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An honest and sincere question for Trump supporters or those who saw no difference between trump and hillary.
November 14, 2016
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Robert needs to admit he is wrong for once but he won't. He is like every other liberal they lack humility and have HUGE superiority complexes.  

Also I am so glad California and New York don't decide the fate of an entire country.

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Nyro said
Robert needs to admit he is wrong for once but he won't. He is like every other liberal they lack humility and have HUGE superiority complexes.  

Also I am so glad California and New York don't decide the fate of an entire country.  

I bet not all leftists insist on being perpetually right. Did u hear some Californians are trying to secede from the U.S.?

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

I'd say they're cuter than a sack full of puppies, but I hear puppies have been proven to have

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November 14, 2016
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I didn't know Carlin had episodes that you had to pay for. Which ones have you listened to yak? I finished Wrath of The Khans and the first part of Blueprint For Armegeddon.

For real, yall check out the Common Sense episode. It might not make you feel better but I guarantee a better understanding of what's going on and why Trunp was elected in the first place.

November 14, 2016
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Andrew Breitbart and his friend Larry Solov (a Jew who is now Breitbart CEO) conceived of the idea of founding Breitbart News Network, with “the aim of starting a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel.” In fact, it was under Bannon’s tutelage that Breitbart expanded into Jerusalem.

The anti-Semite statements come from his wife during a heated custody battle saying he did not want his children at Archer Academy because of the Jewish population there. He claimed he had no problem with it and that is why he enrolled them into the Archer Academy. Other claims she had were of domestic abuse yet the case never went to trial because she would not show up in court.

Under Brannon, he hired more Jewish workers than any other person at Breitbart.

Other claims of him being racist come from his take on identity politics, “diversity” and multiculturalism which is, as he claims, nothing more than the racist spawn of slavery and segregation. Anything that specifically forces you to divide a population based on race is racist whether it is called diversity or multiculturalism. This un-apologetic take on multiculturalism, of course, means he is racist since it is against one of the left's core ideas instead of anti-racist since he wants no division of the population by race... That's so racist :P

Now, everyone is free to believe the main stream media (that lied during the entire presidential campaign - proof is in the DNC and Podesta emails where they specifically paid the media to oversample polls and only post stories that showed Clinton winning). No wonder everyone on the left was surprised when Clinton lost since the media had been paid to lie in a failed attempt to suppress Trump support votes. These are clearly shown in multiple emails which the MSM was told specifically not to report or cover. This is not conspiracy, it is all out there and easy to find but not in the media that the receipts show (and have not been denounced by the Clinton campaign - since they can't... it is their bank ledgers) were paid to specifically not report. And the proof they were told is all out there too. (If anyone cares to see the emails, let me know, there are a lot)

I personally believe that to still believe the same media that was paid to lie throughout the campaigns and think they are telling you the truth about anything in the post-election period is silly.

And about reports of all the violence by Trump supporters?
https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/797817010298253312
https://twitter.com/JaredWyand/status/798246194745057280
If you believe the main stream media, there are countless reports of violence by Trump supporters but surprisingly when you contact law enforcement in those areas, you find that no one has reported anything. So far, many of the claims are coming back as being faked including the racist graffiti being shown on the news.

When you have people who work with the DNC saying on hidden camera that legal or ethical does not matter, they just have to fight against Trump at all costs, and again with emails (Yep those Russian ones that have been proven to be really from one of the DNC staffers and not from Russia) stating that they were going to create allegations of racism and sexual misconduct to discredit Trump and specifically writing the stories to be put into the Wall Street Journal and other media outlets, it makes me wonder how many other lies the Democrats and the Media have been making up. And the left takes it as gospel truth.

So to those who think the Podesta and DNC and Clinton emails are altered, I wrote about this before and was completely ignored:

Now while many think that the emails were the Russians, they were not. Even though the media would not cover it, the DNC "hack" was not so much of a hack as a whistle blower within her own party. The Podesta emails were the result of his own stupidity. His emails showed he fell for phishing scams on more than one occasion and his password was "p@ssw0rd" (which is listed in the top 25 most used and hacked passwords to use). He actually emailed himself his own password for some reason. And the claims that the emails had been altered have been completely debunked by the DKIM cryptographic signatures in the emails. Clinton's servers used this identification system as does Gmail and many other email servers. Yes there has been some people who made fake ones saying they were leaked but a quick search using the emailID and DKIM verification quickly shows the faked ones. And not one DKIM signed email has ever been denied by the Clinton campaign.

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And so I don't end up burying @slumerican502 's good post (Actually a few he wrote) ...

One of the reasons I woke up to what the fuck was going on in the media. They were trashing him at every turn and I bought it like you guys did. Until I looked into it more.

 

For real, yall check out the Common Sense episode. It might not make you feel better but I guarantee a better understanding of what's going on and why Trump was elected in the first place.

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November 14, 2016
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November 15, 2016
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Slumerican502 said
Reading through this again, Psyral did make a good point about needing a diverse cabinet.

That's the shit I've been saying since he was on the fuck anything Democrat because they are the establishment bandwagon.

 

And I don't think Hillary needed to pay anybody to slander Trump whether she really did or not. They already hated him. None of them are still as bad as Fox news, but shit.

The fucked up thing is, DESPITE the media's ultra bias, Trump still is a moderately bigoted moron. The man that tried to sue Bill Maher over a joke about his dad being an orange haired orangutan is president. The man that shaved Vince McMahon's head with a wrestling feud where Trump wanted to sue him for the line 'You're fired' is president. The man that tried to brag about the size of his dick during a presidential debate is president. The man that started that racist birther movement is president. These two shitty candidates relied on dividing us and tried to use that to their advantage. Hillary won the people over with corrupt bullshit and causing tension. Trump won the election despite the popular vote because the establishment that yall claimed to be against backed him.

 

What really disgusts me is that people celebrate like this is a victory. Like we showed the establishment, or we brought down the machine or that we stuck it to the man. No. No we didn't. We stuck another retard Republican puppet into office. We did what we do every 8 years and switched one bullshit machine for the other bullshit machine. Congrats it's 2004 again. Why couldn't it have been Romney instead?

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November 15, 2016
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they specifically paid the media to oversample polls   

In the other forum I frequent it's the annoying Hillary morons that I spar with and they kept bringing up the polls and shoving these polls down our throats. I kept telling him polls are never a reliable source. Bastard must be racking his brain for answers now. "But the polls said... how could this happen?"

I mean, I guess technically the polls weren't wrong since Hillary did get the popular vote, but still fuck his polls. If I can get a link to the emails that prove that I would like them to rub in his face.

November 15, 2016
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@lucem-ferre , I don't personally call them morons. They were lied to and the media would not report the truth. I am not sure it is their fault at all. They fell into a cleverly devised plan.

As for the emails, here are a few. I will have to search again for more since it's been a while since I was processing the email database. I will get more to you later.

Intentional Oversampling:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/26551#efmANvAPX
And the attachment to the above email:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/26551/7326

This one from Langer Research (Page 5 - Methodology: Read about partisan divisions)
http://www.langerresearch.com/.....ingNo1.pdf

Reuters IPSOS sampling and these are just 4 of them. Every single one oversamples Democrats and/or Women.
https://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7333
https://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7353
https://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7351
https://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7344

Some news articles about it (This is media so understand that media can be corrupt - read with discretion)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....icans.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....inton-lead
http://heatst.com/politics/pre.....y-clinton/

And about media collusion "off-the-record":
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12063#efmAk6AnI
And this one has links to many of the emails showing mainstream media is scripted and controlled by the Hillary campaign.
http://thefreethoughtproject.c.....ils-media/

It is no wonder the Democrats thought that Hillary was going to win when they were lied to by the Clinton campaign the entire cycle in an attempt to discourage Trump voter turnout. It backfired. Those on the left were completely shocked. Those on the right that have been following the "oversampling" and re-adjusting to correct the bias, were not shocked at all. The poll numbers from a month prior up to election day(corrected for bias) showed Trump was going to win. Not something the Clinton campaign would ever let the media publish. They had to make it known that she was going to win overwhelmingly to keep Trump voters at home.

Also if you want more stuff, you should check out some of the emails where they planned specifically to create stories of Trump sexual misdeeds to go along with the "grab her by the pussy" tape. Once that tape (which is real) was released, it would make the other stories sound more probable. As has been said, they had to do everything, no matter the "legal or ethics" behind it, to prevent Trump from winning. The ends would justify the means.

And about the people who tell you that she won the popular vote, she did. But the candidates agreed to an electoral race, not a popular race. If they had been running on popular vote, they would have campaigned completely differently. http://www.businessinsider.com.....ies-2013-9

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I am so glad they had the foresight to create the electoral college. Without it pretty much the winner of California gets the election. 

I see a lot of people want to be rid of it but the fact is doing so would make small states not matter and we would have a whole new civil war type uprising. 

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November 15, 2016
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If I remember correctly, there are some code words referring to pedophilia and child sex rings in some of the emails. Of course that's assuming people on 4chan actually know what they're talking about as far as "code words" are concerned.

November 15, 2016
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If I remember correctly, there are some code words referring to pedophilia and child sex rings in some of the emails. Of course that's assuming people on 4chan actually know what they're talking about as far as "code words" are concerned.  

 @piggofdoom , While I would have loved to jump onto the whole "pizzagate" bandwagon against Hillary, I could not do it in good conscience. I work with several hardcore foodies and they speak exactly the same way that Podesta does in his emails. Taking someone talking about food and replacing certain words about food with pedophilic terms will make anyone seem like a monster. While the allegations may be true, I just could not be a part of the efforts to disseminate that information due the nature of word substitution.

The same holds true for the #SpiritCooking thing. It would have been nice to find some association of the Clinton campaign with Satanism. I did not see that with the spirit cooking email. The artist involved regularly holds exhibits and dinners where the contrast of something palatable is brought together with something grotesque. The smear campaign against Hillary using the association with the artist Marina Abramovic was again something I could not get behind.

Yes, even on the right, there seems to be misinformation and the spreading of wild accusations.

What I did find horrifying, however, was the massive corruption that extended to many areas within the Clinton campaign and the Democratic party. With the rampant media collusion also shown in the emails, it is no wonder that the media refused to cover any of it. Now while the FBI has dropped the issues with her handling of emails on her private server, they still have multiple active investigations into corruption in her organization. Those will not be dropped, according to the FBI, and information has also been handed over to multiple state authorities so they can build RICO cases against her. The purpose of the RICO cases is that it resides outside of federal jurisdiction and even the president cannot pardon her for those.

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November 15, 2016
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Yall think if Bernie did get a fair chance and won the primary he would be president right now? I bet he would. I voted for that dude in the primary and I've been thinking about that a bunch.

That's what the party gets for tipping the scales in Clintons favor.

November 15, 2016
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Nyro said
I am so glad they had the foresight to create the electoral college. Without it pretty much the winner of California gets the election. 

I see a lot of people want to be rid of it but the fact is doing so would make small states not matter and we would have a whole new civil war type uprising.   

Wait, wouldn't it just be overall popular vote? Wouldn't that mean that no individual state matters at all? I'm asking, I have no idea.

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Slumerican502 said

Wait, wouldn't it just be overall popular vote? Wouldn't that mean that no individual state matters at all? I'm asking, I have no idea.  

I will spell it out.

California has nearly 25 million REGISTERED voters. The closest state to that is Texas at 15 million. The closest to that is New York at 14.5 million......see where I am going with this? Then Florida at 12 mill Pennsylvania at 10...starts shrinking incredibly after Illinois at 9 mil.

Population wise notoriously blue states would own an automatic 25-30% of popular votes by nearly default. Just these top ones here you can easily expect 59 mil to go democrat....that with small percentages of the other states would make for an easy popular vote every time. I would like to note the fact Trump got Pennsylvania was insane...Pennsylvania is a notoriously blue state and he barely got it by the way.

 

Anyways to spell it out with the exception of Texas a lot of the top populated states vote democrat in high percentages. Florida usually swings depending on who runs but is usually divided darn near 50/50.

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Makes sense. Gore did win popular vote when he ran too.

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Makes sense. Gore did win popular vote when he ran too.  

That's why the electoral college exists. Because states tend to lean one way or another so the Electoral college helps give every state a say instead of 5 states running the show.

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Electoral college always works in favor of Republicans.

 

Thought about stupid comments today that Republicans make comparing Democrats to the nazis  because of the socialist beliefs. Found it really funny that they think the Democrats are nazis because Hitler used socialism to save German from poverty while they support a party that celebrates altruism and nationalism, the two things Hitler used to create nazis.

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Electoral college always works in favor of Republicans.

 

Thought about stupid comments today that Republicans make comparing Democrats to the nazis  because of the socialist beliefs. Found it really funny that they think the Democrats are nazis because Hitler used socialism to save German from poverty while they support a party that celebrates altruism and nationalism, the two things Hitler used to create nazis.  

How so?  Out of the top five states with the most electoral votes 3 are democrat over 90% of the time, one is republican and one swings every other election. To lose the electoral vote is really bad for the democrats... To win the popular vote by only one million is even worse. 

This is by far the worst election the democrats have had since Kerry. 

The conservatives are shrinking and most conservative states are small.  Pretty soon both major parties will split anyways. 

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https://twitter.com/KevinRandall5/status/798596744342892544

While this is obviously inaccurate since it shows complete red in states won by Hillary, it does point out the problems. Her lead in popular vote comes from two states primarily. California and New York.

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