yeah he’s pretty catchy..

“ALL my ninjas REALLY gang bang!!”

The Warlock said
also, if you know hip hop, then you’d know p. diddy really started to commercialize it in the mid 90’s.. vanilla & hammer were just one-offs’.. so all the legends lucem mentioned are definitely emcees..  

Eh, I don’t know how old you are, but Will smith and Kid and Play were defiantly pioneers in the commercialisation of hip hop long before Bad Boy was even a thing. If you want to go further back then Run DMC, Tone Loc and a few others were saturating the mainstream before MC Hammer and Rob van winkle homie.

King Lucem Ferre said

Yeah, a small piece. Most of the culture just doesn’t give a shit. Unless you’re pretentious enough to say Lil Pump’s fans aren’t part of the culture.  

All those instagram rappers you mentioned are not part of the Hip Hop culture, they are part of the Hip Hop genre’. Hip hop culture is a specific New York thing. And before you get those panties in a bunch, 69, although from NY, does not meet any of the criteria in NY  “Hip Hop Culture”, so he would be placed in the wack-as-fuck Instagram Rap Genre’, that has it’s own culture, and its defiantly not Hip Hop. 

What you know about the culture?

Where the culture originated from is much closer to the Migos than it is to Chino XL.

Iris The Tranny juggalette said

lol you probably shouldn’t use emcee as some glorified term, emcee just means master of cerimonies, my mom at her speech club has been an “emcee” before.  

i didnt create the term..

it’s just the easiest to explain

Everyone knows rap was started as an

conspiracy to sell bouncing cars.

Old Mr Dangerous said
“Rap is something you do

Hip-Hop is something you live”

 

– KRS-ONE  

South Bronx…..South……South Bronx

Or as Lucem seems to hear it,

Siggity Biggity..Siggity Biggity..Skrrrrrt…(Insert random animal noise here)…

krunkazphuk said
Everyone knows rap was started as an

conspiracy to sell bouncing cars.  

Hahaha, lady you went to a 2 Live Crew show, how many bouncing cars you own? I thought those were started by the Hispanics, Mexicans?

King Lucem Ferre said

KRS One didn’t invent hip hop, he’s just some guy who think’s he’s the authority and pretentious elitists like you leach to it because thinking for yourself isn’t possible.

 

If you really want to break down, what about boom bap rappers makes them more hip hop? Don’t just say, “they live it” explain what they do that sets them apart.

 

If you really want to know where hip hop culture comes from, it comes from urban ghetto kids making this new style of music and trying to have fun despite their circumstance while trying to pull themselves out of their slump. A lot of them were gangsters, criminals, thugs, drug dealers and drug addicts.The term ‘Hip Hop’ comes from a derogatory term used by pretentious twats who didn’t consider the movement to be ‘real’ or ‘good’ music. They’d call them hippidy hoppers for the way they danced. The culture was supposed to be all inclusive and didn’t just cover rap, it covered dance, art and DJing.

Look at the new rappers. They too are just a bunch of downtrodden youth trying to have fun and make something out of nothing with a new style while others insult them and tell them they suck and that they aren’t real music. They cover all facets of hip hop culture, including dancing, which most of your legends don’t ever live up to. The silliness and the fun of the music sounds much more like the origins than your overly serious ’emcees’ constantly preaching ‘the truth’ at people.

The moment yall tried to make hip hop so exclusive is really the biggest insult and most blasphemous thing anybodies done to the culture. Reality of it is, what you consider ‘real’ is really just what you personally enjoy. And you refuse to not call them real or say they are not hip hop because you don’t like their music. Which at that point it seems more like you create this elitist attitude as a desperate attempt to feel validated. 

 

This is not to @warlock he gets what I’m saying.

Also, I’d argue against many of them being commercial. Lil Yachty, Migos, Lil Pump, maybe even Uzi Vert, (though Uzi’s recent controversies are the type of shit you’d find in OUR genre). But XXXTeensensation, Lil Peep and Tekashi69 don’t really seem too commercial. For the record, I don’t listen to most of these rappers. I’m just against elitism.

Also, a great way these rappers are pushing the culture forward is by losing this obnoxious focus on underground vs mainstream. Plenty of mainstream artists treat the underground ones with the same respect they treat each other and vice versa.

 

Also, I like rap for it’s flamboyant use of jewelry.

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Cant wait to kill you.

King Lucem Ferre said

The silliness and the fun of the music sounds much more like the origins than your overly serious ’emcees’ constantly preaching ‘the truth’ at people.

That’s why this is awesome. 

Fuck that preaching rap. Had some old buddies who tried that shit, “oh it’s so deep and inspirational and real, listen to the lyrics maaaaan”. No, no, no, I wanna hear about bitches. That’s just my preference though. Some people like seminars in rap form.