vinyllover said

Well given that I have the better arguments and evidence for my side of what the gang list was and meant, I would agree you should not have responded. LOL.  

I refuse to argue with someone so set in their ways that they wont listen to reason. Nor let something go for the sake of argument. There must be a point where you just give in and say its not worth fighting over cause there will never be a common ground. Youve come here and stated the same "facts" on multiple occasions and have gotten no closer to a solid solution. From anyone. What is your ideal outcome for this situation? 

More viewers? Not gonna happen...

We give up our juggalo cards? Again not gonna happen...

The clowns dissipate so therefore the juggalos dissipate? Sure as shit isnt gonna happen...

There are many more topics than ICP that goes on here. Were not just gonna hang it up and hand in the towel.

Either way my friend you lose. 

Well have other music, topics, while still discussing ICP, and still have family . While you stew in seclusion under Chuck Reeves desk and he yells at the neighbor kids to get off his lawn.

CPN MISREPRESENTING JUGGALOS TO PROVE FBI CASE

Drunkalo said

I refuse to argue with someone so set in their ways that they wont listen to reason.

Translated: I can't refute your claims that Twiztid and Chuck Reeves are right and I'm not going to try.

Remember this: As evidence came out about Will Sigler, I changed my mind from siding with Chuck Reeves to siding with CPN because CPN had the better arguments about what the truth really was. So since I have changed my mind MIDWAY in a topic, I am in fact open to changing my mind. You saying I'm not is just ignorant on your part.

Youve come here and stated the same “facts” on multiple occasions and have gotten no closer to a solid solution.

You're just not paying attention. Juggalos and the ACLU lawyers misunderstood the list and over-reacted because certain police over-reacted because THEY ALSO didn't understand that the 2011 list wasn't to green light harassing Jugglaos and infringing on their constitutional rights. The judge in the court audio provided by Chuck Reeves and Scottie D EVEN TOLD PEOPLE what they could do if cop were infringing on their rights. FILE A SECTION 1983 LAWSUIT. After all was said and done, my solution was to get Juggalos to READ ALL THE LEGAL AND COURT DOCUMENTS, see that Chuck Reeves and Twiztid was right. THAT WAS THE SOLUTION. The other solution was also to STOP BOYCOTTING TWIZTID SHOWS BECAUSE TWIZTID DIDN'T LIE ABOUT THE GANG LIST AND DIDN'T BETRAY JUGGALOS BY NOT GOING TO THE MARCH LIKE IDIOTS LIKE CPN AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA CLAIMED.

What is your ideal outcome for this situation?

More viewers? Not gonna happen…

We give up our juggalo cards? Again not gonna happen…

The clowns dissipate so therefore the juggalos dissipate? Sure as shit isnt gonna happen…

Why are you 17%ers always constructing these stupid conspiracy theories that we want you to stop supporting ICP and that we want ICP to lose their business and become poor, just because we point out that Twiztid and Chuck Reeves and myself are correct and that you need to stop boycotting Twiztid because CPN told you to and/or because you just believe what violent J and the media says and you don't do your own research and read the relevant legal and court documents yourselves? LOL.

Ok, now lets just say for the sake of argument that your right, now what?

We drop it and move on from last years high lights?

Yes we move on. But that's kind of hard when there are still Juggalos out there that are carrying on a Twiztid-MNE boycott and telling others to do the same. All because they think Twiztid turned their backs on Jugglaos by not marching. THAT'S NOT TRUE! The list wasn't what Juggalos, the ACLU lawyer and certain corrupt asshole cops thought or said it was. And the panel of judges explained this and proved it.

My problem is that people who are on an anti Twiztid-MNE crusade think they have all the facts; and they don't. And I'm here to give them the facts so hopefully the beef between Juggalos and Twizzler can be squashed and the beef that Juggalos have with Twiztid can be squashed. I'm not trying to stir the pot. I'm trying to take the spoon out of the hand of the stupid Juggalos (different from the smart ones) and throw it away!

SPOOKYtheFUNGI said

He says "evidence" more than that one faggot that "whoops" everything  

Fuck that guy! I speculate he does it to remember what hes read. Whooped it, musta read it. You know a "where to start" point for the next evening. Lol

Shit, the boss is here. Everyone look busy!

vinyllover said

Ok, now lets just say for the sake of argument that your right, now what?

We drop it and move on from last years high lights?

Yes we move on. But that's kind of hard when there are still Juggalos out there that are carrying on a Twiztid-MNE boycott and telling others to do the same. 

So that's a 'no' on moving on then. You don't say "Well I would love to but hapablapblap hearts and minds beyond my control still exist." You just do it. The words speak for themselves. Move. On.

My problem is that people who are on an anti Twiztid-MNE crusade think they have all the facts; and they don't. And I'm here to give them the facts so hopefully the beef between Juggalos and Twizzler can be squashed and the beef that Juggalos have with Twiztid can be squashed. I'm not trying to stir the pot. I'm trying to take the spoon out of the hand of the stupid Juggalos (different from the smart ones) and throw it away!  

See, now you're toeing the line on being a stupid Juggalo yourself. The irony being, of course, that you're not dumb. Stupid is going to be stupid no matter what. No amount of autistic screeching and citing the stenography from Juggacourt like its the goddamn Warren Report is going to change stupid. People have obviously recognized your efforts, so exhaustive have they been that they're now considered overbearing and have become a thing of ridicule. You want the spoon homie, congratulations, you got the spoon. It's your spoon. Now you're a guy with a spoon yelling a wall. Imagine what that looks like to the rest of us. Put the spoon down and move on.

I VOTE TO CLOSE THIS THREAD

ITS POINTLESS

Drunkalo said
Voting was yesterday, homie. Your late.   

VOTING IS AGAINST MY RELIGION

HOMIE!

Religious rejection of politics is a philosophy that can be found in several religions, such as Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism. Followers of this philosophy may withdraw from politics for several reasons, including the view that politics is artificial, divisionary, or corrupt.