the_patriot_smack said

he sure looks like a pedo  

swoop da snizz boss 665 said
Does any body know any thing about this ? Madness from bedlam has accused monoxide of this too

I made a topic about madness' accusation before, and I can't find it now. Still lookin...

jiggles the clown said
no proof, not even accusations from people claiming to be victims. I'd be more willing to believe it if there was any sort of evidence and not just accusations from people who have beef with him.  

right? Does anyone even have proof of Sugar Slam making these accusations in the first place?

So if a bunch of anonymous people on a message board post something then it must be true

Sugar slam raped me when i was 15

we all know that Monoxide really goes after the little boys he lures them inside his house with his Neca collection and a box of dunkaroos

MASTERWEEDO said
I remember the stories from like 20 years ago, back when Horrorcore.com was a thing. Noone ever posted proof.

I think there are these allegations against almost every artist.  

I'm just making a general comment here not necessarily related to Monoxide at all. I don't know the situation nor would I ever want to speculate on something so serious. 

But this thing about "proof" is a really tricky subject. People always want the "perfect" rape or sexual abuse with pictures, texts, video, etc. but that's often just not going to be the case. Yes, there absolutely are women that make false allegations to get something out of it, but I hate to see real allegations swept under the rug because there's no "proof" other than that woman's word. Like I said, it's tricky. But it's also the reason why there are so many rapes/abuse stories that go unreported because women don't feel as though they will be heard or believed which is pretty fucked up. 

BodeeBagz said
@Chevy2Dope

 

Yeah I see that and that is what makes it so tough :(

But I see it as more the law/courts/judicial systems fault for making this type of thing so hard more than people believing the alleged victim as the general rule for ALL crime and prosecution IS you need evidence which makes it tough. Suspects can pretty much admit to their crimes without confession and be like "What evidence you got? you eint got shit" and walk.

Sexual shit is probably the easiest crime to get away with because of that. I mean they can have a fucker in court and everyone knows they did the murder/robbery whatever and without proper evidence let them go even though they're a danger   

Well said. Yeah really I just wanted to take the chance to kind of point out the "she ain't got no proof!" sort of mentality can be dangerous and you hit it on the head about how the legal system makes it really hard too. 

jiggles the clown said
See. My problem isn't that "there's no proof".

 

If some girl came on here and specifically said "monoxide child raped me. It happened at this place, around this time". I would probably believe her unless there was a specific reason to think she was lying.

 

But that's not what any of this is 

 

It's always someone uninvolved making the accusations. Sugar slam saying he rapes young girls. People saying "hey my homies sister is 15 and she fucked him". Shit like that.

 

That is what makes it hard to believe for me. If this is true, I really want the victims to start coming out and naming him. Especially because if this is a pattern of behavior, it's easier for other victims to come out and be heard once other people start telling their stories. It also let's the behavior be public and protects other women from being victimized in the future 

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened.

I'm saying, I'm not going to believe sugar slam when she says she heard from someone else...

I'm not going to believe some dude on youtube going "yeah man my homies girlfriends sisters best friend..."

Fuck the hearsay. Fuck this rumor mill bullshit.  

Yeah man I agree with what you're saying for sure. That's why in my case I was making more of a general comment and said I would not speak to this specific Monoxide thing because I don't know the situation and so far it's exactly what you said, not really any first-hand accounts. But also like you said, IF it really is a thing, then hopefully these ladies can come forward and dude can pay the price.