true, or appeared to be true to Michael Hess, has no bearing on the case. Michael Hess’s statement must be judged based on its timing and context. … At the time of the offense, Michael Hess referred neither to established research nor to Islamic sources. It was only in connection with his indictment that Michael Hess tried to find support in research and religious writings. The Court therefore notes that Michael Hess’s pronouncement was obviously not a part of any reasoned [saklig] or trustworthy [vederhäftig] discussion. Michael Hess’s pronouncement must therefore be viewed as an expression of disdain for immigrants with an Islamic faith.”
Statistical evidence
What may one conclude from the available statistics?
As part of the evidence Michael Hess presented in court, he made use of whatever statistics existed on immigrant criminality in Sweden before the statistical authorities stopped measuring. Michael Hess tried to find answers to two questions:
Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and the number of people with a foreign background in Sweden?
Is there a correspondence between the incidence of rape and some specific group of immigrants in Sweden?The answer to both questions was an unequivocal Yes. Twenty-one research reports from the 1960s until today are unanimous in their conclusions: Whether or not they measured by the number of convicted rapists or men suspected of rape, men of foreign extraction were represented far more than Swedes. And this greater representation of persons with a foreign background keeps increasing:
1960-1970s – 1.2 to 2.6 times as often as Swedes
1980s – 2.1 to 4.7 times as often as Swedes
1990s – 2.1 to 8.1 times as often as Swedes
2000s – 2.1 to 19.5 times as often as SwedesEven when adjusted for variables such as age, sex, class and place of residence, the huge discrepancy between immigrants and Swedes remains.
Glaring discrepancy
How is it, then, that in 2008, Sweden’s neighbor Denmark only had 7.3 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants compared to 53.2 in Sweden?
Danish legislation is not very different from Sweden’s, and there is no obvious reason why Danish women should be less inclined to report rape than their Swedish counterparts.
In 2011, 6,509 rapes were reported to the Swedish police — but only 392 in Denmark. The population of Denmark is about half the size of Sweden’s, so even adjusted for size, the discrepancy is significant.
In Sweden, the authorities do what they can to conceal the origin of the rapists. In Denmark, the state’s official statistical office, Statistics Denmark, revealed that in 2010 more than half of convicted rapists had an immigrant background.
Foreigners overrepresented
Since 2000, there has only been one research report on immigrant crime. It was done in 2006 by Ann-Christine Hjelm from Karlstads University.
It emerged that in 2002, 85% of those sentenced to at least two years in prison for rape in Svea Hovrätt, a court of appeals, were foreign born or second-generation immigrants.
A 1996 report by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention reached the conclusion that immigrants from North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia) were 23 times as likely to commit rape as Swedish men. The figures for men from Iraq, Bulgaria and Romania were, respectively, 20, 18 and 18. Men from the rest of Africa were 16 times more prone to commit rape; and men from Iran, Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, 10 times as prone as Swedish men.
Gang rapes
A new trend reached Sweden with full force over the past few decades: gang rape — virtually unknown before in Swedish criminal history. The number of gang rapes increased spectacularly between 1995 and 2006. Since then no studies of them have been undertaken.
One of the worst cases occurred in 2012, when a 30-year old woman was raped by eight men in a housing project for asylum seekers, in the small town of Mariannelund. The woman was an acquaintance of a man from Afghanistan who had lived in Sweden for a number of years. He invited her to go out with him. She obliged. The Afghan man took her to a refugee housing project and left her defenseless. During the night, she was raped repeatedly by the asylum seekers and when her “friend” returned, he raped her too. The following morning she managed to call the police. Sweden’s public prosecutor has called the incident “the worst crime of rape in Swedish criminal history.”
Seven of the men were sentenced to between 4.5 and 6.5 years in prison. Prison time is usually reduced by a third, so it won’t be long before the men will be ready for new assaults — presumably on infidel women.
In cases of gang rape, culprits and victims are most often young and in almost every case, the perpetrators are of immigrant background, mostly from Muslim countries. In an astounding number of cases, the Swedish courts have demonstrated sympathy for the rapists. Several times the courts have acquitted suspects who have claimed that the girl wanted sex with six, seven or eight men.
The second post I made showed that in Norway, migrants were CLEARLY the majority of rapists.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246148
I also showed how the European nations with the lowest immigrant rates WERE THE SAFEST PLACES FOR WOMEN. POLAND AND CZECH REPUBLIC.
But despite that, the majority of rapists in Poland were of immigrant background.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/#p246151
Let me guess, a coincidence, right? LOL. Here's another quote from another article I potsed on page 3.
"Last month, according to a report by the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, the overwhelming majority of individuals who are convicted for gang rapes in Sweden happen to come from migrant backgrounds."
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/muslim-immigrant-crime-stats-that-liberals-ignore-as-they-betray-females/page-3/#p246208
Over here, KFL ignored these stats:
THE RACE/RELIGION OF THE PERPETRATOR IS NO LONGER BEING RECORDED. IT USED TO BE. IT WAS STOPPED WHEN A PATTERN STARTED EMERGING THAT WAS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT.
“Rapes have skyrocketed in Sweden over recent years. Authorities have claimed that this is due to the definition of rape being changed, but the spike occurred long after the change was made. Sex crimes in the country have doubled since 2012. The most recently available statistics showed that immigrants were 5.5 times more likely to carry out sexual assaults.”
The fact that you have to explain to these people that rape is illegal is proving the point that immigration from THAT part of the world is A BAD IDEA.
Now what is the reason fake liberals have a knee jerk reaction to these facts? because they assume it's another case of racism and racism is bad and racism leads to slavery and holocaust and gas chambers. Apparently it never occurred to these dipshits that being against immigration and seeing statistical patterns doesn't make one a Nazi who hates Jews, or a kkk that wants to ship out or re-enslave American blacks. It's all in their head. In order to test someone as a liberal, it used to be where do you stand on:
1. Blacks in America.
2. Women's rights.
3. Homosexuals and trans.
4. Atheists and freethinkers.
If you ever said the following:
1. The CIA was wrong to plant drugs, the FBI was wrong for cointelpro and political murders and local authorities were wrong for filing false charges and claims and useless fines against black businesses to drive them out of business thus wrecking income for many well to do black families.
2. Women should have access to abortion, birth control, divorce, jobs, cars, their own money, dress who they want, screw who they want.
3. Gays and trans are not to be beaten up and harassed and gays should be allowed to get civil union married so they can bequeath things to their loving spouse in their will or be able to see them on their deathbed without the bigoted religious relatives preventing you from saying goodbye to your dying gay spouse in the hospital.
4. Maintaining the first amendment to protect atheists and freethinkers from jail, being fired, discriminated against, etc.
THESE MADE YOU A LIBERAL. Nowadays, the fake, moronic regressive liberals toss ALL THESE PERFECT LITMUS TESTS OUT THE WINDOW AND ONLY FOCUS ON IMMIGRATION. That's just asinine. In other words, they try to revoke someone's liberal card based on only one issue. This shows how mentally challenged they really are and how they lack common sense and basic logic. It shows why KLF is unable to prevent himself from making assumptions about me, his opponent. Observe this:
I’m willing to believe that crime has risen with immigration in Europe, yes. Because I’ve read that Europe has been having a problem with assimilating immigrants, more specifically Muslims, into their economy. From the fact that they don’t have enough low skill general labor jobs to provide to the fact that some people just refuse to hire Muslims. Poverty breeds crime. So it’s not exactly a problem with the Muslims being criminals and more so a problem with them being a huge economic blow. Going back to your original statement which is much more thoughtful and less fear mongering. The economic effects of accepting Muslim Refugees.
He fails to accept that HE'S MAKING THE ARGUMENT FOR ME THAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS A BAD IDEA WHEN THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN AND CONTRIBUTE TO. KLF and others want to blame me that these migrants just happen to come from the Muslim part of the world that disrespects women and gays. LOL.
Etc. How ever, here it’s far different. It’s not easy for Muslim terrorists to just enter the US. That’s why I don’t care about a statistic from 2012 or 2011 because that was prior to the refugee crisis.
The reason KLF doesn't acknowledge studies from before the migrant crisis, say 2005 studies is because THEY STILL SHOW THAT MUSLIMS COMMITTED MORE CRIME PER CAPITA. I already proved this, but he ignored it and wanted to talk about studies where THEY DIDN'T RECORD THE RACE/RELIGION OF THE PERPETRATOR. That's so funny that he thinks he can prove that Muslims are NOT raping more than they should be per capita, and then he wants to use studies that DON'T SHOW US WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE RAPING. He's literally a moron!
12:06 am
April 25, 2017
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Pigg said
All religions can be used to support violence except Jainism.
Where are the Christians and Jews in the west where:
1. The majority of them in the country/state in question think gays should be put in jail.
2. That it's okay to chop the clits of little girls
3. That it's okay to throw gays off roofs
4. That it's okay to execute atheists.
5. That a woman needs four male witnesses to prove rape in a court of law.
The fact that you keep putting modern Muslims on the same level of beliefs as modern Christians and Jews shows you aren't interested, or are incapable of dealing with reality.
12:18 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
The only think KLF is guilty of is projection. His sources are perfect and only everyone else's is wrong and "biased." "Biased" is a loaded term anyway that means nothing other than "wrong" or "incorrect" or "missing key data." This bit makes me laugh.
Except I actually explained why your shit is bullshit rather than just dismiss it. Huge difference, you might not understand it though.
"Shit talk Islam all you want. Islam is trash. The bible is trash. Christianity is trash. Judaism is trash. What’s happening in the middle east is trash. Just don’t be a bigot and pretend that this means everybody that believes in all of those trash religions are the same kind of trash is all I ask."
And here we go with the false equivalence.
Actually not really if you think about it.
KLF and any other regressive liberal that would welcome Islam into their country and Muslims as a majority and put trannyjuggalette in harms way, are a danger to the people they claim to protect.
I'm fairly liberal but I wouldn't identify that way, first of all. That's just the label you slap on me to poison the well. Because you're full of shit.
Second of all, transgender people are already in harms way. They've been facing violence. Just in general. Especially from evangelical Christians. The only reason why it's different here is because we're really secular for a Christian nation. So don't pretend like you actually give a fuck about the LGBTQ community if you aren't aware of the shit that they already face.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/27/us/toronto-trans-activist-killed-trnd/index.html
Their moral compass is no longer "does it protect women, gays, little girls," it's rather "does this piss off and concern a straight liberal white man?"
So I'm looking for ways to piss myself off?
The false equivalence is astounding.
You say that but can't prove it.
They claim all religions are the same and all those who practice Christianity, Judaism and Islam are the same, but yet they can't show where in Judeo-Christian liberal western countries that Jews and Christians are engaging in acid attacks,
When Iran was more progressive and secular that shit didn't happen. Then a fear mongering movement of conservative Islam took over then that shit started happening. Not much different from when we were a conservative Christian nation that'd set women on fire for being 'witches' and use the story of Kane and Able to justify the enslavement of African Americans and slaughter of Native Americans. Pick up a history book. We changed once we became more secular and progressive.
first cousin incest
I live in Utah, dude. With the Mormons.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-aug-15-mn-13289-story.html
Also, it's actually legal here in most states too... add that to the list of creepy things in my google history.
and chopping little girls' clits due to religion.
This also happens in conservative Christian communities as a cure for masturbation.
http://news.trust.org/item/201.....012-hf8eu/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/02/fgm-happened-to-me-in-white-midwest-america
It doesn't exist.
Oh, it actually does.
Muslims seem to be the only immigrants that do this shit.
Oh they aren't.
But fake liberals don't care.
I mean, sure. I thought you hated liberals or are you calling us fake liberals like we're not liberals or... are you saying liberals as a whole are fake? Man, you can't even keep your nonsensical narrative straight.
KLF is the type that would dox a closeted gay atheist Muslim and expose him to fellow Muslims who would kill him, just to satisfy his ego that he isn't racist.
LOL What? Oh, I bet you're too stupid to get HotSalamiBacon.
Why?
Oh please tell me why I'd do that thing I wouldn't ever do.
Because slavery and the holocaust and Nazis.
Oh my god. The genius of this man is astound... wait, this is just rageful blathering.
That's why.
You said nothing.
People like KLF are simpletons pretending to be smart.
Now who's projecting?
So this is your response? Mr. I'm so smart I can debate anybody avoids actually discussing any rebuttal I had to make up a bunch of shit about me based on generic buzzwords and stereotypes?
12:22 am
September 18, 2012
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Iris The Tranny juggalette said
King Lucem Ferre said
Shit talk Islam all you want. Islam is trash. The bible is trash. Christianity is trash. Judaism is trash. What’s happening in the middle east is trash. Just don’t be a bigot and pretend that this means everybody that believes in all of those trash religions are the same kind of trash is all I ask. Or fear mongering to keep people trying to escape the trash of Islam from doing so.
Of course I'd never act like every Muslim is the same.
I used an example just a bit ago with Christianity, the Church that hosts the LGBT youth club 10 minutes from me and the Westboro baptist church both claim they believe in the same book, they're both "Christians" but they have exactly zero views in common.
The progressive Muslims you see in Ted Talks and shit, they have NOTHING in common with the guys blowing themselves.
Just like my fucking dad has nothing in common with the KKK even though they are both technically protestants.
Now, I make fun of everyone involved but that's because I'm an asshole, I in no way think that people, even in the same damn sect, shit, even going to the same mosque or church, are the same kind of trash.
And now that you've got my brain going, here's a short explanation of Cherry Picking
Okay, Cherry Picking
Cherry Picking only begins after someone has actively accepted their chosen religion as the objective truth, and, more importantly, after they have accepted their religion as the objective source of Morality, because Cherry Picking that is non-moral based is pretty much completely unimportant.
So, what happens is that, they believe their religion is what is morally right, BUT, because of that, they will reject notions told to them about their religion that does not comply with that THEY view as right.
To word that better, lets say, by whatever external factors that resulted in it, whether your own empathy or how you were raised, you know that there's nothing wrong with being gay. But then, in church, someone tells you that it IS wrong to be gay.
One of two things will happen when someone is confronted with something that goes against what they naturally thought. So to continue with that example.
They will either reject the notion that it is sinful and believe that the teacher was incorrect, that it is okay to be gay but the pastor was wrong, or, they will compromise their beliefs and change depending on their teaching, saying it is wrong to be gay.
So, at the end of the day, because there are so many sects and teachings, your beliefs you end with will be a combination of what you would have believed regardless of your religion and what your religion actually teaches.
The percentage of what came from you and what came from the book will depend on who you are as a person.
When somebody "Turns" to a religion for guidance, what that is has a few ways of panning out depending on where it's coming from.
One common source is a feeling of moral emptiness, having your views on what is right and wrong, but not feeling any absolutes in it which, for some people drives them insane, so they'll look to a religion to validate those beliefs, but will most likely have some of their beliefs changed by the texts.
Another source is feeling completely morally lost, having no substantial idea of what you believe in, usually after something happened that changed your prospective, so you go to a religion to get NEW ideas, it'll still be influenced by who you are what you ultimately "find" but
I word this like it all makes sense to do, and well, it makes sense why people do it, but at the end of the day IT'S STILL FUCKING STUPID.
No matter what you are avoiding things that are written in the text you claim is objective fact.
And that DOESN'T even mean always just ignoring rules, people will make them up to and use loose vague comparisons to make them make sense.
People will write books upon books upon books of apologetics to explain away the stuff they don't want to belief and bolster the stuff they do want to believe, the mental gymnastics are downright funny at times.
Either that, or they will outright avoid ever mentally acknowledging the pages they want to avoid.
And EITHER ONE, no matter how you slice it is stupid.
And I did this shit too when I wasn't on anti-psychotics, but I did this on STEROIDS
I was a "Satanic Theorist", I believed that the bible was propaganda piece from god who was a corrupt tyrant, and so, I would find a way to make ALL of my beliefs with no exception everything the bible said that I believed was wrong "EVIL PROPAGANDA", everything that the bible said that I believed was right "Oh, he needs to maintain some order among his people".
But at the VERY LEAST I will always be able to say, I never pretended a page didn't exist.
And it's actually because I did that that I know so much about the bible now, I studied it more as a satanist than I did as a christian, because I was no longer afraid of what I'd see, I wanted to see all of it.
But because I did that so much, I also realize how laughable it is.
Cherry Picking speaks nothing to if you're a good person, how you act is the only definer of if you're a good person, Cherry Picking is why people who believe in a disgusting religion are even capable of being good people.
Brutally honest, I'm not going to read because we've already had this convo and I already know you're not a bigot and I already know you rightfully hate Islam. It's a trash religion. I'm not going to defend it. I'm going to defend the immigrants trying to flee it.
Whoop Whoop King Lucem Ferre :
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12:22 am
April 25, 2017
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KFL is free to point me towards any nation in the west which permits the execution of gays, trans, and atheists on the same level as Muslim countries. Otherwise his false equivalence remains a fallacy. Christian persecution always gets brought in when Muslims are being discussed as a red herring - OOPS another fallacy! He is free to test my liberal views and anti Christian views in a DIFFERENT TOPIC about Christians and rednecks harassing gays. Until then, I will ignore his diversions that basically amount to this:
Muslims are acting horribly and have a bad track record with women, gays and atheists.
Yeah, but muh Christians!
*eye rolling emoticon
I’m going to defend the immigrants trying to flee it.
Those immigrant rapists aren't real Muslims.
Classic no true Scotsman fallacy. I wish I could write shit this funny. Keep em coming KFL. You're a riot!
12:30 am
February 16, 2018
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King Lucem Ferre said
Brutally honest, I'm not going to read because we've already had this convo and I already know you're not a bigot and I already know you rightfully hate Islam. It's a trash religion. I'm not going to defend it. I'm going to defend the immigrants trying to flee it.
alllll good fam 👍
I see no difference between a corpse and a sex toy
12:31 am
April 25, 2017
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It doesn’t exist.
Oh, it actually does.
KFL is free to cite me any statistic showing that the per capita of Muslim clit chopping in the west is equal or less than Christian clit chopping in the west. Until then, his few and minor exceptions don't disprove the general rule. Numbers count. SIZE MATTERS! He also claims Muslims aren't known for carrying the virus of female circumcision. Let's just disprove that also. Clit chopping has risen BECAUSE the Muslims have increased in Sweden. YOU FIND MORE MUSLIMS PER CAPITA IN EUROPE DOING THIS THAN WHITES PER CAPITA. FACT!!!
And one more:
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The rigorous analyses of Dutch ethnographer G.A. Wilken (1847-1891), and Dutch historian B.J.O. Schrieke (writing in 1921/1922), concluded a century (or more) ago that female circumcision was introduced by Islam to the vast Indonesian archipelago, because the practice was present only in Islamized regions. They further noted female circumcision was absent in the regions not yet (i.e., as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries) penetrated by Islam or, at that time, only superficially Islamized.
Wilken’s article entitled : “De besnijdenis bij de volken van den Indischen Archipel,” (“Circumcision in the nations of the Indonesian Archipelago”) was first published in Bijdragen tot de Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde van Nederlandsch- Indie, (Contributions to Lingusitics, Lands, and Ethnology of the Dutch East Indies), 34 (1885), pp. 165-206. B. Schrieke, published a two-part essay on the subject, nearly four decades later, whose findings concurred: “Allerlei over de besnijdenis in den Indischen Archipel,” (“Miscellaneous circumcision in the Indonesian Archipelago,” in Tijdschrift voor Indische Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde, (Journal of East Indian Linguistics, Lands, and Ethnology), 60 (1921), 373-578 ; 61 (1922), 1-94.)
Schrieke (1921, pp. 549-551). reported that when queried about the meaning of this circumcision, the Indonesian Muslim parents replied that it’s purpose was for their daughters to become Muslims (eerst Mohammedanen worden).
Muslims are carriers of FGM. They do it more per capita than whites per capita wherever they go in the west.
Now what other lies does KFL want to peddle?
12:32 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
some blathering shit because he doesn't have the brain capacity to get the point and also conveniently ignored the proof.
If you're not going to actually read it, and exploit the times I agree with you to shout like a retarded Alex Jones on cocaine for some petty desperate bid to spread your hateful rhetoric and insult my intelligence then what exactly is the point of actually trying to converse with you?
Like, you wanted to have the convo, you ducked all the evidence contradicting your shit with full explanation on why your shit was bullshit just to be some pussy ass bitch and twist the narrative in a completely dishonest and disgusting way.
You're kind of a coward for that. Like, a desperate coward. Think about it. We had a common ground where we could actually discuss things in an honest and open way but you exploited it to get some vapid and hollow facade of a "LOL PWNED A LIBTARD".
Maybe you did that because you're the simpleton pretending to be smart?
12:39 am
April 25, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said
spread your hateful rhetoric
you ducked all the evidence contradicting your shit with full explanation on why your shit was bullshit just to be some pussy ass bitch and twist the narrative in a completely dishonest and disgusting way.
As already established just above here on page 6, that's YOU. Not me. Whatever, You're a stick in the mud and so am I. I'm comfortable letting the interested reader see who's really got a grasp on reality. I mean, you're such a coward you didn't even address the no go zones popping up all over Europe that are basically Muslim strongholds where they harass women, police, ambulance, etc. So far, nothing comparable about Christian or Jewish only no go zones in America or Canada for example. Or even in Sweden or Germany. You love your false equivalence fallacies.
12:40 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
It doesn’t exist.
Oh, it actually does.
KFL is free to cite me any statistic showing that the per capita of Muslim clit chopping in the west is equal or less than Christian clit chopping in the west. Until then, his few and minor exceptions don't disprove the general rule. Numbers count. SIZE MATTERS! He also claims Muslims aren't known for carrying the virus of female circumcision. Let's just disprove that also. Clit chopping has risen BECAUSE the Muslims have increased in Sweden. YOU FIND MORE MUSLIMS PER CAPITA IN EUROPE DOING THIS THAN WHITES PER CAPITA. FACT!!!
And one more:
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The rigorous analyses of Dutch ethnographer G.A. Wilken (1847-1891), and Dutch historian B.J.O. Schrieke (writing in 1921/1922), concluded a century (or more) ago that female circumcision was introduced by Islam to the vast Indonesian archipelago, because the practice was present only in Islamized regions. They further noted female circumcision was absent in the regions not yet (i.e., as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries) penetrated by Islam or, at that time, only superficially Islamized.
Wilken’s article entitled : “De besnijdenis bij de volken van den Indischen Archipel,” (“Circumcision in the nations of the Indonesian Archipelago”) was first published in Bijdragen tot de Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde van Nederlandsch- Indie, (Contributions to Lingusitics, Lands, and Ethnology of the Dutch East Indies), 34 (1885), pp. 165-206. B. Schrieke, published a two-part essay on the subject, nearly four decades later, whose findings concurred: “Allerlei over de besnijdenis in den Indischen Archipel,” (“Miscellaneous circumcision in the Indonesian Archipelago,” in Tijdschrift voor Indische Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde, (Journal of East Indian Linguistics, Lands, and Ethnology), 60 (1921), 373-578 ; 61 (1922), 1-94.)
Schrieke (1921, pp. 549-551). reported that when queried about the meaning of this circumcision, the Indonesian Muslim parents replied that it’s purpose was for their daughters to become Muslims (eerst Mohammedanen worden).Muslims are carriers of FGM. They do it more per capita than whites per capita wherever they go in the west.
Now what other lies does KFL want to peddle?
I'm not ignoring it. You said it doesn't happen with other religions and I proved it does. Now you moved the goal post because you're a coward.
Of course the middle east does it more. But I already addressed this, though you probably refused to read it. We are not a conservative Christian nation. We are secular. We used to do this shit. I don't think we have stats, but yes, it used to be legal to kill homosexuals in conservative Christian nations. That's where the term faggot comes from. It was the bundle of sticks they used to burn heretics because Christians used to set homosexuals on fire for being gay. Actually, it used to be legal to kill Mormons on sight in New York (I think it was there) until last year. So it's not the specific religion that's the problem, it's conservatism that is the problem. Iran used to look just like us before conservative Islam took over. You ever pay attention to conservatives in America? They DO call for the execution of gays.
But we don't do that anymore because we are not a conservative nation anymore. You get it or are you going to skip reading this part again to throw darts and draw circles around them?
12:42 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
King Lucem Ferre said
spread your hateful rhetoric
you ducked all the evidence contradicting your shit with full explanation on why your shit was bullshit just to be some pussy ass bitch and twist the narrative in a completely dishonest and disgusting way.
As already established just above here on page 6, that's YOU. Not me. Whatever, You're a stick in the mud and so am I. I'm comfortable letting the interested reader see who's really got a grasp on reality. I mean, you're such a coward you didn't even address the no go zones popping up all over Europe that are basically Muslim strongholds where they harass women, police, ambulance, etc. So far, nothing comparable about Christian or Jewish only no go zones in America or Canada for example. Or even in Sweden or Germany. You love your false equivalence fallacies.
I did actually address it. Not specifically but it was in those two paragraphs you responded to but didn't actually read. Or, at least you selected what you wanted from it to make an example or something dishonest.
12:44 am
September 18, 2012
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Man, this happens anytime I try to debate insecure people. It stops being a debate and turns into a monkey flinging shit and hoping some of it sticks.
12:49 am
April 25, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said
I did actually address it.
Link and/or quote about no go zones anytime, man. The only one stopping you, is you.
12:52 am
April 25, 2017
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King Lucem Ferre said
I'm not ignoring it. You said it doesn't happen with other religions and I proved it does.
At the same frequency? NO! So you're bringing up of how little Christians do it to how MUCH Muslims do it does NOTHING TO REFUTE HOW OFTEN MUSLIMS DO IT! Again, this is your false equivalence.
"They do it more per capita than whites per capita wherever they go in the west."
This is not me shifting any goal posts. This is me clarifying the issue because you're such a fool, that you don't care to look at the specific details about numbers, frequency and per capita comparison between two different groups. You can't for example just say "oh women rape too" in a conversation about male on female rape and think you're contributing anything. NUMBERS AND FREQUENCIES matter because DETAILS matter. Someone like you who is loathe to focus on detail tells me all I need to know about you.
I don’t think we have stats, but yes, it used to be legal to kill homosexuals in conservative Christian nations.
[...]
But we don’t do that anymore because we are not a conservative nation anymore.
Thanks for continuing to help prove my point that the west is more advanced than the east, and therefore we need to keep that shit to a minimum and make sure it never becomes a majority. Hoisted by your own petard.
12:57 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
King Lucem Ferre said
I did actually address it.
Link and/or quote about no go zones anytime, man. The only one stopping you, is you.
Remember when I said I didn't specifically address it but more or less addressed the notion with a paragraph you responded to?
I’m willing to believe that crime has risen with immigration in Europe, yes. Because I’ve read that Europe has been having a problem with assimilating immigrants, more specifically Muslims, into their economy. From the fact that they don’t have enough low skill general labor jobs to provide to the fact that some people just refuse to hire Muslims. Poverty breeds crime. So it’s not exactly a problem with the Muslims being criminals and more so a problem with them being a huge economic blow. Going back to your original statement which is much more thoughtful and less fear mongering. The economic effects of accepting Muslim Refugees.
I didn't read that link. I was willing to take your word for it. Maybe I should second guess it, though. Not tonight. Probably not for you since you're kind of a hyperbolic and dishonest shit flinger. And it'd probably be a waste of my time.
HotSalamiBacon.
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April 25, 2017
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And let me post my DIRECT RESPONSE to that paragraph that you are apparently pretending doesn't exist.
I’m willing to believe that crime has risen with immigration in Europe, yes. Because I’ve read that Europe has been having a problem with assimilating immigrants, more specifically Muslims, into their economy. From the fact that they don’t have enough low skill general labor jobs to provide to the fact that some people just refuse to hire Muslims. Poverty breeds crime. So it’s not exactly a problem with the Muslims being criminals and more so a problem with them being a huge economic blow. Going back to your original statement which is much more thoughtful and less fear mongering. The economic effects of accepting Muslim Refugees.
He fails to accept that HE’S MAKING THE ARGUMENT FOR ME THAT MASS IMMIGRATION IS A BAD IDEA WHEN THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN AND CONTRIBUTE TO. KLF and others want to blame me that these migrants just happen to come from the Muslim part of the world that disrespects women and gays. LOL.
I also fail to see what this has to do with the Muslims attacking police, ambulance and women. "Oh it's poverty. White impoverished people commit crimes too." Yeah I know the standard argument you're about to make. That doesn't disprove that Muslims are harassing women, police and ambulance AT HIGHER RATES than natural born white Europeans are. You either ignore my argument, or you end up making it for me that Muslims must never become a majority in Europe anywhere. Either way, you lose
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April 25, 2017
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vinyllover said
they can't show where in Judeo-Christian liberal western countries that Jews and Christians are engaging in acid attacks, first cousin incest and chopping little girls' clits due to religion. It doesn't exist. Muslims seem to be the only immigrants that do this shit.
Show me a quote from:
1. The Old Testament.
2. The New Testament.
3. The Jewish Babylonia Talmud.
4. The Tolduth Yeshu.
5. The Shulkan Aruch
which says Christians and/or Jews should chop little girls' clits.
1:04 am
September 18, 2012
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vinyllover said
King Lucem Ferre said
I'm not ignoring it. You said it doesn't happen with other religions and I proved it does.
At the same frequency? NO! So you're bringing up of how little Christians do it to how MUCH Muslims do it does NOTHING TO REFUTE HOW OFTEN MUSLIMS DO IT! Again, this is your false equivalence.
"They do it more per capita than whites per capita wherever they go in the west."
This is not me shifting any goal posts. This is me clarifying the issue because you're such a fool, that you don't care to look at the specific details about numbers, frequency and per capita comparison between two different groups. You can't for example just say "oh women rape too" in a conversation about male on female rape and think you're contributing anything. NUMBERS AND FREQUENCIES matter because DETAILS matter. Someone like you who is loathe to focus on detail tells me all I need to know about you.
Do you guys notice how he skipped over a very huge and important portion of what I said to only respond to something and frame it as if I said something I never said?
I don’t think we have stats, but yes, it used to be legal to kill homosexuals in conservative Christian nations.
[...]
But we don’t do that anymore because we are not a conservative nation anymore.
Thanks for continuing to help prove my point that the west is more advanced than the east, and therefore we need to keep that shit to a minimum and make sure it never becomes a majority. Hoisted by your own petard.
See how flawed this logic is? Culturally we are much more advanced right now, how ever I want all of you to remember that we have the same conservative movements here that lead to the Iranian revolution and the eventual downfall of a secular Iran. I don't want extreme conservatism here. I welcome people fleeing conservative extremist Islam for something less oppressive. I don't welcome conservative extremist anything.
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