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Novocaine, That Aussie Asshole said 
  i choose not to conform to political correctness starndards. 

So does Jerry Seinfeld; he avoids performing on college campuses because of their pc environment; "Seinfeld says teens and college-aged kids don’t understand what it means to throw around certain politically-correct terms. “They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice,’” he said. “They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.”"

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Novocaine, That Aussie Asshole said

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oh and @robtidwell - your offended because someone said tranny? Welcome to faygoluvers.

Sad to say, but about 90% of what gets said here is offensive. dont get hung up on it. Krunk isnt (As far as i know) any sort of bigot. She's one of the good ones.

I wouldn't say I'm "offended". 

I just don't think casual slur usage is cool or funny. It seems like the lot of you are offended that I would call someone a bigot, but you can't see why other people would be offended at a word that literally gets people killed? If I was a transwoman, I might have been offended but really I was just like "huh, never introduce her to my best friend. ok."

ermm what word gets people killed? now im confused.

As i said previously, if/when i meet someone from the LGBT community, im probably going to say something offensive/bigotry. But if you listened to all else i say, you would understand it is only said in ignorance. ignorance by choice, because i choose not to conform to political correctness starndards.

if you want my to accept you (not you personally, but people in general) you as you are, LGBT and all, then accept the fact i dont really care  if i say something that is considered offensive.

I don't agree about the whole transgender business, i wont lie about that. but if it doesnt affect me directly, i wont bring it up. I'm not going to call a member of the LGBT community a faggot, dike, tranny, transvestite to their face, not because i find them offensive or worried someone else will find tehm offensive, i wont use those terms because they are none of my concern. 

Your just as human as i am. regardless of sexual preference or gender preference. 

The t slur is used when trans women are murdered, it is part of a larger dialog among cis, hetero men that transwomen are trying to trick us and are inherently trying to question our sexuality (which is absurd).

 

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krunkazphuk said

Novocaine, That Aussie Asshole said 
  i choose not to conform to political correctness starndards. 

So does Jerry Seinfeld; he avoids performing on college campuses because of their pc environment; "Seinfeld says teens and college-aged kids don’t understand what it means to throw around certain politically-correct terms. “They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice,’” he said. “They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.”"

http://www.ew.com/article/2015.....e-campuses

Using a word and living a concept are vastly different things. Live long and prosper, bitches.

I had some guests at the dispensary, three young Caucasian males of course, call me racist because I offhandedly said a particular product was bad because it was black. Honestly I dont even remember what it was, but young whiteboys LOVE to try and seem "down with the brothas" whenever they get the chance. Then, a black dude walked in and they stopped the discussion.

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I had some guests at the dispensary, three young Caucasian males of course, call me racist because I offhandedly said a particular product was bad because it was black. Honestly I dont even remember what it was, but young whiteboys LOVE to try and seem "down with the brothas" whenever they get the chance. Then, a black dude walked in and they stopped the discussion.

I've worked in retail pharmacies which might be similar to dispensaries, and when customers (guests) would start problems we kept our eyes on the inventory and remained as placid as possible. Some thieves use the kind of scenario you described to try to roll you.

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June 10, 2015
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RobTidwell said

Novocaine, That Aussie Asshole said

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Novocaine, That Aussie Asshole said
oh and @robtidwell - your offended because someone said tranny? Welcome to faygoluvers.

Sad to say, but about 90% of what gets said here is offensive. dont get hung up on it. Krunk isnt (As far as i know) any sort of bigot. She's one of the good ones.

I wouldn't say I'm "offended". 

I just don't think casual slur usage is cool or funny. It seems like the lot of you are offended that I would call someone a bigot, but you can't see why other people would be offended at a word that literally gets people killed? If I was a transwoman, I might have been offended but really I was just like "huh, never introduce her to my best friend. ok."

ermm what word gets people killed? now im confused.

As i said previously, if/when i meet someone from the LGBT community, im probably going to say something offensive/bigotry. But if you listened to all else i say, you would understand it is only said in ignorance. ignorance by choice, because i choose not to conform to political correctness starndards.

if you want my to accept you (not you personally, but people in general) you as you are, LGBT and all, then accept the fact i dont really care  if i say something that is considered offensive.

I don't agree about the whole transgender business, i wont lie about that. but if it doesnt affect me directly, i wont bring it up. I'm not going to call a member of the LGBT community a faggot, dike, tranny, transvestite to their face, not because i find them offensive or worried someone else will find tehm offensive, i wont use those terms because they are none of my concern. 

Your just as human as i am. regardless of sexual preference or gender preference. 

The t slur is used when trans women are murdered, it is part of a larger dialog among cis, hetero men that transwomen are trying to trick us and are inherently trying to question our sexuality (which is absurd).

I can see how some people would be kinda pissed off in some circumstances. i mean you seen a chick at a bar (lets assume this chick is actually a transwoman, but you don't notice), you chat with her, buy her a few drinks and move back to your place. and when the panties come down your in for one hell of a surprise. i'd be pissed too.

i mean  i dont think id have a problem sleeping with a post op transwoman, but a pre op. sorry but thats just gay. no matter how you swing it. 

 

Also, why are straight people called cisgender? personally it irratates me that the LGBT community are trying to drag me into this political correctness shitstorm. i dont need a label because you think straight is offensive.

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Cis doesn't mean straight. It has nothing to do with being straight. Heterosexual means straight and cishet is an online short cut for cisgender and heterosexual. 

Cisgender means "identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth." It's a label used to describe people who, when born, were labeled either a boy or a girl based on the appearance of their genitals.

Transgender means "identifies as a gender other than what they were assigned at birth." This is a label for people who were assigned a gender (either male or female) at birth, but who identify as something else. This includes people whose genitals were indistinguishable at birth (or who had a penis and a vagina, or some other combination) which is also called intersex (it used to be called hermaphrodite but that's an outdated term), but also people who have identify as male or female but were assigned the other gender at birth, or who are agender or bigender or any other gender not recognized in the western gender binary (aka non binary).

It's not even about "politically correct" it's just a way of identifying who you're talking about.

As far as your other point: If you're at a bar and you're talking to someone and you want to take her home and she's down to go home with you and if she has a penis, she's probably more afraid of surprising you than you are of being surprised. It can be scary being trans and informing people who are interested in you sexually because of this idea that you said, "it's just gay". It isn't an attack on your heterosexuality. She's a girl in the bar. If she tells you that she has a penis, there is a chance that you'll attack her. Not you, but a nameless cishet man in a bar might take the fact that she has a penis as an attack on his heterosexuality because these kinds of men tend to only see women as vaginas.

Rest assured though, most transwomen are actually not interested in tricking you into taking them home only to say I got a penis hahahaha. Most transwomen are lesbians. The ones who aren't, are usually really careful about who they meet and how they expose themselves because so many transwomen are raped and assaulted. 

And even if a woman does go to a mans place and is like oh btw i got a cock and it's bigger than yours, that doesn't give the man the right to assault her. 

 

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Who decided that some of these terms were outdated? Like said before, people I know label themselves as "tranny". Not my label, that's what they call themselves. Should I inform them that I am not going to call them by what they want to be called because they are wrong for associating themselves with such a term?

RuPaul on People Who Complain About the Word "Tranny": "Bitch, You Need To Get Stronger"

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its simple. if your scared of 'exposing' yourself, then just say no thankyou, the drink was nice but im not interested.

and if a transwoman does 'trick' a guy into the whole penis thing. well im a believer in equal rights, don't be surprised if you get knocked out. a drunk man is not going to be very rational, and i think anyone should be smart enough to know that.

but your right, it does NOT give the man the right to assault her. but if everything in this world was right, a transwoman/man wouldnt ahve to be fearful about exposing themselves. and i would have a bacon sandwich. but some things just arent going to happen.

I do my part by treating everyone equally. i just wont follow all this trans/cis business, because its most likely to be outdated in 6 months. that and when it comes to gender, its none of my concern. unless i wanna stick my peepee in someones holes gender is of no concern to me.

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Tranny is hate speech word now? Jesus. I mean, maybe if said in the proper tone I could see it. Like if said in disgust or disdain but to offhandedly use it in casual concersation to describe a transexual person I don't see why it'd be offensive. On a related note I have been catching a lot of flak lately for the amount I use the word gay and faggot to describe things that. Like if some guy is being a tool or an asshole I'll call him a faggot or if something is inconvenient or unfortunate I'll say man that's fucking gay. And people get so butt hurt over it. It's not like I'm using those words hatefully toward homosexuals, it's just something I say amongst my other vast vocabulary of obscenities. I have plenty of gay acquaintances, there's a lot more 'LGBT' people in the military than I thought there'd be and so far only one has been offended at my use of the word faggot. But that guy is a total fag anyways, not because he's gay, but because he's a total faggot.

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I'm not trying to derail this thread back to it's original reason or anything but I just found out about this book recently and it inspired me to knock the metaphorical cobwebs off of a story I had been writing. I slacked on it for months but knowing that this fucking thing is a real, goddamned book that someone spent seven years writing is incredibly inspirational. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.....oia_(book)

If you don't want to click the link, each chapter (A, E, I, O, & U) only uses the vowel it's associated with. So in chapter E, there isn't a single vowel other than E. Not impressed yet? There's fucking more. Each chapter must be about writing. Each chapter must also "describe a culinary banquet (food and shit), a prurient debauch (sex stuff), a pastoral tableau (writing that describes country livin in a positive light) and a nautical voyage (wacky adventures on a boat). Each full sentence has to have an internal rhyme. Each chapter has to be long as possible. Has to keep the repeats to a bare minimum. And, he couldn't use the letter "Y" throughout the whole book. 

All of those stipulations he chose to do. Just decided that he was going to do it, and did it. Bitch of it is, even with the crazy rules he set for himself, the excerpts that I've found are incredible reads.  

Writing is inhibiting. Sighing, I sit, scribbling in ink this pidgin script. I sing with nihilistic witticism, disciplining signs with trifling gimmicks- impish hi-jinks which highlight stick sigils. Isn't it glib? Isn't is chic? I fit childish insights within rigid limits, writing shtick which might instill priggish misgivings in critics blind with hindsight. I dismiss nitpicking criticism which flirts with philistinism. I bitch; I kibitz-griping whilst criticizing dimwits, sniping whilst indicting nitwits, dismissing simplistic thinking, in which philippic wit is still illicit.    

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Psyral Infection said
Who decided that some of these terms were outdated? Like said before, people I know label themselves as "tranny". Not my label, that's what they call themselves. Should I inform them that I am not going to call them by what they want to be called because they are wrong for associating themselves with such a term?

RuPaul on People Who Complain About the Word "Tranny": "Bitch, You Need To Get Stronger"

It wasn't really a singular who, it's just the way language develops. A lot of black people call themselves and each other the n slur, but that doesn't mean it's OK for everybody to use it. 

You should refer to people how ever they ask to be referred to as.

RuPaul isn't transgender. He is a gay cisman who performs in drag. Sometimes Drag Queens get called certain slurs because they are mistaken for being transwomen. I'm heavily involved in the LGBT community and have been repeatedly called all sorts of homophobic slurs because people might assume I'm gay for wearing a rainbow. That doesn't mean I get to go around and try and 'reclaim' the word the same way a gay man might.

http://transgriot.blogspot.com.....upaul.html

http://pamshouseblend.firedogl.....led-tries/

And  think what most people miss is that "political correctness" is just "be considerate of other people". If you want to hurt peoples feelings and be rude and aid in their oppression, use whatever words you want. It helps us know who to avoid. If you actually care about other people, if you actually think people have a right to just be themselves and be treated no different than anybody else, then call them what they want to be called. We don't go around saying "well, I don't like being politically correct so I refuse to call them 'British'. They're not 'British' they're Red Coats!" That was a really weak example but you get my point. We have no social or political conflict with Great Britain so we call them what they want to be called. The LGBT community, People of Color, women, the poor, and the disabled all get names they don't like applied to them in the name of "well I ain't politically correct". 

You don't get an award, at least from me, for being willfully and belligerently disrespectful to people who are different from you. It's gross. 

 

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Tranny is hate speech word now? Jesus. I mean, maybe if said in the proper tone I could see it. Like if said in disgust or disdain but to offhandedly use it in casual concersation to describe a transexual person I don't see why it'd be offensive. On a related note I have been catching a lot of flak lately for the amount I use the word gay and faggot to describe things that. Like if some guy is being a tool or an asshole I'll call him a faggot or if something is inconvenient or unfortunate I'll say man that's fucking gay. And people get so butt hurt over it. It's not like I'm using those words hatefully toward homosexuals, it's just something I say amongst my other vast vocabulary of obscenities. I have plenty of gay acquaintances, there's a lot more 'LGBT' people in the military than I thought there'd be and so far only one has been offended at my use of the word faggot. But that guy is a total fag anyways, not because he's gay, but because he's a total faggot.

hmmmm why would gay people have a problem with you associating everything you don't like with them...

 

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CellE2057 said
I'm not trying to derail this thread back to it's original reason or anything but I just found out about this book recently and it inspired me to knock the metaphorical cobwebs off of a story I had been writing. I slacked on it for months but knowing that this fucking thing is a real, goddamned book that someone spent seven years writing is incredibly inspirational. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.....oia_(book)

If you don't want to click the link, each chapter (A, E, I, O, & U) only uses the vowel it's associated with. So in chapter E, there isn't a single vowel other than E. Not impressed yet? There's fucking more. Each chapter must be about writing. Each chapter must also "describe a culinary banquet (food and shit), a prurient debauch (sex stuff), a pastoral tableau (writing that describes country livin in a positive light) and a nautical voyage (wacky adventures on a boat). Each full sentence has to have an internal rhyme. Each chapter has to be long as possible. Has to keep the repeats to a bare minimum. And, he couldn't use the letter "Y" throughout the whole book. 

All of those stipulations he chose to do. Just decided that he was going to do it, and did it. Bitch of it is, even with the crazy rules he set for himself, the excerpts that I've found are incredible reads.  

Writing is inhibiting. Sighing, I sit, scribbling in ink this pidgin script. I sing with nihilistic witticism, disciplining signs with trifling gimmicks- impish hi-jinks which highlight stick sigils. Isn't it glib? Isn't is chic? I fit childish insights within rigid limits, writing shtick which might instill priggish misgivings in critics blind with hindsight. I dismiss nitpicking criticism which flirts with philistinism. I bitch; I kibitz-griping whilst criticizing dimwits, sniping whilst indicting nitwits, dismissing simplistic thinking, in which philippic wit is still illicit.    

That sounds so laborious lol. A girl I dated used to love this book called the Inquisitive Mood that was written entirely in questions. I didn't care for it but I do love experimental writing. I think it's so fascinating what things we can do with writing when we put weird parameters on it.

Our brains are kind of impressive when it comes to language.

 

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i cannot be friends with sensitive people. bottom line. you should hear the shit i say to my best friends... it's usually something like, "hey bobby you fat fuck get over here!" now, understandably, the man is over weight, very over weight, but he knows i'm just doin' me, so he he retorts with something equally offensive. 

i just know if i had a gay/trans/WHATEVER friend i would end up saying something very "offensive" to them. not because i hate them or think there wrong or what have you. it's just how i do...

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I think there's generally a bit of give and take when you're friends. If you called me a fat fuck, I might want to throw down. If my friend calls me one, I might not even notice.

The thing is, you probably DO have LGBT friends and don't know it. Something like 1 in 5 people are LGBT. 1 in 10, roughly, are gay. LGBT people are everywhere and sometimes the shit we say without thinking about it tells them something we might not want to tell them. LGBT people face ridiculous amounts of oppression, things we might not even see as straight people. I, for one, want to let them know that they are valuable people in my life.

I teach a sex ed class and one time a fourth grade kid kept asking questions about being gay and homophobia etc. Towards the end of the class (it ran every two weeks for like six months) she came up to me and hugged me with tears in her eyes and I asked her what was going on and she said she used to be afraid that she was gay, but she wasn't afraid anymore because I helped her see that it was OK to be gay. She said she told her mom the night before that she thinks she might be gay and her mom received the information well. She was so excited when I answered her last question about homophobia with "you're here because your family loves you and wants whats best for you. They might have some homophobic tendencies but they chose this class because they knew it was LGBT inclusive and wanted you to have access to more information than what you get at school." She said that was what made her want to talk to her mom.

Her whole personality changed. Prior to that, she would sit alone at the play ground and read. She always had her arms crossed. She wouldn't speak in class except very quietly. After that, she was an absolutely different kid. Bright, funny, inquisitive. 

My goal is to make the whole world as inclusive and open as that classroom so that all LGBT kids and adults can feel safe enough to accept who they are and stop fighting themselves. That only happens when we consider our words more carefully and think about the ways in which we support the oppression of others.

 

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RobTidwell said 
 ...  You don't get an award, at least from me, for being willfully and belligerently disrespectful to people who are different from you. It's gross. 

I am not being "willfully and belligerently disrespectful". I truly don't see a difference in anyone. I must have a mental block in understanding why people have a problem with certain words. They are just words and it makes a person seem weak if they have an issue with words. Connotation and intent may matter, not the actual words. A word only has power to the extent that the receiver gives it power. I have been called all kind of things. Even "gay" and "faggot" (I was a cheerleader in highschool so it came with the territory). It did not bother me one bit even though I knew the intent was to put me down. It did not put me down since the words themselves mean nothing to me. If the people decided to resort to violence then it would be a physical thing and that is different. I can handle any words thrown at me cause they are just words. People who use words to try to hurt people are just as weak as those who are hurt by mere words.

If people (who I consider all equal) consider themselves different and want to be treated differently with kid gloves, I will not do it. That would make me look at them as different and not equal. I just can't do it. It seems very wrong to me. If equality is wanted, then be equal, not different. Don't look at others or self as different. If a word is ok for some, then it is ok for all. I will not segregate certain words for certain people. That is totally against equality.

So instead of being willfully disrespectful, I am willfully being respectful of their equality. I refuse to see anyone as different.

... except for the Dutch! (There's my glib, stale joke for those that dislike that kind of stuff :P )

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... My goal is to make the whole world as inclusive and open as that classroom so that all LGBT kids and adults can feel safe enough to accept who they are and stop fighting themselves. That only happens when we consider our words more carefully and think about the ways in which we support the oppression of others.

That's a great goal in my eyes, but I disagree with the words thing (as you probably already know). I think the better solution is to teach people to not take offense to words. If that is accomplished, then the "word power" of these oppressive people is taken away from them.

I really don't have any disrespect for anyone. I think everyone should be exactly who they want to be. Just as no one but my wife is affected by my gender and/or biology, I am totally unaffected by everyone else's. I have friends. They are not gay, straight, black, white, trans-anything, or cis-anything. They are just friends.

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  If you actually care about other people, if you actually think people have a right to just be themselves and be treated no different than anybody else, then call them what they want to be called.

If you care about other people, encourage them to be themselves, etc.,  maybe quit dictating the language of others like Oprah rewrote Mark Twain. Or you could go balls out and use your artistic talent to paint clothes on some naked masterpieces. Do unto others. Or not.

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RobTidwell said 
 ...  You don't get an award, at least from me, for being willfully and belligerently disrespectful to people who are different from you. It's gross. 

I am not being "willfully and belligerently disrespectful". I truly don't see a difference in anyone. I must have a mental block in understanding why people have a problem with certain words. They are just words and it makes a person seem weak if they have an issue with words. Connotation and intent may matter, not the actual words. A word only has power to the extent that the receiver gives it power. I have been called all kind of things. Even "gay" and "faggot" (I was a cheerleader in highschool so it came with the territory). It did not bother me one bit even though I knew the intent was to put me down. It did not put me down since the words themselves mean nothing to me. If the people decided to resort to violence then it would be a physical thing and that is different. I can handle any words thrown at me cause they are just words. People who use words to try to hurt people are just as weak as those who are hurt by mere words.

If people (who I consider all equal) consider themselves different and want to be treated differently with kid gloves, I will not do it. That would make me look at them as different and not equal. I just can't do it. It seems very wrong to me. If equality is wanted, then be equal, not different. Don't look at others or self as different. If a word is ok for some, then it is ok for all. I will not segregate certain words for certain people. That is totally against equality.

So instead of being willfully disrespectful, I am willfully being respectful of their equality. I refuse to see anyone as different.

... except for the Dutch! (There's my glib, stale joke for those that dislike that kind of stuff :P )

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... My goal is to make the whole world as inclusive and open as that classroom so that all LGBT kids and adults can feel safe enough to accept who they are and stop fighting themselves. That only happens when we consider our words more carefully and think about the ways in which we support the oppression of others.

That's a great goal in my eyes, but I disagree with the words thing (as you probably already know). I think the better solution is to teach people to not take offense to words. If that is accomplished, then the "word power" of these oppressive people is taken away from them.

I really don't have any disrespect for anyone. I think everyone should be exactly who they want to be. Just as no one but my wife is affected by my gender and/or biology, I am totally unaffected by everyone else's. I have friends. They are not gay, straight, black, white, trans-anything, or cis-anything. They are just friends.

i feel like you summed up my feelings perfectly.

IF people LGBT around me (and have fairly regular encounters with me) see me saying things that are offensive to the LGBT community, they will note me saying other incredibly offensive things to more or less everyone and know that it is just me. everyone i know, knows to take most of what i say with a pinch of salt. i imagine there are alot of LGBT people who dont 'expose' themselves to me. if they havent figured me out by now. well theres no helping them.

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I had some guests at the dispensary, three young Caucasian males of course, call me racist because I offhandedly said a particular product was bad because it was black. Honestly I dont even remember what it was, but young whiteboys LOVE to try and seem "down with the brothas" whenever they get the chance. Then, a black dude walked in and they stopped the discussion.

I've worked in retail pharmacies which might be similar to dispensaries, and when customers (guests) would start problems we kept our eyes on the inventory and remained as placid as possible. Some thieves use the kind of scenario you described to try to roll you.

I feel you, but not in this case. The one guy is a medical patient, whom we have to queue in the system before we even let him in, and he is a member with our dispensary, which entails us to grow his legally alloted plant count. And he gets 20% off of everything and 10% off of ounce deals. There are about six cameras on him from outside to the inside of the building. High definition. No way he would or could get away with theft. He is actually a nice guy, we just had a misunderstanding. Thanks for the advice, though. It is a wild business.

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