See. My problem isn't that "there's no proof".

If some girl came on here and specifically said "monoxide child raped me. It happened at this place, around this time". I would probably believe her unless there was a specific reason to think she was lying.

But that's not what any of this is 

It's always someone uninvolved making the accusations. Sugar slam saying he rapes young girls. People saying "hey my homies sister is 15 and she fucked him". Shit like that.

That is what makes it hard to believe for me. If this is true, I really want the victims to start coming out and naming him. Especially because if this is a pattern of behavior, it's easier for other victims to come out and be heard once other people start telling their stories. It also let's the behavior be public and protects other women from being victimized in the future 

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened.

I'm saying, I'm not going to believe sugar slam when she says she heard from someone else...

I'm not going to believe some dude on youtube going "yeah man my homies girlfriends sisters best friend..."

Fuck the hearsay. Fuck this rumor mill bullshit.

Well, when I said "noone posted proof", I meant that it was all second and third hand. I dont think anyone said they were with him, usually it was their friend or one time, a dudes girlfriend.

Iris The Tranny juggalette said
Yeah, ima have to side with skepticism here.

 

In fact this is almost insultingly absurd in how indirect it is.

We are literally talking about non-screenshotted responses to a deleted (abliet screenshotted) tweet, alleging with no evidence that somebody that person has a known public beef with did something wrong.

These are LITERALLY 2nd hand accounts of a 2nd or potentially 3rd hand accounts from somebody with a known and obvious motive to defame Trump. All with no evidence.

And beyond the 2nd hand accounts of a 3rd hand account on a deleted twitter account, we have, per the admission of the youtubers this thread was started with, literally youtube comments being used as citations.

 

The grand entirety of anything resembling actual proof is "orange man bad".

Which isn't exactly scientific, and moreover could just as easily be used as a reason why he was the target of the defamation.

Like, if you're trying to ruin Trump's career, of course you're gonna single out the parts you don't like. 

And Nancy Pelosi's completely interdict "Accusation by implication" she played before deleting everything just screams "I want to defame someone but I don't want to get sued"

In fact her initial wording was SO non-specific that some thought she may have been talking about Adam Schiff. Which seems to not be the case now, but holy shit if that's not a giant red flag I don't know what is.  

These are the tactics of a high schooler trying to start rumors about a girl she doesn't like, not a whistleblower trying to make an unbelievably important accusation against a corrupt celebrity.

I still haven't even seen a screenshot or even quoting that showed her name off Trump specifically, no sane human being would handle it like this.

I'm not saying she didn't name off Trump, but if she did she deleted her account so soon after there's no way to interpret it other than "start the fire, run away before the lawsuit" 

 

And lastly there's the people other than Nancy Pelosi saying shit, all of whom appear to be anonymous nameless faces with nothing to lose.

I follow internet mystery stuff all the time, and I can tell you that "random fucker in the comment section" is the least credible source on the entire planet. 

The number of Democrat's who want Trump to DIE is uncountable. Half the fam I've known Irl were in that boat. 

You really think they wouldn't toss "yeah he fucked my sister" into a youtube comment section to try to get to them? Do you know how little effort that takes? 

I have a soul and a moral compass so I am incapable of doing so, but if I didn't have those things it would take exactly 20 seconds for me to type "oh yeah my homegirl from highschool fucked him when we were 15", that's all I would need to do and I'd have exactly as much credibility as every single one of these accusations.   

it's all the same 

just changed the names

Or...

TWIZTID could sample this song on a new single & call it Brass Ballz:

YouTube Video Bruce Springsteen - I'm On Fire (Official Video)

King Lucem Ferre said
I'm pretty sure Slam was talking about Dustin.

From how the Twitter rant played out.

I have no problem believing these artists, all of em, have fucked underaged girls do to a failure to ID them. Groupie culture can get pretty nasty. This shit happens all the time at parties.

Check them IDs, fellas.  

Oh yeah, I forgot about Dustin. That could be it. 

And yes, do check the IDs, I knew a 14 year old who could have passed for 20 and nobody would question it.

As for "all of em" having done it, yeah probably, except for maybe shaggy, but if it wasn't intentional, I can't bring myself to care. 

Still tho, check Ids. 

Innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.